2019 NHL Draft - June 21st - With The 14th Selection, The Coyotes.......

[GhostofYotesFan47]

My choice - Soderstrom, Kaliyev or Newhook. Even Seider, but not Caufield.

Out of curiosity, why not Caufield?

 

[GhostofYotesFan47]

I guess this is my list for now:

1. Hughes
2. Kakko
3. Podkolzin
4. Turcotte
5. Krebs
6. Dach
7. Cozens
8. Zegras
9. Boldy
10. Newhook
11. Caufield
12. Kaliyev
13. McMichael

No dman in the first 13 picks eh?

I don't think Byram makes it out of the top 10 or past Buffalo.

 

[rt]

Haha. “my” list.

 

[GhostofYotesFan47]

Haha. “my” list.

Lol my b.

 

[_Del_]

Presumably at least one or two dmen in the top 13. Should leave us with someone on @rt 's list as well as the guy we actually pick rated #30 something on the CSB list that Chayka has been excited about since before Christmas.

 

[Grimes]

I really love the idea of getting Florida's 1st for Luognos cap. Then we can either flip it for a player or potentially draft two really interesting players. Or package the two to move up into the top 5. The nice aspect of these early teens picks is they don't hold the same weight as a top ten pick. A top ten pick means if you like guys further back, there is way more pressure put on that player and GM when you reach for them. Hayton obviously is a case of this but Juolevi is another great example, I bet that entire fanbase wished Vancouver moved back to grab a Bean,McCavoy,Chychrun. Two later first may interest someone like Detroit who would be reaching for a defenseman if Byram is selected before them and is such a glaring positional need.

 

[GhostofYotesFan47]

I really love the idea of getting Florida's 1st for Luognos cap. Then we can either flip it for a player or potentially draft two really interesting players. Or package the two to move up into the top 5. The nice aspect of these early teens picks is they don't hold the same weight as a top ten pick. A top ten pick means if you like guys further back, there is way more pressure put on that player and GM when you reach for them. Hayton obviously is a case of this but Juolevi is another great example, I bet that entire fanbase wished Vancouver moved back to grab a Bean,McCavoy,Chychrun. Two later first may interest someone like Detroit who would be reaching for a defenseman if Byram is selected before them and is such a glaring positional need.

What do we give up in a scenario like that?

 

[Grimes]

If we can aquire Florida's 1st for taking out Luongo's cap it would be 13th+14th for the 6th. Add any 3rd or later picks to balance it out.

 

[hbk]

I’m hoping Krebs falls to 14. I already posted the marketing campaign.

 

[Grimes]

I’m hoping Krebs falls to 14. I already posted the marketing campaign.

Well we would absolutely be able to grab him in the above scenario

 

[lanky]

I'd love to pick Krebs at 6 OA but I'd rather pick Soderstrom and Brink at 13 & 14 OA.

I expect instead of either scenario I'll have to see us pick Harley at 14 OA as the only pick on day one.

 

[rt]

Brink seems like a big reach that early. He reminds me a lot of Nick Merkley, actually. I think the very late first is the most likely range he'll go. Honestly, I think it's more likely he goes 32nd than 12th.

 

[rt]

I’m hoping Krebs falls to 14. I already posted the marketing campaign.

I liked Krebs a ton at the Hlinka Gretzky Cup. Probably more so than Dach or Cozens. I also like what he's been able to to on a terrible WHL team. Dragging them so far on his shoulders. I'd probably rank him 5th or 6th overall in the draft, honestly. If Chayka somehow owned the 4th overall pick and took Krebs, I wouldn't bat an eyelash.

 

[rt]

If we can aquire Florida's 1st for taking out Luongo's cap it would be 13th+14th for the 6th. Add any 3rd or later picks to balance it out.

Luongo seems to be angling hard to become back-up. Florida fans seem to support it, as well. Seems nuts to me. But it may be likely that Reimer becomes the dump, rather than Luongo. Not sure Florida would pay such a large price to dump 3.4m. Even Luongo has a caphit of just 4.5m due to Vancouver retention. I'd guess that even with Luongo, Florida would want a fairly decent asset coming back for the 13th overall. Maybe the 45th overall pick or Christian Fischer.

 

[hbk]

I liked Krebs a ton at the Hlinka Gretzky Cup. Probably more so than Dach or Cozens. I also like what he's been able to to on a terrible WHL team. Dragging them so far on his shoulders. I'd probably rank him 5th or 6th overall in the draft, honestly. If Chayka somehow owned the 4th overall pick and took Krebs, I wouldn't bat an eyelash.

I literally tweak my top 15 list 3-4 times daily. It’s insane.

