Speculation: 2019 offseason thread IV
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If you want to play a fools game like that, sure. "Says who?" The 30 NHL GMs who evidently think that a 2nd and a 3rd rounder is too much for Gusev.
Maylo
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I mean if you move players in lineup in that... WAR "game", you will get 100+ points, why bother?
Also we will ride on motivation alone!
Viqsi
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Wouldn't be the first time we've done so successfully. Tied an NHL record the last time we did that.
Let's dig up some of your "expert" knowledge on the Gusev situation shall we:
"Vegas could win the cup next year, they're loaded for bear. We shouldn't be trading picks and I don't see why they would trade Gusev for picks anyways. They should upgrade their D, which we can help with."
Speculation: - 2019 offseason thread III
"The player most likely on the move from Vegas is not Gusev, it's Eakin. I'm not super keen on him but if he's available we ought to consider it. I don't think he's as good as Boone but his production is similar, and he probably slots in ahead of Wennberg or Nash.
Vegas can't be serious about trading Gusev for a couple picks or whatever. I think they're just circulating his name to see what they can get. It would take a strong offer."
Speculation: - 2019 offseason thread III
"That's not a good reason to move Gusev for picks. You would just trade Eakin instead. Also, if we sent them Nutivaara for Gusev, we'd be saving them enough money ($2.7m vs $4m) to get under the bar, maybe with a tiny bit of retention."
Speculation: - 2019 offseason thread III
Oh -- and I posted this which you quickly shot down with some Werenski mumbo-jumbo:
"Sure they could trade Eakin -- if somebody wanted him. Maybe they could move Reaves -- if somebody wanted him. Maybe attach a pick to Clarkson -- if somebody wanted that. But they could also just trade him for picks which is a very realistic scenario as it doesn't. add. cap -- which is a damn good reason give their situation."
Speculation: - 2019 offseason thread III
Now excuse me while I don't take everything you post as fact.
Have any teams done anything this off season except for the metro?Of course they had to ship him to a team in the metro besides us..
Panarin effect plain and simple. Jarmo's not going to build around a player who's going to be UFA in 2 years. He's been down that street before.
Jarmo gets a D- for this off season.
If we trade Saad for two years of Panarin, we sure as heck trade two non first rounders even for two years of Gusev.
And we had Gavrikov to help mediate the transition.
Pathetic.
If we trade Saad for two years of Panarin, we sure as heck trade two non first rounders even for two years of Gusev.
And we had Gavrikov to help mediate the transition.
Pathetic.
Long Live Lyle
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That Dzingel trade was absolutely brutal.
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1/3 of the people here ripping Jarmo for trading too much
1/3 of the people here ripping Jarmo for not doing enough
1/3 of the people....just chillin'
1/3 of the people here ripping Jarmo for not doing enough
1/3 of the people....just chillin'
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Yeah, I hope the Columbus patriotism could get us in the post season.
This “want to be in Columbus” crap is for kids to inspire. We know all these dudes would sign wherever offered more money if they had a UFA chance
"Culture" building sounds great now. But if this team finishes with one of the worst 5 records in the NHL, the "culture" defense won't save Jarmo's job or sell tickets.
This is kind of getting weird, the whole rally around Columbus thing.
Long Live Lyle
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The post-game Shelley player interviews after wins are gonna be unbearable this year haha.
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Really the only difference to this team is the subtraction of 2 players who "didn't want to be here" yet supposedly gave their all on the ice while they were here. I'm all for having players who want to be here AND win hockey games. We seemed to have some trouble winning with players who wanted to be here and a few others "tried hard."
The only difference between Pittsburgh and Columbus is that Pittsburgh has been lucky to get generational players and won with them. I'll even confidently say that Columbus is a better city than Pittsburgh. People want to be in Pittsburgh because they've been winners. It's fine and dandy that these players want to be here but they need to be able to win games too.
Pittsburgh was also fortunate to have Mario and Jags to build some decent hockey legacy in the city
We this just isn't true. Some would to be sure. Some would elect to stay. Do we seem to be lost on the concept of the individual and they might have different wants/needs/desires? Probably not, people are probably just jaded.
I wrote the above before watching the extended video of Gusev that I posted a couple weeks ago and again this afternoon.
I personally tend to think that when someone changes their mind on something it doesn't really change their credibility one way or another. But go ahead, use my previous opinion as a personal attack.
Edit: Don't portray me as a pretend "expert". I post here on the same grounds as anyone else and have never suggested otherwise.
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If Jarmo thinks Gusev is anywhere near that good, then he could pay a couple picks to rent him and flip him for more next year. The simpler explanation is that he doesn't think Gusev is that good.
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So that’s what you’re calling this now? Get real.
And I’m not sure why it so hard to admit you were wrong on Gusev. I’m wrong all the time.
Thought Tampa would sweep us — WRONG!
Thought for sure Panarin would get dealt by the deadline — WRONG!
See. It’s not so hard.
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