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Clague still has a chance the problem is the Kings have too many of the same player...

Walker, Clague, Durzi, and Bjornfot are all the same type of player. Anderson and Roy seem a bit more stay at home, but not overly big either so the team can only have so many 6’ D men playing.
 
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I'd want to give Clague a legit shot at making the team. I don't want to see another Cernak situation. The kings aren't a contender so an extended look won't cost anything.
 
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funky said:
just wondering if Walker is more than a third pairing dman going forward. Would rather fill that top role with a free agent or trade. Poor Doughty hasnt had a proper partner in years which means we are not allowing him to play to his potential. Doughty would once again be dragging Walker around.

Time for Blake to address this issue. Tampa id hurting contract wise and loaded on LD, pay up for Sergachev. He has been groomed properly and is easily capable of 20 mins plus a night on that team so he should be good for that or more on our crappy D team. He is 6'3, 215 lbs and a left shot with good skating and lots of skill. We have the assets to get him, would it hurt, hell yes, but it would be filling a major hole we have had for years. The other positive is he is 22 with #1 Dman potential, as Drew fades he should be picking up the slack. I personally pay heavy for him.

I don't quite there, I address our need for size and physicality back there and sign Edmundson. Guy is a solid 20 minute a night defensive presence that blocks shots, hits, and drops the gloves when needed. He may not be as devastating as MacDermid but he is a more complete player. He is still only 27 and has played on a Stanely Cup winner.

Now I know I will here what about Bjornfot/Clague. Heres the thing, I love the idea of Bjornfot, I love that Drew said a few nice things, but he will never be in the same group as a Sergachev. The offence just isn't there, the size is not there. Can he use another year of seasoning - yes.

We have an expansion draft coming at the end of next year, A guy like MacDermid, or even Edmundson would be loved in Seattle. We may lose one opening up a spot for Bjornfot. Plus I would imagine one of Bjornfot or Clague may be included to land Sergachev.

Sergachev - Doughty
Anderson - Roy
Edmundson - Walker
MacDermid


Draft Byfield, sign Edmundson, trade for Sergachev, let team bond, watch season and see how kids progress, lose vet to expansion draft, see where we draft, re-asses
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I love Sergachev and he would be a game changer. While Tampa is going to have to make some big changes to get all their guys signed they know what he’s worth. But still maybe we can get there because we have legit players that are cheap which is what they need badly. Killorn and Johnson are really good maybe it’s a bigger deal to include one of them? Gotta get something that can be on a win now team - no futures deal. But I think that’s where we can make a big move.

Walker + Kempe + 2nd for Sergachev + Killorn (or Johnson)?
 
I think a trade for Sergachev is at least one year too early. I'd want to see if any of Clague, Björnfot, Andersen can secure a top 4 role. We have the time to find out. If any do, it saves the asset trade cost and the cap that Sergachev would surely demand.
 
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I think a trade for Sergachev is at least one year too early. I'd want to see if any of Clague, Björnfot, Andersen can secure a top 4 role. We have the time to find out. If any do, it saves the asset trade cost and the cap that Sergachev would surely demand.
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I would agree that trading for an older player is a year early but Sergachev is the same age as Clague 3 years younger than Walker and only a couple years older than Anderson who is a Defensive Dman and Bjornfot does not have the offensive ability.

we have no one like Sergachev in our system. We have no top pairing Dman in our system.

Sergachev has 3 full years of hockey at the NHL level while Clague has 4 games and has no idea what to do in his own zone.

you don’t hold up aquiring a stud like Sergachev in hopes that 1 of your prospects roughly the same age might be good enough to try and grab a spot. It’s like saying let’s trade Kopitar because Carter might have the ability to fill his role. He might get by but he would not be a true number 1 center and he would pull down his wingers. Why keep with the mindset of keeping Drew paired with guys he can has to support.
 
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Ziggy Stardust said:
Ryan Murray and Jonas Brodin will be UFAs next summer, among countless others who fit into the top 3-4 category.
Browse - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps
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this is one spot I am not to worried about. When we look at Bjornfot, Anderson and Roy one would think 2 of these 3 should be able to emerge into solid 2nd pair defenders for years to come. I do t see them as #1’s or #2’s but I see them all being solid #4’s and I think there is upside in at least 1 of the 3 being a solid #3 or at least adequate with potential for growth 1 year from now. If not both guys you listed would look great if the price is right.
 
funky said:
this is one spot I am not to worried about. When we look at Bjornfot, Anderson and Roy one would think 2 of these 3 should be able to emerge into solid 2nd pair defenders for years to come. I do t see them as #1’s or #2’s but I see them all being solid #4’s and I think there is upside in at least 1 of the 3 being a solid #3 or at least adequate with potential for growth 1 year from now. If not both guys you listed would look great if the price is right.
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Why such A low bar for Björnfot?