 

[lanky]

Brink seems like a big reach that early. He reminds me a lot of Nick Merkley, actually. I think the very late first is the most likely range he'll go. Honestly, I think it's more likely he goes 32nd than 12th.

Brink is quicker than Merkley was. He's putting up points at a better rate than Merkley did, even though Merkley had the help of Draisaitl. I acknowledge that USHL and WHL are not the same, however Brink's production is historically significant. Also Merkley was a very good prospect and definitely worth a mid-first. He just hasn't developed as well as he would've without the injuries.

 

[rt]

Brink is quicker than Merkley was. He's putting up points at a better rate than Merkley did, even though Merkley had the help of Draisaitl. I acknowledge that USHL and WHL are not the same, however Brink's production is historically significant. Also Merkley was a very good prospect and definitely worth a mid-first. He just hasn't developed as well as he would've without the injuries.

I don’t see Brink as quick. That’s my main problem with him. Which was where the Merkley comp came from.

In the games I’ve seen (very limited sample) Brink’s overall mobility and quickness with the puck was disappointing to me.

 

[rt]

Having said that, he’s lighting up the USHL and is 5 weeks shy of being eligible for next draft. He’s doing something right. Haha. I probably caught him on bad nights. And he certainly has plenty of time to develop.

I just worry when I see a guy with Keller’s body, look more like Galchenyuk in terms of edge work and acceleration.

 

[lanky]

I don’t see Brink as quick. That’s my main problem with him. Which was where the Merkley comp came from.

In the games I’ve seen (very limited sample) Brink’s overall mobility and quickness with the puck was disappointing to me.

That's fair. You've seen two more of Brink's games than I have. His highlights and scouting reports suggest that he is quick so I'm going to hang my hat on that.

 

[tucknroll]

I’m hoping Krebs falls to 14. I already posted the marketing campaign.

I agree with the bolded, in my opinion he has the highest probability to fall to us as of now before the U-18's have happened (out of players i'm interested in), so fingers crossed. Could end up being like Barzal in 2015, good numbers, plays on a bad team, great U-18, and still somehow falls. Podkolzin is clearly in the mix of players too but i'm not ready to make an opinion of him yet due to lack of views

Personally as of now, unless one of Turcotte, Krebs, Dach, Byram or Zegras..Maybe Boldy (in order of personal desire) falls to 14, then id trade down to 20-24, Take one of Tomasino, Suzuki, Pelletier, Nick Robertson or possibly Sam Poulin
Look at players like Rees, Mastrosimone, Legare or anyone previously mentioned in the second round. (I could see McMichael being the Akil Thomas of this draft and possibly falling, he like Thomas would be a great pick up and a steal in the second)
Third round i look at players like Maccelli, Zach Jones, Farinacci, Soogard, Constantinou
Fourth round i like Fensor, Karl Henriksson, Tieksola, Blake Murray (though he's been rising again recently and will likely go 2nd or 3rd round), Koster or again any player previously mentioned that may fall
Likhachyov is someone id look into in the last 3 rounds too, then players like Rizzo (i could see falling, obviously i have no clue how far), Del Galzio, Attard ...
This will likely change a bit after U-18 but probably not a lot. If anything just more names to add likely

And agains i can't stress this enough... If this team is trading for picks i hope their for next years draft

 

[BlazingBlueAnt]

I feel like Krebs and Zegras would be perfect for RT's system, hopefully one of them will fall

 

[hbk]

Watching recorded PA Raiders vs Saskatoon Blades games this morning. Dach reminds me so much of Getzlaf. He's been fantastic.

I really like Leason as well. In on everything. heavy player.

 

[Mosby]

Krebs is exactly what we need. Would be thrilled if he was there at 14.

 

[Jakey53]

I really love the idea of getting Florida's 1st for Luognos cap. Then we can either flip it for a player or potentially draft two really interesting players. Or package the two to move up into the top 5. The nice aspect of these early teens picks is they don't hold the same weight as a top ten pick. A top ten pick means if you like guys further back, there is way more pressure put on that player and GM when you reach for them. Hayton obviously is a case of this but Juolevi is another great example, I bet that entire fanbase wished Vancouver moved back to grab a Bean,McCavoy,Chychrun. Two later first may interest someone like Detroit who would be reaching for a defenseman if Byram is selected before them and is such a glaring positional need.

I think Ottawa could do the same, probably easier than us. When we sign that 1C this year we won't have to worry about hitting the cap floor.

 

[Jakey53]

I feel like Krebs and Zegras would be perfect for RT's system, hopefully one of them will fall

I couldn't give two hoots about RT's system when picking a player on draft day. I pick the best player available, period. It's up to RT to put these players in a position to succeed. Unfortunately, he hasn't done it with much success.