2019 NHL Draft - June 21st - With The 14th Selection, The Coyotes.......

[hbk]

Newhook w 3 goals and Cozens w 3 apples in U18 pretournament game against Belarus.

 

[BUX7PHX]

I couldn't give two hoots about RT's system when picking a player on draft day. I pick the best player available, period. It's up to RT to put these players in a position to succeed. Unfortunately, he hasn't done it with much success.

Maybe that was the crux of the problem with Strome.

Keller and Chychrun have assimilated themselves fairly well, although I do think that there is more to get out of them.

It is a mix of ideas, to be honest.

The perfect storm is when BPA and need encompass the exact same player.

I do think that the first 50 picks or so have a little more need implied to them, whereas in the latter portion of the draft, you take BPA. The reason why is because you can likely get more immediate help early in the draft, whereas later in the draft has more time needed for players to develop.

In my eyes, you can't go wrong with BPA, but that may not fill the need.

Sorry to go back to Strome, but was he the BPA at the time when he was drafted or was he the greatest need? Remember that Maloney talked about how we have a NEED for a #1 C. But the player also had the conundrum of not being great in our system.

The way I see it in creating your draft board:

1. Base off of BPA first in creating your order.
2. If players do not fit the system, you don't necessarily need to change their position on your draft board, but need to "mark" these players as risks because they may have trouble fitting in to the system.
3. Finally, adjust based on potential need.

All of these are fluid though. If you have 6 centers and 1 D on your list, but you don't particularly think you will get a D with the same set of potential in the 2nd round as the 1st, maybe you go D, and then continue with BPA that fit the system in later rounds.

 

[tucknroll]

Newhook is going to want to step up at the U-18 i'm guessing, after a mediocre World Junior A Challenge this year for a player that should have been dominant.
Krebs had 2 points (goal, assists)
Canada won 6-5 in OT

 

[lanky]

Kinda sucks for the Coyotes that the Central division will get the 3 OA and 4 OA picks despite those teams not being that bad.

 

[BUX7PHX]

I still do think that trading down may represent an opportunity should the players that we want at #14 be gone.

Let's say that the Lightning wind up losing in the first round. That means they pick at #27, based on having the best record of teams not in the Conference Finals.

Would that still be an option to slide back to #27 and pick up a player like Palat or Killorn with TB eating $1 M in salary? Tampa gets $3.5-$4.5 M in savings and moves up. We slide back with the players that we like gone and then maybe get a chance at a Brink, Legare, Lavoie, McMichael, Foote, Caulfield, Leason or others where #14 is a little too high of a price.

For the record, I am intrigued by Nolan Foote in the late 1st/early 2nd. He can put the puck in the net, but it almost sounds like he could be Henrik Samuelsson 2.0. Nathan Legare also seems like a very interesting player as well.

 

[rt]

Newhook w 3 goals and Cozens w 3 apples in U18 pretournament game against Belarus.

Anyone know if NHLN will pick up any U18 in the states?

 

[hbk]

Anyone know if NHLN will pick up any U18 in the states?

Doubtful w playoffs on I would think. TSN will have it in Canada. That being said they are on during daytime so maybe. First game is Thursday at about 10:30 AM AZ time if my time zone math is correct.

 

[Mosby]

Central Scouting has moved Byram to 2nd among NAs in its final rankings, ahead of both Cozens and Dach.

 

[Puck possession wins]

I'd be friggin ecstatic if Caufield dropped to us, but I don't see that happening.

Personally (and you're going to all hate me for this) I'd take Cam York.

York is 6ft and is lightning in the transition game and has a great shot. Plus he's going to a great collegiate school in Michigan.

That said, I think GMJC ends up taking one of McMichael/Newhook/Suzuki.

 

[Vinny Boombatz]

But York is a LHD, we've got loads of those guys. Capobianco, POJ, Dineen, Hoefenmayer (if signed), Bahl, etc...no way it can be a LHD.

 

[rt]

I think it’s pretty likely Caufield drops to 14. He wasn’t among the top sixteen players in the latest McKenzie poll.

 

[tucknroll]

Personally i don't take Caufield till at least 20+, the fact that his size isn't the thing that worries me most about him is a giant red flag in my eyes, especially for a player in the 10-20 range. There is no denying his shot, skill or skating.. just his ability to use his team mates and set up a play which is where the Debrincat comparisons die in my eyes. Players who are one dimensional pure goal scorers pan out less often or usually struggle more at the next levels. I could easily be wrong about him and he becomes a stud, but personally id rather be wrong about him and still get a player i'm more confident will be an effective player than be the one to take a risk on him early and he ends up disappointing. Just my opinion though, i still can really see why people like him.

