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GDT: 2019 NHL Entry Draft 2nd Round and Beyond 1:00 EST/10:00am PDT, NHLN

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Amazing Kreiderman said:
Alright. I have to share this. Today the management approached us on their way to the bus and I was in the process of taking a picture with a Rangers fan and Chris Drury when Drury says "Hey. Is that Statboy taking our picture?" And I'm just standing there thinking "so it's not just Bobrov" and at that moment Bobrov walks towards us and I thank him for what he said yesterday to which he says "no. Thank you for all the work you put in. We all notice. You represent the Rangers fan base with everything you do"

What do I say to that? This is crazy. Ask @Inferno

He was there
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That is when you ask if they have room on their European scouting staff
 
RangerBoy said:
That's $1M with no state income tax in Texas. $5M per? The cap being set at $81.5M doesn't help Zuccarello. Hanzal is done. Dallas can spend to the upper limit and put Hanzal($4.75M) on LTIR. They have most of their players signed. I read they may have an interest in Stralman. They need a righty D.

So many of the other teams are already pressed up against the cap with their own key young group II's to sign.
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Shattenkirk @ $3.25m for Hanzal + Nichuskin
-this deal is done with the understanding that Dallas will use this cap space to sign Zuccarello
 
Harbour Dog said:


We had Robertson "very high", and it sounds like buyouts are very much in play if we want to sign a guy or make a trade that requires it.
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Yea the way I viewed that is if they sign a guy then they will buybout a player like Smith

Th Shattenkirk buyout just stinks and I hope it doesn’t come to that

If they can move Vesey . Names ok but a just hate dead cap space

W that said if Panarin goes to FL then no buyouts . Who else is even a realistic ufa target ? I don’t see one that’s worth it

A trade is another thing . Maybe a Gusev
 
Amazing Kreiderman said:
Alright. I have to share this. Today the management approached us on their way to the bus and I was in the process of taking a picture with a Rangers fan and Chris Drury when Drury says "Hey. Is that Statboy taking our picture?" And I'm just standing there thinking "so it's not just Bobrov" and at that moment Bobrov walks towards us and I thank him for what he said yesterday to which he says "no. Thank you for all the work you put in. We all notice. You represent the Rangers fan base with everything you do"

What do I say to that? This is crazy. Ask @Inferno

He was there
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what they didn't tell you is that they all know you cause the FBI showed them your photo to be on the look out lol...but in all seriousness thats pretty freaking cool
 
first time in awhile we didn't draft any overagers...must have seen @Steve Kournianos tweet complaining about it. jones and edstrom are oct 2000 birthdays, but still 1st year of eligibility
 
will1066 said:
No, because he's already proven that he can play with men.
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you definitely aren't sending him for the level of competition...and lots of our prospects have already play with me. I think the benefit of him going is 1)get some experience on the smaller ice and 2)bond with the other prospects that might be future teammates.
 
Vitto79 said:
Yea the way I viewed that is if they sign a guy then they will buybout a player like Smith

Th Shattenkirk buyout just stinks and I hope it doesn’t come to that

If they can move Vesey . Names ok but a just hate dead cap space

W that said if Panarin goes to FL then no buyouts . Who else is even a realistic ufa target ? I don’t see one that’s worth it

A trade is another thing . Maybe a Gusev
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If no Panarin then I hope they wait it out and go bargain bin in August.
 
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New York Rangers: A

The Rangers got a huge piece in Kaapo Kakko, a projected star in the NHL. On Day 2 I thought they helped their system. It wasn’t the exact order I would have taken players in, but I think both Matthew Robertson and Zachary Jones are NHL defensemen. I also think Karl Henriksson and Leevi Aaltonen are very much on the NHL radar. If they get three players from this draft, including Kakko, that would be a great draft, and I think that’s realistic.
 
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Shattenhurts said:
New York Rangers: A

The Rangers got a huge piece in Kaapo Kakko, a projected star in the NHL. On Day 2 I thought they helped their system. It wasn’t the exact order I would have taken players in, but I think both Matthew Robertson and Zachary Jones are NHL defensemen. I also think Karl Henriksson and Leevi Aaltonen are very much on the NHL radar. If they get three players from this draft, including Kakko, that would be a great draft, and I think that’s realistic.
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Pronman?
 
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We don't have as much cap space as some people seem to think.



This assumes Vesey is traded with no money coming back, but it's without Buch, Lemieux, ADA and Trouba. Those 4 will cost at least 14 mil. It also doesn't include Kakko's performance bonuses, which should be the max of 2.85 mil, bringing the total bonuses up to roughly 5.9 mil. Not all of those bonuses will be earned, but we will need to leave some room for some of them, so we really don't have much cap space at all unless we trade someone or buy someone out.

