Speculation: 2020-21 LA Kings News/Rumors/Roster Discussion Part II

[SFKingshomer]

Reilly would be a great target for LA.

If he’s willing to sign a fair extension then I’d easily trade Kempe and #8.

 

[SFKingshomer]

Speaking of buyouts,player once known as Mike Richards is still getting paid...

We should trade him for Datsuuk, Hossa, Pronger, etc. How about Bobby Bonilla?

 

[kilowatt]

Not with 1 year left.

If he’s willing to sign a fair extension then I’d easily trade Kempe and #8.

Agreed, I'd only do it if he agreed to an extension. I'd prefer to not trade the 8th pick though, and I wonder if Toronto wouldn't want something to help them win now anyway. I still think Kempe and Walker is a good trade for Toronto, seeing as both those guys combined make less than Reilly does right now, not to mention what his extension will look like.

 

[Mats26]

If it takes Byfield forever to become a top 6 F, not even a top line guy, then why did they bother drafting him #2? If he's not a known quantity by 20, then might as well trade him for Eichel now.

I think the timeline fits with Kopitar. A few years while Kopi is still #1 and QB takes a lessor role. I don't see an issue with it. Just hope they don't botch his development, which is another story. At 20/21 I agree though, he should be showing signs of slowly taking over. But who knows right?, maybe he pots 50 pts next year and takes over the 2C.

 

[Mats26]

So, when teams use experienced NHLers, it's a joke, but when they think outside the box to grab qualified individuals that weren't NHLers, it's also a joke.

Maybe you should prepare your application, sounds like you're the professional here.

Gave him 15 years and currently only have Kempe as his "fully developed forward", I think Maggie the monkey could do a better job.

He is no where near the level of a Ranford and Yanetti at their positions.

 

[AzKing]

I'd do this in a second. Jones would definitely re-sign.

Jones is a good player but it would make no sense for the Kings to trade all of those guys and a #1 for him.

It's hard to see why Jones would re-sign with a team that's undergoing this type of transition. He is 27 in October and will have the opportunity to go pretty much anywhere he wants after his contract ends. What would make LA more attractive than the list of playoff teams that would want him unless they significantly overpay him?

 

[unicornpig]

Did anybody see the Athletic article about Seth Jones written by Pronman and Portzline? It goes over potential costs for Jones and if that’s all it’d cost I’d hope Blake would pull the trigger.

Kempe
Thomas
Bjornfot
2022 1st lottery protected

Jones for none of Byfield, Turcotte, Vilardi, Kaliyev? Heck yes.

wouldn't do that even if jones was signed.

 

[SFKingshomer]

Did anybody see the Athletic article about Seth Jones written by Pronman and Portzline? It goes over potential costs for Jones and if that’s all it’d cost I’d hope Blake would pull the trigger.

Kempe
Thomas
Bjornfot
2022 1st lottery protected

Jones for none of Byfield, Turcotte, Vilardi, Kaliyev? Heck yes.

Bjornfot is the deal breaker for me

 

[kings11]

Bjornfot is the deal breaker for me

I’d do that package for a signed Werenski but not Jones

 

[SFKingshomer]

I’d do that package for a signed Werenski but not Jones

Jones is a better defender but Werenski is more of a need. I’d probably do it but I hate trading Bjornfot. I think they will go with a smaller deal like Ghost.

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

Couldn't care less who he played for. And I said the qualifications.

Needs to be more adaptable to a younger faster league. New vision on how the game is played today. Master in sports psychology would help in development players coming from overseas adapting to new culture.

What vision does he have when he says Zegras and the rest of the US team don’t play the “right way” like Turcotte does. This is 2008 vision. Drafting offensive talent and bring out the defensive side in a player sometimes pays bigger dividends. Unless he is just a puppet for what the GM wants.

IMO he hasn't develop a top 6 players in decade. (Toffoli being the only one). I hope Wrobo fixes that trend.

So Toffoli, Pearson, Iafallo, weren't developed? Kempe...not developed? Tell me..what players do you think wasted away?

 

[Bandit]

So Toffoli, Pearson, Iafallo, weren't developed? Kempe...not developed? Tell me..what players do you think wasted away?

That’s a pathetic list of “top” talent.

 

[King'sPawn]

So Toffoli, Pearson, Iafallo, weren't developed? Kempe...not developed? Tell me..what players do you think wasted away?

Iafallo developed in the NCAA. He was NHL ready without the Kings taking part or moving the needle.

If Toffolli, Pearson, Kempe is the list of top-6 forwards developed in the last decade by the Kings, then the development staff isn't equipped to develop the prospects. By not being equipped, I mean they lack the:
- qualifications
- prospects
- tools
- direction

To develop what's been given.

