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Speculation: 2020-21 News/Rumors/Roster Thread Part IV

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KINGS17 said:
You keep wanting to go back to the end of 2014 in every one of these conversations. Was his contract up at the end of 2014? No, it was up at the end of the 2016 season.
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Because you keep thinking someone would trade their UFA #1C when the team is leading the division and 4th overall in the league on the day the #1C signs a new contract. I'm just trying to find some time to trade him, and there is none. If the Kings had been bottom 10 in 15-16, then at least there's a possible theory. Ownership would likely fire you if you tried trading the #1C when the team is 1st in the division and 4th overall. They'd probably tell you to let things play out and have him walk as a UFA, instead of essentially tanking when you're not even the worst team in the league already. Great, now they have $10m to spend on crappy free agents.

If nothing else, the whole team should've been traded in June 2012, Florida Marlins style. That was peak Kings. 2014 was on a knife's edge every series. That could've easily fallen apart at any time. After 2012 though? At the very least Quick and Brown needed to go, because they've never been anywhere close to as good since.
 
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The Lukeman said:
Just saying, but the NBCSN broadcast kinda pointed out that the only defenseman other than doughty to score a goal this year is Kurtis MacDermid. Anderson and Bjornfot are not going to bring the offense of a 1LD. (I will continue to scream dahlin until its made clear he is unavailable or he resigns with Buffalo).

We have 2 C spots available in the top 6 for Kopitar, Byfield, Vilardi, Turcotte, JAD, etc. Kopitar is taking 1. We have 1 LD spot available with 0 defensemen who can fit the bill, but we have a massive surplus of top 4 defensemen. We should expect "the big trade" sometime this summer, for these 2 positions.

There are 0 UFA's who can fill 1LD this summer.
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I think you make a good point. However, if I'm Buffalo the negotiation starts and ends with Byfield. Turcotte or Vilardi would be a no go. Idk how Kings fans would feel about that.
 
Reaper45 said:
Byfield, Bjornfot Iafallo and a 1st for Eichel and Dahlin.
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I mean... I'm in. No way Buffalo would go for that though. Not even close. But...

Turcotte - Kopitar - Kaliyev
Kempe - Eichel - Vilardi
Fagemo - Kupari - Madden
Grundstrom - Anderson-Dolan - Thomas

Dahlin - Doughty
Anderson - Roy
Clague - Strand

Petersen
Quick

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No on Eichel until we see how he recovers from that neck injury that involves his spine. That concerns me as it can be extremely serious. It's not an area of the body I want to hear about being injured. That means watching how he plays in games in 2021-22. Waiting also buys us time to see what we have in the prospects and what holes need to be filled. One of Byfield, turcotte, or vilardi might make a leap in development.

Eichel's NMC doesn't kick in until after next season anyway.
 
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KINGS17 said:
It's not about the money. It was about kick starting the rebuild.
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a rebuild is nothing if you throw a bunch of prospects on an ice sheet to get fed to the wolves.

In may have taken Blake a few extra years but he has assembled the best prospect pool in the league and has solid mentors at the NHL level to guide them into the NHL when they are actually ready as well as to take the most difficult ice times to shield the youth.

not every prospect will make it, but we might as well give them every feasible opportunity to be lead by some of the best. Coaches can only do so much, and they can’t do it out on the ice. Poor Vilardi who I love would have a 35% face off winning percentage if it wasn’t for Kopitar taking all the nasty face offs. Our tools would be -30.

Blake is doing it the right way. We also have numerous extra picks this upcoming draft.

we have the best of both worlds in a rebuild situation.
 
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Reaper45 said:
Byfield, Bjornfot Iafallo and a 1st for Eichel and Dahlin.
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You'll have to keep adding.

AnThGrt said:
For which one is that an offer as it sure as hell does not land both. That is realistically closer to what potentially lands a single one of those.
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I don't know what Iafallo does for the Sabres. Even if they re-signed him, if we know he can't carry even a 2nd line, despite how bad Buffalo is, you have to assume they know that too.

Byfield, Bjornfot, 1st, and at least one more top prospect. Probably Turcotte, because we're talking about 2 former top 2 picks who have been playing NHL hockey. Maybe Kaliyev and someone else instead of Turcotte, maybe, but unlikely.

Both Eichel and Dahlin would have to be an empty the cupboard type deal. Those 2 are just too young.
 
Raccoon Jesus said:


With the limited crowd noise you can CONSTANTLY hear Drew talking everyone up and it's awesome.

I know I'm not the only one that hears him going ballistic when rookies block shots :laugh:
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I got a chuckle when Pierre mentioned that everyone was cheering on the bench after Grundstrom blocked a shot in the 3rd. They've taken Todd's house plant quote to heart.
 
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All The Kings Men said:
I'm inclined to believe Bjornfot/Walker/Roy would have more offense if the bottom 9 forward group had more cohesion and consistency.

Also... Mikey Anderson can play with Drew Doughty forever as far as I'm concerned.
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Sometimes it feels like the only offensive chances the bottom 9 produces are occasional breakaways by Athanasiou/Wagner/Kempe.

Part of it is the system the Kings are running. But I think the Kings biggest deficiency is at Center.

Vilardi's skating is an issue. He's always trailing the play. His puck moves that worked in junior aren't working in the NHL. Lizzotte is obviously limited. And Amadio is not an NHLer.

Kopitar's 5v5 production rate is about as bad as it's ever been. They need to change his deployment.

This center group as a collective is very slow.
 
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I don't see the Kings trading Byfield for multiple reasons. Marketing him is one of those reasons. He is the highest African-American draft pick in NHL history. Just look at the positive publicity they got for the pick. Of course he is ultra talented but in a diverse city, he fits well. The NHL probably doesn't want him buried in Buffalo. They want him starring in a major media market.
 
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AzKing said:
I don't see the Kings trading Byfield for multiple reasons. Marketing him is one of those reasons. He is the highest African-American draft pick in NHL history. Just look at the positive publicity they got for the pick. Of course he is ultra talented but in a diverse city, he fits well. The NHL probably doesn't want him buried in Buffalo. They want him starring in a major media market.
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not that I'm endorsing the trading of Byfield ... but you think it's about 'positive publicity'? I can tell you there is more concern over putting butts in the seats as opposed to positive publicity...you know what sells tickets? Good teams who win games.
 
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Stimpythecat said:
No on Eichel until we see how he recovers from that neck injury that involves his spine. That concerns me as it can be extremely serious. It's not an area of the body I want to hear about being injured. That means watching how he plays in games in 2021-22. Waiting also buys us time to see what we have in the prospects and what holes need to be filled. One of Byfield, turcotte, or vilardi might make a leap in development.

Eichel's NMC doesn't kick in until after next season anyway.
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That's reasonable
 
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