Frolov 6'3
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I am also curious to link of the Lucic trade.
From what I remember most of is being very excited about it too.
Perhaps, here, we are just a very excited fanbase ?!?
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From what I remember most of is being very excited about it too.
Perhaps, here, we are just a very excited fanbase ?!?
johnjm22
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I can't find the original Lucic trade thread but this is close. This is the second half of the Lucic trade thread from July 2015:I am also curious to link of the Lucic trade.
From what I remember most of is being very excited about it too.
Perhaps, here, we are just a very excited fanbase ?!?
Milan Lucic thread 2, The Looch>>>>>>The Gooch
Not to pad my self on the back, but this is my post from that thread:
Frolov 6'3
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Well seen.I can't find the original Lucic trade thread but this is close. This is the second half of the Lucic trade thread from July 2015:
Milan Lucic thread 2, The Looch>>>>>>The Gooch
Not to pad my self on the back, but this is my post from that thread:
I always think its awesome to read old posts and nonsense. On HF’s everything gets locked when you make fun of old comments. We are only allowed to talk about the future and crap on each other.
People need to be tarred and feathered IMO.
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Herby
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I can't find the original Lucic trade thread but this is close. This is the second half of the Lucic trade thread from July 2015:
Milan Lucic thread 2, The Looch>>>>>>The Gooch
Not to pad my self on the back, but this is my post from that thread:
Ha, 15 posts in and we see our "old" buddy ripping people for (correctly) questioning the trade.
Steve Zissou
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To be fair, Lucic had a pretty decent season with the Kings - finished with 20 goals and 35 assists. Kings ended up finishing 2nd in the Pacific only to be bounced by SJ in the 1st round. Lucic nearly played himself into that contract that Edmonton forked out.
Like the Kovalchuk signing with NJ, you have to at least breathe a sigh of relief that we didn't end up signing Lucic because honestly his contract is probably the worst in the NHL at the moment.
Picks for players
Penner - 1st round pick
Richards - 2nd round pick
Carter - 1st round pick
Sekera - 1st round pick
Lucic - 1st round pick
Like the Kovalchuk signing with NJ, you have to at least breathe a sigh of relief that we didn't end up signing Lucic because honestly his contract is probably the worst in the NHL at the moment.
Picks for players
Penner - 1st round pick
Richards - 2nd round pick
Carter - 1st round pick
Sekera - 1st round pick
Lucic - 1st round pick
Steve Zissou
I'll order you a red cap and a Speedo.
To make you feel even better, at least we didn't trade Teravainen for a bag of pucks -or- The Bread Man just to shed salary. Those trades got to hurt. 
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Frolov 6'3
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Thats is called the J20 Superelite.
If you talk about tearing up the U20 than I think most (at least me) would think you mean the WJC U20 as he scored 10 goals in 5 games back than.
TopT
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"A Slovenian forward who came to Sweden and blew up the U20 in his first year from home"
eh, doesnt matter
Raccoon Jesus
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HI! I'm a Canadiens fan and I'm asking other teams fans what are the first need you have to adress with your first pick. The Canadiens needs to find a winger (powerforward or goal scorer) and secondly, a top4 D. Cheers!
Steve Zissou
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A snippet from Pronman on Kirby Dach:
Projection
If Dach turned into Mark Scheifele, I wouldn’t blink. When you look at Dach’s frame, his high-end hands, his fantastic vision, his ability to play heavy minutes and the fact he skates quite well for a big man, all the components are there for him to become an impact NHL player.
There is no guarantee to that happening though. For stretches of the season he left scouts wanting, and there are debates in the industry if he has what it takes to raise his game to that highest level on a consistent basis. When he’s on, there is no doubt he can take over a game at the NHL level.
There is too much talent with Dach, and considering he still had quite an impressive season, I feel comfortable projecting him as a potential first-line center in the NHL who will be one of his team’s best playmakers and drivers.
Projection
If Dach turned into Mark Scheifele, I wouldn’t blink. When you look at Dach’s frame, his high-end hands, his fantastic vision, his ability to play heavy minutes and the fact he skates quite well for a big man, all the components are there for him to become an impact NHL player.
There is no guarantee to that happening though. For stretches of the season he left scouts wanting, and there are debates in the industry if he has what it takes to raise his game to that highest level on a consistent basis. When he’s on, there is no doubt he can take over a game at the NHL level.
