2019 Draft Discussion

[AnThGrt]

To be fair, Spencer Knight probably is the most highly regarded goalie prospect since Andrei Vasilevskiy in 2012. Goalies can be a 4+ year development path, so it's tough to know what your goalie situation might be like that far down the road. It's amusing re-reading the hot takes on the Devils board when Mackenzie Blackwood was taken with a high 2nd round pick because he didn't address an immediate need like Daniel Sprong would have, plus Cory Schneider seemed like he was surefire #1. Fast forward less than four years and Sprong is already on his 2nd team, Schneider's had injury issues, and Blackwood is already going to be competing for a starting gig.

It's tough to know what a 36 year old Jonathan Quick is going to look like, whether Campbell will still be in the organization, or whether guys like Petersen/Villalta pan out.

I get that there's a general phobia of taking goalies with high picks because a few didn't pan out, but we also disregard how most late 1st round skaters end up being replacement level guys.

Was about to post similar. Just to add to Knight is one of the few that has legit franchise/elite potential in this draft. If drafting BPA and truly believe in that mantra then getting him at 27 would be a great pick-up.

 

[Ghetty Green]

I have a question is Byram nhl ready if we take him with our first pick? I would love to see Drew with a stud defense man that can hold his own so drew don't have to baby sit. Also how many of the forwards in this draft are nhl ready? Do we really want to have one nhl ready? i ask because i think another tank year might be the best thing for this team long term

Byram needs to be paired with doughty day 1. Have byram move into doughtys house as soon as hes drafted.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Now he’s up to 49 goals.

 

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[LAKings88]

Was about to post similar. Just to add to Knight is one of the few that has legit franchise/elite potential in this draft. If drafting BPA and truly believe in that mantra then getting him at 27 would be a great pick-up.

To be fair, Spencer Knight probably is the most highly regarded goalie prospect since Andrei Vasilevskiy in 2012. Goalies can be a 4+ year development path, so it's tough to know what your goalie situation might be like that far down the road. It's amusing re-reading the hot takes on the Devils board when Mackenzie Blackwood was taken with a high 2nd round pick because he didn't address an immediate need like Daniel Sprong would have, plus Cory Schneider seemed like he was surefire #1. Fast forward less than four years and Sprong is already on his 2nd team, Schneider's had injury issues, and Blackwood is already going to be competing for a starting gig.

It's tough to know what a 36 year old Jonathan Quick is going to look like, whether Campbell will still be in the organization, or whether guys like Petersen/Villalta pan out.

I get that there's a general phobia of taking goalies with high picks because a few didn't pan out, but we also disregard how most late 1st round skaters end up being replacement level guys.

Just not a fan of Goalies or defensive dmen in the first round. How many starting goalies were first rounders? How many of them were elite? Price? Fluery? Louongo? Vasilevskiy? Rask?

That’s what 5/31?

I think Petersen is legit. Campbell is a former 1st rounder that has finally found his game.

Just not a huge fan of taking goalies in the first.

 

[King'sPawn]

Just not a fan of Goalies or defensive dmen in the first round. How many starting goalies were first rounders? How many of them were elite? Price? Fluery? Louongo? Vasilevskiy? Rask?

That’s what 5/31?

I think Petersen is legit. Campbell is a former 1st rounder that has finally found his game.

Just not a huge fan of taking goalies in the first.

I agree.

Goalies, while they have high end talent, are mostly successful based off of mental development and focus. I think you can get solid NHL caliber goaltenders to develop much easier after the first round.

Defensive defensemen don't need high end talent. Again, these can be taken after the first. They mostly succed with strength and adaptability/coachability.

Of course, if the Kings feel a goalie is the best player available, then they should absolutely take a goalie or defensive d-man. I just think the higher end and more reliable talent should be grabbed first.

 

[bob77]

The Kings could pick as low as 6 if the season ended today. Even the worst team could pick as low as 4. So, I guess we need to feel lucky on April 9.

 

[Reaper45]

For the most part he sucked unless were to believe DT overruled him on each shitty pick.

 

[Reaper45]

The Kings could pick as low as 6 if the season ended today. Even the worst team could pick as low as 4. So, I guess we need to feel lucky on April 9.

Yep. Start lighting cigars and pouring rum for Jobu...

 

[kovacro]

Yep. Start lighting cigars and pouring rum for Jobu...

Might want to sacrifice a chicken too.

 

[Brodeur]

Just not a fan of Goalies or defensive dmen in the first round. How many starting goalies were first rounders? How many of them were elite? Price? Fluery? Louongo? Vasilevskiy? Rask?

That’s what 5/31?

I think Petersen is legit. Campbell is a former 1st rounder that has finally found his game.

Just not a huge fan of taking goalies in the first.

I think sometimes we let the term "first rounder" sound sexier than 26th overall pick. I'm not saying the Kings should use a top 10 pick on Knight, but if he were sitting there at the end of the first, that's a different scenario.

I get people get spooked by taking a goalie in the first round, but have you looked at what a typical back end of the 1st round looks like? I think we naturally cherry pick the handful of guys who pan out, but there's usually a bunch of replacement level forwards and D.

