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Speculation: 2020-21 LA Kings News/Roster/Rumors Discussion Part VI
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health i agree on....it's amazing how a change of scenery can change attitude
Oh that one! That's this morning I think, both Blake and McClellan. There will probably be something on either the website or insider later.
It will be interesting to see if there is anything of substance or just the learning/stay the course/part of the process spiel. I'm sure we will all get riled up either way.
thought of him in LA today. God I hope not.
he is so scared of getting hit and he does not preform in the playoffs, mostly because of the physicality
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I get it. Or you can hold on to Hickey forever and lose him for nothing and still win two Cups haha.
I think we were all surprised by O'Sullivan and Quincey being moved though with the latter being for a guy in Smyth that was not a long term solution.
If there is one thing that Blake and Co. need to be laser focused on is getting the right read on these prospects. Lord know the NHL roster has been trash so I hope they are using all of their energy on determining who will meet and who will fall short of expectations. We can say it is "too early" but it shouldn't be too early for anyone drafted in 2017 or '18 and you could argue that it isn't necessarily too early for 2019 either. They could be wrong but they should have a better idea than any team trading for one of these prospects.
There is risk involved, of course, and I understand the argument that it is too soon to do so.
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Stuff is coming out from T-Mac and Blake. Big takeaways for me:
Blake:
- "We agree with Drew and his frustration"
- He thinks they are ahead of identifying where the holes are. Hopefully that ties in to my post above about knowing what you have/don't have.
- Madden was a broken collar bone and not a head injury. That's much better than a gnarly concussion. Unpopular opinion but I thought it was a clean hit and Madden needs to keep his head up. This also underscores that Madden's size could be an issue if he doesn't watch it out there: getting smacked like this is a good way to learn a lesson.
Blake:
- "We agree with Drew and his frustration"
- He thinks they are ahead of identifying where the holes are. Hopefully that ties in to my post above about knowing what you have/don't have.
- Madden was a broken collar bone and not a head injury. That's much better than a gnarly concussion. Unpopular opinion but I thought it was a clean hit and Madden needs to keep his head up. This also underscores that Madden's size could be an issue if he doesn't watch it out there: getting smacked like this is a good way to learn a lesson.
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They agree with Drew, damn! There goes trading him this offseason for Seth Jones and McJesus.
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I wouldn't say they're untouchable, but I'm also a little hesitant to move them for a 25 year old (when the season starts) malcontent who is investigating a never-before-seen-in-the-nhl-surgery. Fair?
I know that's a harsh characterization of Eichel but there are certainly risky question marks surrounding him that are debatably worth it.
This. it reminds me of the various NYR/LAK trade threads. They have D men, we have Centers. It's a match made in heaven--once each org figures out what they have. Imagine trading Turcotte for Lundqvist and the latter busts--now we have two holes instead of one.
WRT Eichel, it's pointless to empty the cupboards to create other holes, or to bring in a guy that may just be Jeff Carter 2.0 with no wingers left since we traded them all to acquire him.
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that's an unimpressive comment from tmac but it may just be because it's out of context?.. guess it's not really his place to make the roster though.
guess that's a commitment by blake to make moves though, this better be a big offseason. another maatta type addition would be an abject failure if that's the position he's taking
guess that's a commitment by blake to make moves though, this better be a big offseason. another maatta type addition would be an abject failure if that's the position he's taking
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That said, the end of 2021-22 season should see the Kings in the playoffs. If not, the Kings should reconsider their direction with management.
BigKing
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It's always felt that he's following DL's timeline which was Year 4 = playoffs. He's not some super imaginative, groundbreaking GM and I'm pretty sure that they've already said drafting 2OA somewhat accelerated the timeline anyways. He says today that they aren't going to rush anyone but they are banking on Byfield being at least a 40 point guy next season at minimum. 40 doesn't seem like a lot but it is more than what Carter has been giving in that 2C role. They might be banking on more than that if he has a winger to play with.
Anyways, Blake said more than once today that they've put themselves in a good position to add. That falls in line with those saying that you can make moves with prospects for established talent and still have a good number of solid prospects still in the pipeline afterwards. Blake was never going to purposely suck for five years of Kopitar and Doughty.
It's an argument that we'll be having for years with the postmortem but I'm pretty sure that the plan is to compete for a Cup with both 11 and 8 still in tow. Doesn't mean a nuclear bomb is being dropped on the pipeline but it does mean that we might not want to get too attached to any prospect not named Byfield.
Anyways, Blake said more than once today that they've put themselves in a good position to add. That falls in line with those saying that you can make moves with prospects for established talent and still have a good number of solid prospects still in the pipeline afterwards. Blake was never going to purposely suck for five years of Kopitar and Doughty.
It's an argument that we'll be having for years with the postmortem but I'm pretty sure that the plan is to compete for a Cup with both 11 and 8 still in tow. Doesn't mean a nuclear bomb is being dropped on the pipeline but it does mean that we might not want to get too attached to any prospect not named Byfield.
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Lol and there's people who are actually against firing him. TMac keeps proving himself to be inept. The length of his leash is hilarious.
And so essentially, Blake is gonna be likely taking part of the Eichel sweepstakes. Not like he really has a choice. He's not gonna get rid of the core players right now so he has to keep them happy. Too much disparity between Kopitar and Doughty vs the Kids. Them old players and young players need a stop gap superstar to give them hope.
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One of my biggest disappointments this season after they were a good possession team last season. Personnel changed of course, but you can't roll out unbalanced lines that had no chance of sustaining a forecheck and a punching bag like MacDermid for as many games as he did and expect success.
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That's kind of the funny part of all this. There were people expecting the roles of players like Doughty and Kopitar to be reduced to baby sitters to guide the young players... You don't keep players like Kopitar and Doughty and make their role on the team so pathetic. You either help establish a team for them during the rebuild so they can have a chance to be competitive during their time as a king, or you trade them for some prospects. Then bring in some cheap veterans to guide the younger players. You don't retain such productive players and set them up for failure by not giving them a proper team.
If Blake isn't going to trade Doughty and Kopitar, when they tell Blake to jump, he can only ask how high.
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If they can get 30~40 points from Byfield, and 40~50 points from Vilardi, probably 2C & 3C at this point, that wouldn't be half bad. Actually, that would be pretty good production down the middle
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Bro I'm seriously worried the Kings are going to suck again next year because of TMac. The stuff he says and the system he propagates are so inefficient. That statement is so ridiculously telling. God.
It'd cost a pretty penny that's for sure. But if Blake intends to hold on to Kopitar and Doughty, then he has to make them happy. He doesn't really have a choice. However, I think Eichel is a safe acquisition because anyone who watches him play knows he's a special player. That will make Kopitar and Doughty happy. Not much guess work goes since he's an established player as well. Costly? yes. Surety? yes. That's what you're paying for.
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But can they take ice time away from Kopitar?
This team isn't going to do diddly poo with our 34 year old center playing 22 minutes a night carrying all the hard minutes.
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