Speculation: 2020-21 LA Kings News/Roster/Rumors Discussion Part VI

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Hello everybody! Been lurking for a bit.

Feel pretty optimistic about next year. This year got derailed by an internal cap last summer due to events outside of hockey that limited the teams ability to make moves. Shouldn't be difficult at all to add an upgrade or 2 on defense & forward to help with depth & leave the team in a position to pounce on an Eichel, Laine, Couturier type if they become available.
 
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As soon as the media starts caring about hockey here. Plus, there is zero pressure on them to do so. I mean, who do they have to address or answer to other than a few thousand hardcore fans?

I don’t disagree but I thought there was a scheduled press conference to address the exit interviews/how the season went etc.

They said early this week but wonder if it’s been scraped.
 
Hello everybody! Been lurking for a bit.

Feel pretty optimistic about next year. This year got derailed by an internal cap last summer due to events outside of hockey that limited the teams ability to make moves. Shouldn't be difficult at all to add an upgrade or 2 on defense & forward to help with depth & leave the team in a position to pounce on an Eichel, Laine, Couturier type if they become available.

I think this fact has been ignored on this board but you bring up a good point. If revenue projections for AEG are ticking upwards for next year I expect a bit more salary on the roster. I mean they paid TMac 5 million x 5 PreCovid I expect them to invest in players now.
 
I think this fact has been ignored on this board but you bring up a good point. If revenue projections for AEG are ticking upwards for next year I expect a bit more salary on the roster. I mean they paid TMac 5 million x 5 PreCovid I expect them to invest in players now.

They could. But hopefully they don't just spend to spend, they are already above the salary floor, so unless it's 1 year deals, no reason to add for the sake of adding.
 
I'm actually encouraged that there were many positives this year:

1. Byfield and Kaliyev got to play in the AHL and get Pro experience, play against men, learn the system. Perform well. This puts their development
to the point of making the Kings this coming season. If they had played in the OHL, they would not be ready. Are they ready to make the Kings? I think
with a good Summer and camp, yes. Would they have been ready with a season in the OHL? More likely, no.
2. Mikey Anderson and Tobias Bjornfot became capable NHL defensemen. They both will be even better next year. Anderson said in exit
interview, he will add muscle and work on offensive game. He's also an emerging leader. Bjornfot is scratching the surface and will get better.
3. Signing Iafallo and Roy to good contracts IS HUGE. Needed to lock up them up.
4. Lias Andersson was looking MEH at the start of the year...then got his game back in the AHL and had 17 pts in 15 games there and came
back to the Kings and had great chemistry with Vilardi. He has vision, skills, can finish too. Improved his skating since the Rangers days. He will be even better next year. 15G / 20A / 35 pts yr possible.
He will be solid, going forward. Still only 22. Can play 3rd line and enough skill to move up, if needed. Great trade.
5. All of these players got a very valuable year of Pro hockey: (Byfield and Kaliyev, as already mentioned) Kupari, Turcotte, Thomas,
Fagemo, Dudas, Moverare (great to have him back in North America) and Madden; although injured.
6. Brock Faber was stellar and looked as good or better than #5 overall Sanderson at the WJC. He had a monster year and
will only get better. If the draft was redone, he would possibly go in the teens. Great future and leader. His offense will pick up.
Had a 5 assist game, I believe in the NCAA tournament. This kid is going to be awesome.
7. The Kings have tons of cap room and tons of assets in prospects and picks. Of course, it's up to Blake to manage that and
make some deals, but that is possible, due to the high number of quality assets, cap room and a flat cap - can take advantage
of other teams' problems. Instead of going after a 10 million, injured Eichel, find next tier type of player that needs a change.
Kind of like a David Perron, that was in Edmonton, Pittsburgh, the Ducks, Vegas, back to Blues....and is now pretty much a force. Or a Burakovsky...the AVS got him for a second round pick and he's been awesome for them. WHERE / WHO are these types, the Kings could target?
There must be some players that are like him, that will benefit from a change.
8. I'm going to list Kupari too. He was all but forgotten, after a MEH start in Ontario (tried to play euro style and not use teammates)
and the terrible knee injury setback....came back strong, bigger, and his skating was as good or better! He has the tools, skating
and ability to be a great player. You can see it. A year ago, you could not count on him to even be decent in the AHL and you're
now looking at a top level prospect, ready NOW to step in and be a good NHL player. Look for him to surprise even more, this coming season. He can really shoot the puck, too.

Be encouraged. There is a light at the end of the tunnel and it's not an oncoming train!
 
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They could. But hopefully they don't just spend to spend, they are already above the salary floor, so unless it's 1 year deals, no reason to add for the sake of adding.

We need to resign some of the RFAs, so AEG has no choice but to add salary unless we trade their rights away. If we keep the same exact roster as this year, it will be more expensive. So the debate should be where do we add this salary on current RFAs or new players???
 
I'd like to see them go after Reinhart and a defenseman. I bet McDonagh could be had cheap for a top pairing guy. Yes he's not great offensively but he has a good 1st pass and can still skate. His term is a little long but he would get a similar contract if he were UFA.
 
I'd like to see them go after Reinhart and a defenseman. I bet McDonagh could be had cheap for a top pairing guy. Yes he's not great offensively but he has a good 1st pass and can still skate. His term is a little long but he would get a similar contract if he were UFA.

McDonagh has a full NTC.
 