 

[Sleeping Dog]

Might want to sacrifice a chicken too.

Gotta love JoBu. Anything to help us stay in the top 2!

 

[LAKings88]

I think sometimes we let the term "first rounder" sound sexier than 26th overall pick. I'm not saying the Kings should use a top 10 pick on Knight, but if he were sitting there at the end of the first, that's a different scenario.

I get people get spooked by taking a goalie in the first round, but have you looked at what a typical back end of the 1st round looks like? I think we naturally cherry pick the handful of guys who pan out, but there's usually a bunch of replacement level forwards and D.

Maybe, maybe take him at 33.

 

[KopitarFAN]

Feeling pretty good about a Top 4 lottery position, and by extension, no worse than 7th overall. 9 & 10 points back of ANA & VAN respectively for 5th & 6th.

 

[AzKing]

The Kings aren’t going to draft a goalie with either of their top 3 picks. They have a lot of holes and goalie is not one of them.

 

[Reaper45]

I foresee a center a winger and a dman or a center and 2 dmen.

 

[bob77]

I know lots are looking at Tankathon, and the percentages. But as I found out talking with my math challenged friend, he didn’t understand the chart. The chart is AND only can show the percentages prior to the draft lottery starting. After the team that gets #1 pick is determined, all the percentages CHANGE for the drawing for #2 pick. Thus, let’s say the Kings finish 3rd overall. If the Kings don’t actually win the number 1 pick, you have to hope one of the two teams above them does so it greatly increases the chances of winning the # 2 pick. Same when it comes to the number 3 pick. If teams below us win picks, it doesn’t increase our chances much to win the next round.

 

[johnjm22]

Now he’s up to 49 goals.

Whenever I watch he always sticks out to me more than any other player including Hughes.

He's projected as a late/mid 1st rounder. He could be avalible when the Kings pick later in the 1st.

He could be a DeBrincat type who fell in the draft because of his size.

 

[King'sPawn]

I know lots are looking at Tankathon, and the percentages. But as I found out talking with my math challenged friend, he didn’t understand the chart. The chart is AND only can show the percentages prior to the draft lottery starting. After the team that gets #1 pick is determined, all the percentages CHANGE for the drawing for #2 pick. Thus, let’s say the Kings finish 3rd overall. If the Kings don’t actually win the number 1 pick, you have to hope one of the two teams above them does so it greatly increases the chances of winning the # 2 pick. Same when it comes to the number 3 pick. If teams below us win picks, it doesn’t increase our chances much to win the next round.

I don't know how the algorithm is done. It would be best to contact Tankathon to get clarity on how they compute odds. They may have already accounted for that.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Whenever I watch he always sticks out to me more than any other player including Hughes.

He's projected as a late/mid 1st rounder. He could be avalible when the Kings pick later in the 1st.

He could be a DeBrincat type who fell in the draft because of his size.

That’s exactly what I’m hoping happens. He has the qualities you described, like another Gaudreau/Skinner type who can draw attention away from his linemates. The Kings don’t have a single player with that ability.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Whenever I watch he always sticks out to me more than any other player including Hughes.

He's projected as a late/mid 1st rounder. He could be avalible when the Kings pick later in the 1st.

He could be a DeBrincat type who fell in the draft because of his size.

So reunite the Turcotte-Caulfield line? I'm on board with that!

I don't see him falling that far in this version of the NHL, feel like we'd have to trade up to get him, but I definitely get a Marner vibe from him.

 

[regulate]

The Kings aren’t going to draft a goalie with either of their top 3 picks. They have a lot of holes and goalie is not one of them.

Not sure I agree with this. Players take so much time to develop, you take the best player available. Kings have made that mistake in the past, drafting for need (Forbort is a classic example). If Knight is available at 33 I think they definitely consider it. If the Toronto pick ends up being very late in the game they may also consider it there, especially if they think someone else they covet will still be on the board a few picks later. It just depends on where they have him ranked. At the start of next season Quick will be 33, Petersen 25, Knight 18. These 7-8 year age gaps are an eternity that need to be filled, unless the Kings feel that Kehler (21), Villalta (19) both signed or Hrenak (20), Ingham (18) both unsigned have better potential than Knight. I sincerely doubt it.

Just to be clear, I'm not advocating they pick Knight, but if they have him ranked higher than other prospects when their turn comes up, they should draft him.

 

[Steve Zissou]

Whenever I watch he always sticks out to me more than any other player including Hughes.

He's projected as a late/mid 1st rounder. He could be avalible when the Kings pick later in the 1st.

He could be a DeBrincat type who fell in the draft because of his size.

I don't see him falling that far in the draft, especially given his recent milestones.

But DeBrincat went 39th overall and wasn't even slatted for the 1st round despite his scoring successes in the OHL, so who the hell knows at this point.

He's tearing it up in scoring this year with the Hawks ::cough:: wish Toffoli would take a page out his book.

 

[Papa Mocha 15]

We're good in net. No goalies in the first round please. Oh yeah, get someone good.......p...l....e...a...s...e