I'm unsure if Byfield, Turcotte, etc will get close to their potential if the state of things remain as is. Will they be RUINED? No. Is Byfield going to develop into the high-end center he's projected to become? They have 3 proven NHLers out of 36 forwards taken between 2010-2019 (I omitted Kubalik since he came over one season but then went back to develop in Europe on his own). So, 8.3% "success" rate.

 

[SFKingshomer]

That’s a pathetic list of “top” talent.

That happens when you trade draft picks away.

 

[kings11]

Jones is a better defender but Werenski is more of a need. I’d probably do it but I hate trading Bjornfot. I think they will go with a smaller deal like Ghost.

Of we go Ghost, I’d try to get JVR… he has 2 years left at a decent cap hit and is still tough and can score

 

[Bandit]

That happens when you trade draft picks away.

It’s also what happens when you have a no talent assclown in charge of trying to make kids talented non-assclowns.

 

[Legionnaire]

Jones is a good player but it would make no sense for the Kings to trade all of those guys and a #1 for him.

It's hard to see why Jones would re-sign with a team that's undergoing this type of transition. He is 27 in October and will have the opportunity to go pretty much anywhere he wants after his contract ends. What would make LA more attractive than the list of playoff teams that would want him unless they significantly overpay him?

It is really not that much.

Kempe is good but a tweener. Ideally he'd be on the 3rd line on a good team.

Bjornfoot looks to be a middle pairing guy.

Thomas played well enough in Ontario but projects more as a bottom six.

1st lottery protected. It's supposed to be a good draft. It is lottery protected if things go south...

...if it does, there is always the possibility of flipping him at the trade deadline. That would probably recoup our draft pick and more.


Los Angeles. Hollywood. The beach. Famous, but not too famous. The beautiful women (He is single)

 

[No Name The Nameless]

If he’s willing to sign a fair extension then I’d easily trade Kempe and #8.

That still seems high for a GOOD defenseman.

 

[Mats26]

So Toffoli, Pearson, Iafallo, weren't developed? Kempe...not developed? Tell me..what players do you think wasted away?

Start by drafting and developing your own players. Iaffalo wasn't drafted nor developed by the Kings development staff. I already mentioned Toffoli as the only one in the past, Kempe is the only current one. Not bad for over a decade of work right.

Not sure what you see in Nelson that gives you this much confidence to hand over the treasure trove of fowards and expect them to be deference makers in the top 6. Like I said Wrobo was hired for a reason and we are lucky he seems to be getting some offence out of some of them. Hope it continues and translates to the NHL level.

Remember not too long ago when we hired Pierre Turgeon as a "offensive coordinator" for us to add offense? Something is broken in the development of top end forwards, and if the director of player development isn't responsible then who is?

 

[Bandit]

Start by drafting and developing your own players. Iaffalo wasn't drafted nor developed by the Kings development staff. I already mentioned Toffoli as the only one in the past, Kempe is the only current one. Not bad for over a decade of work right.

Not sure what you see in Nelson that gives you this much confidence to hand over the treasure trove of fowards and expect them to be deference makers in the top 6. Like I said Wrobo was hired for a reason and we are lucky he seems to be getting some offence out of some of them. Hope it continues and translates to the NHL level.

Remember not too long ago when we hired Pierre Turgeon as a "offensive coordinator" for us to add offense? Something is broken in the development of top end forwards, and if the director of player development isn't responsible then who is?

I must be out of the loop, who is Wrobo?

 

[Mats26]

I must be out of the loop, who is Wrobo?

Sorry... John Wroblewski, Ontario Reign coach.

 

[BigKing]

I must be out of the loop, who is Wrobo?

Ontario HC

 

[FSL KINGS]

Kings Of The Podcast: Episode 99 with Viktor Arvidsson

Arvidsson interview.

 

[BigKing]

Jones is a good player but it would make no sense for the Kings to trade all of those guys and a #1 for him.

It's hard to see why Jones would re-sign with a team that's undergoing this type of transition. He is 27 in October and will have the opportunity to go pretty much anywhere he wants after his contract ends. What would make LA more attractive than the list of playoff teams that would want him unless they significantly overpay him?

He'd be more into it if he could just come here as a UFA and the Kings could keep all of those assets or flip those assets for other proven talent.

This team, however, would be a lot better if you had one of Doughty/Jones on the ice at pretty much all times.

That proposed trade is an easy yes for me...if you knew he was going to sign here. Bjornfot hurts but you keep all of the top forward prospects. You take a LHD at 8OA this year and then hope for development from Grans/Faber/Spence/Nousainen etc. You've also got Seth Jones eating minutes on the big club now.

 

[Steve Zissou]

I'm still wondering why Arizona wants to get rid of Garland... Him, Keller, and Chychrun are easily their top 3 players.