There is too much talent with Dach, and considering he still had quite an impressive season, I feel comfortable projecting him as a potential first-line center in the NHL who will be one of his team’s best playmakers and drivers.
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So...once his ELC is done and gets to his 'bridge' or LT contract...it's beach time and long stretches of nothingness. If he had those tendencies in his draft year, kind of wary.
Players like Krebs and Newhook go all out every second on the ice in every game. I'd almost want to see the Kings move back some and get 1 of: Krebs, Boldy or Newhook.
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Very few players have consistency and intensity of Krebs and Turcotte.
He literally just turned 18 years old. Consistency is a normal drawback for a prospect.
Saying he'll work just hard enough to get a good contract so he can kick up his feet is a pretty concerning accusation to make without evidence to back it up.
One thing is for certain. We all at somepoint will crap on whomever the kings draft or say man they could have had ____ player who went later in the draft.
Ziggy Stardust
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Can't afford to have big misses when the team hasn't had many first round selections, and a team can't afford to miss when selecting 5th overeall in a fairly decent draft. Those types of costly mistakes will set an organization back by a few years. Like this one.
According to this site, 1981 NHL Entry Draft -- Doug Smith, he was the 7th ranked prospect and was coming off an injury. Next up was Bobby Carpenter (who the Kings would later acquire for Marcel Dionne), and Ron Francis.
Mats26
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Peyton Krebs just had surgery for achilles tendon injury that occured during a training session. Turcotte had injury issues that are well documented. How will they adapt to the grind of an 82 game + playoffs season? Smaller players that play with high energy need to play smart and pick their spots. They need to pace themselves.
Very few are are in the NHL now. i.e Brendan Gallagher, Marchand, younger Parise come to mind.
Krebs is an investment who is probably worth waiting for as he heals. It will be interesting if teams pass on him and he drops down. Teams ding guys for stupid reasons as the draft gets closer so an Achilles injury could be costly for the kid.
He was originally projected to go in that 10-15 range and more towards the earlier pick. He could theoretically drop into the 15-20 range and if that happens, the Kings should explore it to see if they can package their #22 and maybe their 3rd rounder to jump up a few spots. If he were to drop to us at #22, I wouldn't even blink on taking him there even if we already had taken a Forward. That's like getting two top 10 picks. I would not move the 2nd rounder unless it got them into the 10-15 range and a guy like Broberg or Newhook was sitting there.
He was originally projected to go in that 10-15 range and more towards the earlier pick. He could theoretically drop into the 15-20 range and if that happens, the Kings should explore it to see if they can package their #22 and maybe their 3rd rounder to jump up a few spots. If he were to drop to us at #22, I wouldn't even blink on taking him there even if we already had taken a Forward. That's like getting two top 10 picks. I would not move the 2nd rounder unless it got them into the 10-15 range and a guy like Broberg or Newhook was sitting there.
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Craig Buttons list will be different than Bob's as Button's list is more of how he thinks they'll be ranked in 5 years. Not where he thinks each player will be picked.
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I think Krebs is a little overrated. I don't see him as a top 6 forward, most likely as a good 3rd liner which still isn't bad, but not high end at all. Think people are making too much of the "Winnipeg was a terrible team and he was a great captain" story too much IMO.
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If it's down to Dach and Cozens like the rumors have been past few weeks, I'd take Dach. He's a very intelligent player, credited with one of the higher hockey IQ's in the draft. I think Cozens is a good player, but he's not a very smart player, lots of highlights of him trying to skate at defenders and just losing the puck.
I think Dach has the higher ceiling of the two, but the lower floor just basing on which Dach shows up each game, however that's not super far-fetched for a young player to be inconsistent.
My first choice is Turcotte, but he likely does not make it past 4, same with Byram most likely.
1. Turcotte
2. Byram
3. Dach
4. Zegras
is order I'd prefer Kings to go at 5.
I think Dach has the higher ceiling of the two, but the lower floor just basing on which Dach shows up each game, however that's not super far-fetched for a young player to be inconsistent.
My first choice is Turcotte, but he likely does not make it past 4, same with Byram most likely.
1. Turcotte
2. Byram
3. Dach
4. Zegras
is order I'd prefer Kings to go at 5.
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