Really hopin for Albin Grewe in R2.
It owns that we don't have more picks. It's good.
It owns that we don't have more picks. It's good.
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I don't think we're super focused on defense (not in the first round anyway, but they should be prioritizing it in subsequent rounds if possible). I do think, however, we will take Broberg if he's available.
Feebster mentioned it above, but wouldn't surprise me if they see him as an Edler replacement. He's also probably NHL ready sooner than most.
I'd be a bit disappointed if they take him over Boldy, but can see it over any of the other forwards likely to be a available.
Feebster mentioned it above, but wouldn't surprise me if they see him as an Edler replacement. He's also probably NHL ready sooner than most.
I'd be a bit disappointed if they take him over Boldy, but can see it over any of the other forwards likely to be a available.
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i like your mock.
Turcotte and Byram could flip for me but your top5 is exactly as i see it in terms of players. Dach with MacKinnon makes so much sense for the Avs. They need the 1-2 and MacKinnons play driving style would be complimented well with a big cerebral type.
6-10 is really tough
6 and 7 Detroit and Buffalo....Podkolzin is getting dismissed way too much after his U18s. Guy is a bull in a china shop and has the tools to be a game breaker. If he's left at 10 i would scoop that up and im not a big Russian player fan but i've been reading nothing but great things about his character and work ethic. I like him at 6 or 7 to Detroit or Buffalo and i think the other could be Broberg if the Sabres want to finally get serious about that awful defense.
Edmonton and Anaheim are interesting as well. The Oilers need goals and who better than Caufield Boldy and Cozens in that order. The problem with Caufield for me is i dont think he has enough play driving in his game to push teams heads past watching this playoff and seeing the success of heavy hockey. The Oil will take Cozens or Boldy if Buffalo doesnt. I'm leaning towards Cozens
Anaheim needs Cs. Getzlaf is pretty much done and Steel is a nice player but his ultimate upside may be more 2b than a #1 so i feel that will influence their decision and they will take Zegras with the injury to Krebs or Cozens if he was still available.
which leads to the Canucks....Krebs and 1 of either Broberg/Boldy will be available.
Chi - Byram or Turcotte
Col - Dach or Byram/Turcotte
LA - Turcotte or whoever is left of those 3
Det - Podkolzin or Cozens or Zegras
Buf - Broberg or Podkolzin or Boldy
Edm- Cozens or Podkolzin or Boldy
Ana - Zegras or Broberg or Podkolzin
Van - Boldy or Broberg or Krebs
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Caufield looks so good. Why can't he be a tad bit faster and a tad bit higher. We could fix the skating though.
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I think he's a better passer is smarter and sees the ice better which will be massive as they move up the next levels as smaller players.
He's more likely to stay at centre which adds some value also...........just my 2C
I don’t consider them “concerns” so much as just an area - top end speed mainly - that he could stand to improve in. It’s the type of skating “flaw” that is the most fixable, unlike someone like Bobby Brink who may have unfixable skating mechanics.
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I don't think he really has skating concerns. He's not Hughes, Newhook, or Broberg, but I wouldn't say he's slow, etc. Players with actual skating concerns potentially in the top 10 are Caufield, Dach, and Podkolzin.
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I doubt it means much of anything, but Kuzma has started a series of articles called "The 5-at-10 Project" where he interviews one prospect "the Canucks are considering with the 10th-overall draft pick."
The List is as follows:
MONDAY: Matthew Boldy
TUESDAY: Philip Broberg
WEDNESDAY: Victor Soderstrom
THURSDAY: Peyton Krebs
FRIDAY: Trevor Zegras
I'm thinking we're taking who is left of Broberg and Boldy. Short of Zegras being available, which he won't be.
The List is as follows:
MONDAY: Matthew Boldy
TUESDAY: Philip Broberg
WEDNESDAY: Victor Soderstrom
THURSDAY: Peyton Krebs
FRIDAY: Trevor Zegras
I'm thinking we're taking who is left of Broberg and Boldy. Short of Zegras being available, which he won't be.
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I hope it's one of the forwards -- I'd be very happy with Boldy -- and that one of the d-men ranked in the first round somehow falls to the Canucks in the 2nd. I know ... the second part isn't particularly realistic.
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Some interesting commentary on the league-wide buzz here: https://thehockeywriters.com/2019-nhl-draft-projecting-first-round/
Top four is pretty set, it seems, but some interesting stuff in the 5-9 slots.
5. LA: At No. 5, it sounds like Los Angeles is debating between four forwards — WHLers Dach and Cozens as well as NTDPers Zegras and Caufield. My mock had Byram falling to the Kings, but the consensus doesn’t see that happening. So one of those four are most likely. I’d lean toward Zegras personally, if Byram is off the board, but the other three are tempting too for L.A.
6. Detroit: At No. 6, Detroit is the toughest team to predict this year. I’ve heard as many as seven different names associated with the Red Wings, with Zegras being the clear fan favourite — feeling he could form a dynamic duo with 2018 first-rounder Filip Zadina. Zegras to Zadina, that does have a nice ring to it. However, Dach, Cozens and even Krebs from the WHL have been mentioned, along with Podkolzin, Broberg and Seider from overseas. Seider is a long-shot, but Broberg could be the sleeper here.
7. At No. 7, Buffalo seems to be leaning towards one of those NTDP forwards — preferably Zegras or Boldy, but Caufield is in the mix there too. I had Broberg to Buffalo, joining Rasmus Dahlin to form a dominant defence corps, but that pick wasn’t well received. There was a strong push for a forward, with Cozens also mentioned a couple times. Zegras would be the top choice, but most expect him to be taken in the top six, with Boldy the fallback plan for Buffalo.
8. Edmonton: At No. 8, as mentioned, Edmonton could be eyeing Broberg since the arrival of Holland. Broberg’s upside could be as high as Hedman or John Klingberg, but he reminds others of current Oilers defenders Oscar Klefbom and Darnell Nurse. Holland has also spoken highly of the NTDP forwards, with some suggesting Boldy would be the best fit for Edmonton ahead of Zegras or Caufield. Broberg has emerged as the betting favourite here, unless Dach is available, but Cozens and Boldy are also very much on the radar by the sounds of it.
9. At No. 9, Anaheim is said to be debating between WHL forwards Cozens and Krebs, assuming both are available at this spot. Both would be good fits for the Ducks, so that decision could come down to a coin flip. In saying that, there are some whispers that Anaheim could opt for a defenceman — Broberg, Söderström and York being the likely targets
Top four is pretty set, it seems, but some interesting stuff in the 5-9 slots.
5. LA: At No. 5, it sounds like Los Angeles is debating between four forwards — WHLers Dach and Cozens as well as NTDPers Zegras and Caufield. My mock had Byram falling to the Kings, but the consensus doesn’t see that happening. So one of those four are most likely. I’d lean toward Zegras personally, if Byram is off the board, but the other three are tempting too for L.A.
6. Detroit: At No. 6, Detroit is the toughest team to predict this year. I’ve heard as many as seven different names associated with the Red Wings, with Zegras being the clear fan favourite — feeling he could form a dynamic duo with 2018 first-rounder Filip Zadina. Zegras to Zadina, that does have a nice ring to it. However, Dach, Cozens and even Krebs from the WHL have been mentioned, along with Podkolzin, Broberg and Seider from overseas. Seider is a long-shot, but Broberg could be the sleeper here.
7. At No. 7, Buffalo seems to be leaning towards one of those NTDP forwards — preferably Zegras or Boldy, but Caufield is in the mix there too. I had Broberg to Buffalo, joining Rasmus Dahlin to form a dominant defence corps, but that pick wasn’t well received. There was a strong push for a forward, with Cozens also mentioned a couple times. Zegras would be the top choice, but most expect him to be taken in the top six, with Boldy the fallback plan for Buffalo.
8. Edmonton: At No. 8, as mentioned, Edmonton could be eyeing Broberg since the arrival of Holland. Broberg’s upside could be as high as Hedman or John Klingberg, but he reminds others of current Oilers defenders Oscar Klefbom and Darnell Nurse. Holland has also spoken highly of the NTDP forwards, with some suggesting Boldy would be the best fit for Edmonton ahead of Zegras or Caufield. Broberg has emerged as the betting favourite here, unless Dach is available, but Cozens and Boldy are also very much on the radar by the sounds of it.
9. At No. 9, Anaheim is said to be debating between WHL forwards Cozens and Krebs, assuming both are available at this spot. Both would be good fits for the Ducks, so that decision could come down to a coin flip. In saying that, there are some whispers that Anaheim could opt for a defenceman — Broberg, Söderström and York being the likely targets
I will participate in the exercise of providing a list of players I prefer the Canucks to draft if given the opportunity.
1. Hughes
2. Kakko
Clearcut top 2 players in the draft. I prefer Hughes over Kakko as I think Hughes has the higher upside and can potentially play C. And no way the Canucks can pass on having the Hughes brothe
rs together.
3. Byram
If C is a need there are no issues drafting a C, but for the Canucks, Byram fills a need and would be a legitimate BPA selection
4. Turcotte
I ultimately had Turcotte here because I think he's the most well-rounded forward, can play C, and while not necessarily having the highest offensive ceiling he projects to be a good player without much bust potential.
5. Zegras 6. Krebs
I have Zegras and Krebs lumped together. If not for his achilles injury I probably would of had Krebs at #5. I think Krebs is similar to Turcotte. While I do think Krebs will recover, there are too many times where a highly regarded player who missed development time did not end up reaching his potential. Zegras' overall skills package I think is best best among the group of forwards after the top 2.
For me there is a bit of separation after these guys. I'll be happy if the Canucks trade down. My trade down targets would be Newhook and Seider.
7. Boldy. 8. Newhook 9. Seider
The Canucks bigger need is on the wing rather than C. Boldy is the best natural winger/projected winger after Kakko and Krebs for me. I would probably rank Newhook over Boldy if Newhook didn't play in the BCHL and Jost not having developed into a star player yet. Seider is the 2nd best Dman in the draft to me. I think he's a safe bet to be a top 4 Dman. Getting a top 4 Dman for 10+ value is pretty good value at 10.
10. Dach. His goal totals in the WHL is a bit concerning to me and lack of drive seems to be a common criticism. Still his size, skills, hockey sense package leads to a very high ceiling. Could be the next Getzlaf or a bust IMO. I struggled ranking Dach in the top 10 at all. I think his bust factor is too great for my liking but he's 6'4 200lbs.
11. Cole Caufield. I had a hard time ranking him. I'm not really a fan of small players who doesn't possess elite skating. But hard to argue against his historic production. If his skating allows him to get to the spots he need to be to score then I think he's going to be a scorer in the NHL. But I am concerned that if he isn't scoring he's not doing much. I would have ranked him 7th if not for my concerns.
I am not too high on Cozens as a top 10 pick as he lacks hockey sense. But at a certain spot, his size skills package make him worthy to draft. But given the Canucks need, it might make more sense to trade down and draft a Dman or one of the guys above. After Seider I think the Dmen have potential but more flaws.
1. Hughes
2. Kakko
Clearcut top 2 players in the draft. I prefer Hughes over Kakko as I think Hughes has the higher upside and can potentially play C. And no way the Canucks can pass on having the Hughes brothe
rs together.
3. Byram
If C is a need there are no issues drafting a C, but for the Canucks, Byram fills a need and would be a legitimate BPA selection
4. Turcotte
I ultimately had Turcotte here because I think he's the most well-rounded forward, can play C, and while not necessarily having the highest offensive ceiling he projects to be a good player without much bust potential.
5. Zegras 6. Krebs
I have Zegras and Krebs lumped together. If not for his achilles injury I probably would of had Krebs at #5. I think Krebs is similar to Turcotte. While I do think Krebs will recover, there are too many times where a highly regarded player who missed development time did not end up reaching his potential. Zegras' overall skills package I think is best best among the group of forwards after the top 2.
For me there is a bit of separation after these guys. I'll be happy if the Canucks trade down. My trade down targets would be Newhook and Seider.
7. Boldy. 8. Newhook 9. Seider
The Canucks bigger need is on the wing rather than C. Boldy is the best natural winger/projected winger after Kakko and Krebs for me. I would probably rank Newhook over Boldy if Newhook didn't play in the BCHL and Jost not having developed into a star player yet. Seider is the 2nd best Dman in the draft to me. I think he's a safe bet to be a top 4 Dman. Getting a top 4 Dman for 10+ value is pretty good value at 10.
10. Dach. His goal totals in the WHL is a bit concerning to me and lack of drive seems to be a common criticism. Still his size, skills, hockey sense package leads to a very high ceiling. Could be the next Getzlaf or a bust IMO. I struggled ranking Dach in the top 10 at all. I think his bust factor is too great for my liking but he's 6'4 200lbs.
11. Cole Caufield. I had a hard time ranking him. I'm not really a fan of small players who doesn't possess elite skating. But hard to argue against his historic production. If his skating allows him to get to the spots he need to be to score then I think he's going to be a scorer in the NHL. But I am concerned that if he isn't scoring he's not doing much. I would have ranked him 7th if not for my concerns.
I am not too high on Cozens as a top 10 pick as he lacks hockey sense. But at a certain spot, his size skills package make him worthy to draft. But given the Canucks need, it might make more sense to trade down and draft a Dman or one of the guys above. After Seider I think the Dmen have potential but more flaws.
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Broberg Has to be one of the most polarizing Prospects that I have seen in years.
It’s such a wide gap from people liking him or not liking him.
I have seen him as high as six, And as low as 33, crazy range.
It’s such a wide gap from people liking him or not liking him.
I have seen him as high as six, And as low as 33, crazy range.
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Kuzma has never recognized Newhook as a candidate for Canucks pick, but they brought him to Vancouver for interview and there is chatter they really like him.
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And Kuzma seems to be pushing the Soderstrom narrative when there hasn’t been any real smoke there as far as I know.
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