I'm also adding Keppen to my list of players id like in the late third or fourth round.

Krebs down to 10 on Central for north america. (Not impossible that he falls to 14, but still unlikely)
and Tomasino up to 14

 

[IPreferPi]

For whatever reason, I'm just not feeling it with Caufield. I think if Chayka is going to go the small skilled forward route he will go with Brink instead.

 

[rt]

At this point I'm hoping we go with Newhook. He's a center, an elite skater, he's got high-end offensive skill, and scoring upside. Seems committed. Moved away from home in Newfoundland to Ontario at 14 for hockey. Moved from Ontario to BC at 16 for hockey. Will attend Boston College next season. His story suggests a high level of dedication. Seems like a bright, mature, articulate kid (at least from interviews). He's his team's captain as a 17 year old. Comes from an athletic family. Parents and sister were/are collegiate athletes.

Main concern with him seems to be that he plays in a weak league. He led the league in scoring, though, and by a huge margin:

1. Alex Newhook 53gp 38g 64a 102p 1.92ppg
2. Ryan Brushett 55gp 41g 43a 84p 1.53ppg
3. Mike Hardman 58gp 39g 33a 72p 1.24ppg
4. Dustin Manz 58gp 33g 37a 70p 1.21ppg
5. Matt Holmes 54gp 28g 40a 68p 1.26ppg

He's youngest BCHL scoring champion since Scott Gomez (1996-97)

It seems like when I read about the Newhook's flaws, they're the flaws of his league and not his own. When I search for negatives, it's mostly that the BCHL has declined in quality, and was already quite a big step below the CHL. There are also concerns that he hasn't been great at international camps and tournaments. Disappointing showings in small sample sizes.

If I'm going to take the risk and swing for the fences in the mid-first, I'd like the upside to be top six center. If the upside is tiny scoring winger like Caufield or mercurial scoring winger like Kaliyev, that's okay, too. It's just that I'm less keen on players who have their negatives listed in their absolute upsides.

Newhook is risky. Like most kids in this range. He's the one I'm hoping is around when we pick, at this point.

Keep stockpiling those centers.

 

[Jagged Ice]

^^How about Lavoie?

 

[GhostofYotesFan47]

At this point I'm hoping we go with Newhook. He's a center, an elite skater, he's got high-end offensive skill, and scoring upside. Seems committed. Moved away from home in Newfoundland to Ontario at 14 for hockey. Moved from Ontario to BC at 16 for hockey. Will attend Boston College next season. His story suggests a high level of dedication. Seems like a bright, mature, articulate kid (at least from interviews). He's his team's captain as a 17 year old. Comes from an athletic family. Parents and sister were/are collegiate athletes.

Main concern with him seems to be that he plays in a weak league. He led the league in scoring, though, and by a huge margin:

1. Alex Newhook 53gp 38g 64a 102p 1.92ppg
2. Ryan Brushett 55gp 41g 43a 84p 1.53ppg
3. Mike Hardman 58gp 39g 33a 72p 1.24ppg
4. Dustin Manz 58gp 33g 37a 70p 1.21ppg
5. Matt Holmes 54gp 28g 40a 68p 1.26ppg

He's youngest BCHL scoring champion since Scott Gomez (1996-97)

It seems like when I read about the Newhook's flaws, they're the flaws of his league and not his own. When I search for negatives, it's mostly that the BCHL has declined in quality, and was already quite a big step below the CHL. There are also concerns that he hasn't been great at international camps and tournaments. Disappointing showings in small sample sizes.

If I'm going to take the risk and swing for the fences in the mid-first, I'd like the upside to be top six center. If the upside is tiny scoring winger like Caufield or mercurial scoring winger like Kaliyev, that's okay, too. It's just that I'm less keen on players who have their negatives listed in their absolute upsides.

Newhook is risky. Like most kids in this range. He's the one I'm hoping is around when we pick, at this point.

Keep stockpiling those centers.

He's my number 2 in that spot and I agree with much of what you said there. If we took Newhook instead of Caufield I would be disappointed but still ecstatic.

 

[rt]

^^How about Lavoie?