Prospect worship and adoration has always been a thing on this board (and not just the Kings forum). Even with some of the all-time biggest flops people were still overly optimistic to the very end. Colten Teubert went from being the next Scott Stevens, to being the next Adam Foote to being the next Matt Greene to being the next Doug Zmolek to being the next Mark Visheau, anyone who questioned why he was in the ECHL 2 years after being a 1st round while the two guys picked directly after him were starring in the NHL was labeled a "hater", told that the other teams were "ruining the development" and to "wait 4-5 years before we judge who's better". There was a post last week where someone said that 7 prospects were "Completely off limits" ...SEVEN!! It will be funny when 2 of them inevitably bust or disappoint to look back and think that someone wouldn't have traded them for Jack Eichel when they had the chance.

If HFBoards were around in 1988 some people here would have been furious that the Kings traded Jimmy Carson and Martin Gelinas.

I agree prospect worship is a thing, but I think you are misconstruing some statements to fit a narrative.

Three of those untouchable prospects were NHL ready players: Byfield, Björnfot, Anderson. Culture and skill for an organization who NEEDS a young set of players to step up.

Which is why bland also listed those other players for now, including Turcotte.

The BIGGER reason not to trade the players is because we're cognizant that players bust, not the other way around. The prospects need a proper set of time for them to grow into a role so we can identify players who don't fit anymore. Otherwise, you get a Cernak-for-Bishop deal while keeping Amadio.

Prospects who COULD be core players, for an org with an aging core, are very valuable and it's unwise to trade them away too soon. Once they have identified the players worth keeping is when it's wiser to trade.
 
I don't think Blake has even had time to "hoard" prospects since it's so early into the rebuild. Hopefully they have a better idea of their value at this point or we could totally screw the long term for a quick fix to make Doughty happy.
 
He'd be taking at least a $900k annual pay reduction to move from Florida to California for the privilege of moving from a SC favorite to a team with no identity. I think he'd pass but that's just my opinion.


It's possible he passes but it's worth a shot because he won't cost much in assets and is an upgrade. I think he's more likely than Sergachev, Werenski, or any other of these pipe dream scenarios.
 
I agree prospect worship is a thing, but I think you are misconstruing some statements to fit a narrative.

Three of those untouchable prospects were NHL ready players: Byfield, Björnfot, Anderson. Culture and skill for an organization who NEEDS a young set of players to step up.

Which is why bland also listed those other players for now, including Turcotte.

The BIGGER reason not to trade the players is because we're cognizant that players bust, not the other way around. The prospects need a proper set of time for them to grow into a role so we can identify players who don't fit anymore. Otherwise, you get a Cernak-for-Bishop deal while keeping Amadio.

Prospects who COULD be core players, for an org with an aging core, are very valuable and it's unwise to trade them away too soon. Once they have identified the players worth keeping is when it's wiser to trade.

The flip side is that waiting for the prospect to show if he's got it or not can lead to him not being worth as much when it is time to trade him since he's shown that he doesn't have it. Or he gets hurt etc...

Just playing devil's advocate.

If the Kings position in the standings hold and they are drafting 8th or 9th, I think that is the one quality asset that most people can be on board with as a trade chip. From last year's draft, Byfield and Faber are the only ones I'd like to keep off the table. From 2019, Kaliyev is my top guy. Not that I don't like Turcotte but I'd be okay with him being used for big game hunting. I'd listen on Bjornfot as well.
 
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He'd be taking at least a $900k annual pay reduction to move from Florida to California for the privilege of moving from a SC favorite to a team with no identity. I think he'd pass but that's just my opinion.

Agreed. The only way he is not in Tampa next year is if somehow the Lightning can convince Seattle to take him in the expansion draft by dangling some premium assets. I don't think I would want to touch that contract, the term is a bit much (5 years left on the deal at the conclusion of this season).
 
This is where I'm at, Byfield is the only untouchable in the entire organization. Listing off a laundry list of prospects that are untouchable for a player the caliber of Jack Eichel is quite frankly embarrassing

I don't know, I feel I'd like to add Kaliyev to that list. We bitch and moan about scoring all day long, when was the last time the Kings drafted a pure goal scorer? Kaliyev might be the closest thing....I'd hang on to him too.
 
This is where I'm at, Byfield is the only untouchable in the entire organization. Listing off a laundry list of prospects that are untouchable for a player the caliber of Jack Eichel is quite frankly embarrassing


His health and attitude are concerns for me. Are we going to get a healthy player and 1 that is happy if they aren't a playoff team right away?
 
I'd like to see them go after Reinhart and a defenseman. I bet McDonagh could be had cheap for a top pairing guy. Yes he's not great offensively but he has a good 1st pass and can still skate. His term is a little long but he would get a similar contract if he were UFA.
I can't think of many worse moves than going after Ryan Mcdonagh... That's 5 more years at 6.75 mil per, for a 32 yr old defenseman.
Making moves like this is precisely how to ruin the future of this organization...
 
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The flip side is that waiting for the prospect to show if he's got it or not can lead to him not being worth as much when it is time to trade him since he's shown that he doesn't have it. Or he gets hurt etc...

Just playing devil's advocate.

If the Kings position in the standings hold and they are drafting 8th or 9th, I think that is the one quality asset that most people can be on board with as a trade chip. From last year's draft, Byfield and Faber are the only ones I'd like to keep off the table. From 2019, Kaliyev is my top guy. Not that I don't like Turcotte but I'd be okay with him being used for big game hunting. I'd listen on Bjornfot as well.

And that's fair. If the Kings had a younger core where they could afford "mistakes" like that, it makes sense. For example, Lombardi trading Schenn two years after drafting him.
 
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