The good news is, I think it actually makes sense to buy out one of Shatty/Smith (assuming we can't trade one of them). Of the two, I think it makes more sense to buy out Shatty. Smith is more versatile. If necessary, we can buyout Smith next summer.

We currently have the following dead cap space from Girardi, Spooner and Beleskey:

2019-20: 5.336 mil
2020-21: 1.11 mil
2021-22: 1.11 mil
2022-23: 1.11 mil

If we keep Shattenkirk, we have:

2019-20: 5.336 mil + 6.65 mil
2019-21: 1.11 mil + 6.65 mil
2021-22: 1.11 mil
2022-23: 1.11 mil

If we buy him out this year, we have:

2019-20: 6.819 mil
2020-21: 7.193 mil
2021-22: 2.544 mil
2022-23: 2.544 mil

If we buy him out next year, we have:

2019-20: 5.336 mil + 6.65 mil
2020-21: 6.426 mil
2021-22: 1.777 mil
2022-23: 1.11 mil

Of course I expect there to be other moves. Kreider will likely get traded. Maybe Names as well. But until those moves happen, we really don't have the cap space to be adding anything significant.
 
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Vitto79 said:
Yea the way I viewed that is if they sign a guy then they will buybout a player like Smith

Th Shattenkirk buyout just stinks and I hope it doesn’t come to that

If they can move Vesey . Names ok but a just hate dead cap space

W that said if Panarin goes to FL then no buyouts . Who else is even a realistic ufa target ? I don’t see one that’s worth it

A trade is another thing . Maybe a Gusev
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Said they are discussing some trades. Thought his recap of the draft was right on, nice mix of different flavors. Only thing missing was a little bit of bite but it's not like we went with nothing but soft players.

A Staal buyout makes the most sense if they're going to buy out anyone but hes untouchable for what ever reason. He a horrific hockey player at a position where we not only have a ton of depth, but can easily sign a 7-8 D for league minimum if need be.

Beyond that, Shatty makes more sense than Smith if you want to save maximum dollars. Smith can be waived, Shatt can't. The one thing that hurts Shattenkirk's chances of being traded is the sheer amount of RHD who have been made available or are still available - We've seen EK sign, Trouba Traded, PK traded and word is there are a few other quality RHD or high ceiling RHD available (rumored at least) via trade (Letang, Spurgeon, Risto, Barrie, Faulk.)

Is Gusev really that good?
 


Then there’s the major decision on Kreider, entering the final year on his contract and headed for unrestricted free agency (and a long-term contract worth north of $7 million per) next summer – which means he’s a strong candidate to be traded sooner than later. Kreider, however, has a 10-team no-trade list, which complicates the situation.

Gorton continues to talk with newly-acquired defenseman Jacob Trouba’s agent Kurt Overhardt. The Rangers were required to make a qualifying offer to the restricted free agent this week and did so with Pavel Buchnevich, Brendan Lemieux, Tony DeAngelo and Vinni Lettieri. Gorton said the team did not qualify defensemen Fredrik Claesson and Chris Bigras, making then unrestricted free agents. Also, minor-league defensemen John Gilmour and Rob O’Gara are unrestricted Group 6 free agents.
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11 team NTC list for Kreider.

The cap was supposed to be set at $83M. It got set at $81.5M. Trouba is going to get $8Mper. Pionk is getting $2.5M per? $7M swing.

The lower cap doesn't help the Rangers in their attempts to shed Vesey, Namestnikov, Shattenkirk and Smith. Buying anyone out is dumb.

Buchnevich is worth how much? Arbitration eligible. He is 3 years away from group III. $3M-$3.5M per in a 2 year bridge.

DeAngelo and Lemieux are not arbitration eligible. Tony can get a good bridge contract. Lemieux isn't getting much more than his QO.

The Rangers have more than $5M in performance bonuses. Kakko is getting $2,850,000 in performance bonuses and that guy can hit those bonuses. The Rangers need to save room to pay those bonuses.
The bonus cushion is 7.5% of the upper limit.

The Rangers would be f***ing insane to make moves to pay Panarin $11M-$12M per.
 
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The cap space really isn’t a problem. We can trade all of Kreider/Namestnikov/Vesey and take back no money other than whoever we use to replace them. Namestnikov and Vesey have value around the league and teams will take them at 100% even if it’s for a minimal return especially once some of the FA get snapped up. We have a ton of guys on one year deals that make between 2-4M that we can give away - Namestnikov Vesey Fast Strome.

Moves for all these guys can happen even after we potentially bring in an expensive player because outside of Kreider the return does not really matter. The cap space is the main asset.

That is before getting into the whole buyout scenario on defense.
 
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Would anyone like to take at shot at our org prospect depth chart by position now that the draft is done?

I am curious about how deep we are across at each position
 
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