He's ten days younger than Jan Jenik, who we drafted last year. So he's one of the oldest players in the draft. He's 6'4 and should be able to dummy the QMJHL.

17-18 Halifax Scoring:
1. Otto Somppi (C) 59gp 28g 55a 83p
2. Filip Zadina (LW/RW) 57gp 44g 38a 82p
3. Maxime Fortier (RW) 61gp 32g 43a 75p
4. Raphaël Lavoie (C/RW) 68gp 30g 33a 63p
5. Benoit Groulx (C) 68gp 28g 27a 55p

18-19 Halifax Scoring:
1. Samuel Asselin (C) 68gp 48g 38a 86p
2. Benoit Groulx (C) 65gp 31g 49a 80p
3. Arnaud Durandeau (LW) 68gp 38g 35a 73p
4. Raphaël Lavoie (C/RW) 62gp 32g 41a 73p
5. Antoine Morand (C) 62gp 22g 48a 70p
6. Jared McIsaac (D) 53gp 16g 46a 62p

So he put up some really impressive numbers last year. Even though he was an "old" 17 year old, he was really impressive statistically. His numbers are pretty "meh" as an "old" 18 year old this season, though. Not much growth, there. Not really standing out among his peers in Halifax. He's six months younger than McIsaac (a defenseman) and six months younger than Groulx (drafted as a defensive specialist forward). Lavoie's 73pts this season is pretty much smack dab in the middle of Groulx's 80 and McIsaac's 62.

Having said that, he REALLY stepped it up in the playoffs, statistically. Was far and away the most impressive Moosehead in the post-season, based on stats.

He's certainly a decent gamble at 14, according to the scouting reports. Big, strong, good skater for his size, good array of shooting skills, apparently improving some previously questionable defensive skills. Apparently can be a force when he's on, bringing it all over the ice. Apparently that's not reliably the case. But he's young, and consistency is a problem for most of these kids. Even if he's an "old" 18 year old. Haha.

All that to say, it's clear why he's ranked low enough to be available at our pick. It's also clear why he's ranked high enough to be an option at our pick. I could definitely convince myself to be happy about picking him at 14.

 

[rt]

We'll hopefully get a long look at Lavoie at the MemCup if he's healthy. Halifax is hosting, so they're guaranteed a spot.

 

[lanky]

I expect Krebs and Newhook to be late risers in the top 10. They both have been discounted for the situation they played in, not for the way they played in that situation. Now that they're on the top line for Canada at the U18s with all eyes on them, there should be no more discounting. Unless they whiff.

 

[rt]

I expect Krebs and Newhook to be late risers in the top 10. They both have been discounted for the situation they played in, not for the way they played in that situation. Now that they're on the top line for Canada at the U18s with all eyes on them, there should be no more discounting. Unless they whiff.

And that's okay. It just means someone else drops. Does a guy like Boldy take a tumble? I'd jump for joy.

 

[BUX7PHX]

Krebs and Newhook are the two players that I am most interested in getting, but hard to say where they wind up at. If it winds up with Krebs still being available at 11, would we be able to swing #14 and Fischer to Philadelphia for #11?

Philly just got rid of Simmonds, and has a few RFAs with some interesting value in Sanheim, Provorov, Konecny, and Laughton, so they might need to take a cheap RFA like Fischer who will probably be on a bridge deal for a while longer.

Not sure if that is enticing enough.

 

[lanky]

I think that would be enough for Philly to drop back. I'm not sure how I feel about it though.

 

[rt]

I don’t view Krebs and Newhook in a similar category. I wouldn’t rank Krebs below sixth. I don’t think I’d rank Newhook above 11th.

 

[rt]

I guess this is my list for now:

1. Hughes
2. Kakko
3. Podkolzin
4. Turcotte
5. Krebs
6. Dach
7. Cozens
8. Zegras
9. Boldy
10. Newhook
11. Caufield
12. Kaliyev
13. McMichael

I guess if I’m not being a jerk I can at least chuck Byram in there (realistically there should be more D but damnit NO!!!)

1. Hughes
2. Kakko
3. Podkolzin
4. Turcotte
5. Byram
6. Krebs
7. Dach
8. Cozens
9. Zegras
10.Boldy
11.Newhook
12.Caufied
13.Kaliyev
14.McMichael

 

[IPreferPi]

Some interesting and in-depth scouting reports on Newhook and Brink: