Reaper45
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Doesnt matter to me. The Kings luck with Russians is bad bad. Zhitnik, Russian mob(rumor). Frolov, enigma. Voynov, we all know how that ended. And those are the best Russian memories in L.A. Kovalchuk remains to be seen.
2019 Draft Discussion
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Ziggy Stardust
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Not to come over. The Cherapanov story is tragic, and he was only 19 when he passed away. He would’ve come over. Was drafted in 2007, and died a year later. So sad.
If LA picks 4-5, I hope the Russian goes 3rd. More options for LA if that makes sense. I’m kinda on the Byram train but it should always be BPA.
IF the Kings fall to 4-5, I think it’ll be between Dach and Byram but with that 25th-ish pick... I’m hoping Arthur Kaliyev
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Dach has been falling to 7-9 on some lists. He's not as fast as Cozens and only has scored 25 goals. Turcotte and Zegras are rising...as is Byram. Byram on D, has more goals than Dach! He has 26.
Would rather have Turcotte, Cozens, or Byram than Dach.
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Byram is going to be a Top 2 Dman. He just isn't as sexy as the forwards so he isn't getting the publicity yet. Someone is going to get him and they will have a guy who anchors into the lineup for a long time. Less chance of a bust with Byram.
For me, Turcotte or Zegras if we are picking 3/4, Cozens at 5, Byram if he is available at 6 or Dach. We won't slide further down than that. Byram is actually a logical pick for a team like LA that doesn't have a #1 or #2 Dman in the system. We can get an really good forward with our next pick but Byram is head and shoulders above the other Dmen in this draft.
For me, Turcotte or Zegras if we are picking 3/4, Cozens at 5, Byram if he is available at 6 or Dach. We won't slide further down than that. Byram is actually a logical pick for a team like LA that doesn't have a #1 or #2 Dman in the system. We can get an really good forward with our next pick but Byram is head and shoulders above the other Dmen in this draft.
Dach isn’t a goal scorer tho he absolutely can.. he’s more jumbo Joe with potential for big assist totals although the thought of Byram is my fav... I think people are starting to realize that’s he’s a plug and play Dman and I can’t see him dropping past #3
I prefer Dach to Cozens still. Both him and Cozens vary from 3rd-10th on various rankings. Dach is still higher rated averaging out major scouting services and from HF users who have seen both play. If you are drafting Dach it isn't for goal scoring rather because you see what most do the next R. Getzlaf. How many times has Getzlaf hit 30g? I'd still love to have a clone.
Kakko /Hughes
Turcotte/Byram
Dach/Cozens/Podkolzin/Krebs/Zegras/Boldy
My personal preferences tiered in order
Kakko /Hughes
Turcotte/Byram
Dach/Cozens/Podkolzin/Krebs/Zegras/Boldy
My personal preferences tiered in order
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I wouldn't put it past the Kings to package their 2nd first rounder and their 2nd if they want to get into the Top 10-15 or even the Top 10 if they see a guy that they really like.
KingCanadain1976
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I have a question is Byram nhl ready if we take him with our first pick? I would love to see Drew with a stud defense man that can hold his own so drew don't have to baby sit. Also how many of the forwards in this draft are nhl ready? Do we really want to have one nhl ready? i ask because i think another tank year might be the best thing for this team long term
Frolov 6'3
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Not a fan of a player who is supposed to be the next Getzlaf because of lack of scoring. I would stay far and away from Dach.
1a) Kakko
1b) Hughes
3) Turcotte
4) Byram
5) Cozens
I think that the Kings will be picking in the Top 10 again next year as well. This is more than a one year rebuild. I doubt that Byram is ready. Usually, these guys need some seasoning. The only guys who are probably NHL ready are Hughes, Kakko and Podkolzin. Even being NHL ready though doesn't mean that that they will have a major impact.
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I think that Brickley is making strides since back and possibly could be that player next year. I think the Kings must take the BPA and if Byram is that player, when they select and he
takes another year of juniors, no big deal. Brickley, Clague and Anderson (if he signs) could all play next year. Why not acquire a decent, 24-30 year old LHD to play with Doughty,
for that matter?
It's not like this #1 pick must play in the NHL this coming season. Maybe only Hughes and Kakko are the only ones that do. The Kings could honestly have Kupari, JAD and one of
Brickley / Clague / Anderson making the team. Players like Grundstrom, Luff, Wagner, Walker, and Roy are all new players this year and will be vying for spots. If the Kings draft Byramand he plays another year of juniors, no big deal. Just draft the BPA.
Then the following year, may be adding Byram, Thomas, Markus Phillips and Durzi...and the Tor #1 and the LA #2. Just keep them coming.
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Ziggy Stardust
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Lately there haven't been as many pick for pick trades in the first round. I forget where I read it, but the general feeling was that GMs weren't too keen on dropping more than a couple spots if they were trading down. Usually there's a lot more pick movement in the NFL Draft but that's a different beast given the sheer number of positions plus the reasonable expectation that 2nd/3rd/4th round guys will contribute immediately.
There haven't been too many pick for pick trades in the top 15 this past decade. Calgary moved #14 for #21 and #42 in what was a crummy draft year in 2012. It cost the Kings #17 and #28 to move up to #12 in 2008. The Islanders managed to move up from #26 to #12 in 2009 but that took two trades and it cost them several picks (namely #37, #62, #77). And there's never a guarantee that there's a team looking to move down.
Perhaps a team like Nashville would like to add a draft pick or two to replenish the ones they've given up in recent years. Moving up from #25 to the early 20s might be more feasible than getting into the top 15.
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It's a decent package, J, but I don't see anyone in the top 10 being in a position to take it.
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T-minus 25 days until the draft lottery.
KINGS17
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The Kings don't have much depth in the system when it comes to defensemen. I would consider trying to move down a few spots if the Kings are not picking at #1 or #2, to a pick where the Kings could still pick Byram, and maybe get an extra 2nd round pick.
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Pretty unlikely Byram would play in the NHL for a year or maybe even two. He's not the physical specimen that Ekblad was when chosen. Still, Kings are gonna need a new Doughty down the line, so I wouldn't rule him out at all if he is the best player available. If we end up at the third pick, that will put the staff in a real pickle. A lot of pressure to take an offensive player with Vilardi's status unknown, unless he is making great progress in the off season and feeling better.
That mock is pretty bad for LA. A Russian that may not come over and a goalie.
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I have to admit, the more I've seen Byram, the more I like him.
He doesn't have the wow factor of Doughty, in that he's not flashy with how he gets out of trouble, but he's as solid as they come.
So I may have to be more picky or specific of how I rate some of the players. At first, I thought "eh, if the Kings get any of these forwards, they should be good." But with how Byram looks to be a top pick as well, I need to exercise more care.
He doesn't have the wow factor of Doughty, in that he's not flashy with how he gets out of trouble, but he's as solid as they come.
So I may have to be more picky or specific of how I rate some of the players. At first, I thought "eh, if the Kings get any of these forwards, they should be good." But with how Byram looks to be a top pick as well, I need to exercise more care.
SettlementRichie10
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The crop of defensemen this year is fairly weak. None of the top rated D prospects will be NHL ready by 19/20, including Byram.
I’m waiting until the lottery to determine who we should draft, obviously. It really depends on who is picking directly around us.
We have so many holes that any of the consensus #3-5 picks will be a good pick.
I’m waiting until the lottery to determine who we should draft, obviously. It really depends on who is picking directly around us.
We have so many holes that any of the consensus #3-5 picks will be a good pick.
To be fair, Spencer Knight probably is the most highly regarded goalie prospect since Andrei Vasilevskiy in 2012. Goalies can be a 4+ year development path, so it's tough to know what your goalie situation might be like that far down the road. It's amusing re-reading the hot takes on the Devils board when Mackenzie Blackwood was taken with a high 2nd round pick because he didn't address an immediate need like Daniel Sprong would have, plus Cory Schneider seemed like he was surefire #1. Fast forward less than four years and Sprong is already on his 2nd team, Schneider's had injury issues, and Blackwood is already going to be competing for a starting gig.
It's tough to know what a 36 year old Jonathan Quick is going to look like, whether Campbell will still be in the organization, or whether guys like Petersen/Villalta pan out.
I get that there's a general phobia of taking goalies with high picks because a few didn't pan out, but we also disregard how most late 1st round skaters end up being replacement level guys.
AlphaBravo
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I am ify about drafting a defenseman with our 1st. I feel that defensemen are harder to predict if their game will translate into NHL. Also, we can find solid defensemen in later rounds. If there was a Dahlin available, that’s a different story. But there isn’t one this draft.
Further, even though BPA is the best route, we desperately need high end skilled forwards. I think we can either develop, trade or sign serviceable D that can hold the fort on the second pair. In today’s NHL, you don’t need elite D to win cups regardless.
Further, even though BPA is the best route, we desperately need high end skilled forwards. I think we can either develop, trade or sign serviceable D that can hold the fort on the second pair. In today’s NHL, you don’t need elite D to win cups regardless.
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