Kid looked silky smooth in the few games in preseason and early season.

The projection on him was a Vlasic / McDonough type player and they are plenty good as top-pairing D.

When you look at our cup runs, Scuds and Mitchell were plenty good on Doughty’s flank to lift it twice.

Kid did fine first year pro in the A. Give him some room to grow.
 
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Token said:
Why such A low bar for Björnfot?

Kid looked silky smooth in the few games in preseason and early season.

The projection on him was a Vlasic / McDonough type player and they are plenty good as top-pairing D.

When you look at our cup runs, Scuds and Mitchell were plenty good on Doughty’s flank to lift it twice.

Kid did fine first year pro in the A. Give him some room to grow.
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Nothing against Bjornfot at all. Just have never saw a huge offensive side to him. He did awesome as a first year pro and I think he will end up being a perfect #3. I just think Tampa’s young star has higher upside, is ready and will provide a lot more offense. I see Sergachev growing into the PP threat as he grows older and see DD being more of that steady stay at home Vlasic type with way more offensive awareness and ability to move the puck. Dres never been good on the PP compared to the upper echelon of offensive Dman but the guy is a rock in his own end and can move the puck out seemlessly.

Don’t get me wrong, live Bjornfot, love the pick, just think Sergachev has the skills to transition into our #1 as Doughty slows in a few years. Don’t see that upside in Bjornfot.
 
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Stimpythecat said:
That 1st round pick on an offer sheet could be a very good pick. That is what concerns me.
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I would be worried about it too but he'd be worth it. Better than anyone we could pick with that 1st. If LA couldn't trade for him; I'd offer sheet him for 5 years @ 8m per. Lose a 1st, 2nd and 3rd. But we'd still have the St. Louis 2nd and the Toronto pick that could be a 2nd or 3rd. The price wouldn't be that bad.
 
Johnny Utah said:
How much do you think Sergachev will sign for? TB has no space.
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This is a very good question. We’re talking about a 20 to-year-old defenseman with Pedegree that has been in the league for three years, getting better every year as expected and can provide offense. He may not be in the same offensive league as the new shiny boys being Hughes, my car, etc. but he brings a very solid all around game and has some size to him.
I would actually be against the offer sheet as we know what has happened in the past when we get into a habit of treating off our first round picks. We have a stable of prospects and picks as well as roster players at this point that may help Tampa Bay. We have the ability to take circuits of as well as one other other ugly contracts that would not look so ugly on our team such as Kilorn. I’m sure the two teams could work out something that would be beneficial for both.

I would have absolutely no problem signing the kid to an eight year $6.5 million contract. Bit of a gamble on both ends. I would also take a bridge deal at three years if that’s the way he wants to do it as he would still be RFA at the end.
 
Johnny Utah said:
How much do you think Sergachev will sign for? TB has no space.
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I figure Tampa can open up some cap space by dealing Ondrej Palat and Tyler Johnson (10.3 mil cap hit combined). Both have slightly frontloaded deals, so that might be more palatable to some clubs who care more about the salary than the cap hit. But even then, new deals for Cirelli, Sergachev, and Cernak will be a little tricky.

Killorn-Point-Kucherov
(TBD)-Stamkos-Gourde
Coleman-Cirelli-(TBD)
Goodrow-Paquette-(Stephens/Joseph/Verhaeghe)

Hedman-Cernak
McDonagh-Sergachev
Coburn-(Foote/TBD)

Vasilevskiy-McElhinney

That roster clocks in at about 69 million leaving around 12 million to sign Sergachev, Cirelli, Cernak, and a couple middle six forwards. I'd be curious if Sergachev/Cirelli would be open to bridge deals that walk them closer to UFA but counts less against the cap (ie, Zack Werenski and Brayden Point). If Tampa makes a deep run, I would imagine there'd be some desire to stick around.
 
Supposedly Edmonton might move one of their dmen (perhaps to make room for an offer to Pietrangelo?).

Klefbom or Nurse would be a decent upgrade on the blueline.
 
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