Prospect Info: 2019 Draft Discussion: LA Kings pick 5th, 22nd overall

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kings11

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Then we’ll have a decent defensive pool at least. Byram, Clague, Seider, Durzi, Anderson, Phillips.

That doesn’t make a lot of sense though from an org perspective.
We absolutely lack size on teh Blueline and Seider would answer that.. Think better skating Erik Cernak
 
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That's what I said and I agree, we were all in for forwards now we are at 5 so things change. But the price to move to 3 is not worth it. Why would Hawks lose out on Byram and Turcotte to slide to 5? It would take a heck of an incentive for them to do that.

All depends on how thier board looks... If the leak is true, Byram wasnt even in the convo for #3.. meaning it was likely Turcotte, Dach, Cozens, Zegras... 3/4 of which should be there at #5 with the Kings taking Byram.. or do the logical thing and have the Hawks draft Byram and then take the guy they like at #5... and this is also assuming the Kings value Byram that much
 

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Devils, Hughes. NYR, Kakko. Chicago, Podkolzin. Colorado surprises us and picks Zegras, leaving us a choice of Turcotte or Byram or Dach or Cozens...

"with the 5th overall pick, the Los Angeles Kings choose....Philip Broberg!"

Blake unfolds his "Philip Broberg no matter what" paper.
 

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The top four guys are all pretty much locks.

It will be our pick where people lean in to see what happens.

There is no consensus on three and four ,the latest nhl.com mock has forwards at 3/4 and different ones to boot and worse case is we get one of Turcotte Byram Zegras all projected to be first line or top pairing. Hopefully the FO doesn’t give up to much and we get three very good players the first night
 
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I can see it now

Devils, Hughes. NYR, Kakko. Chicago, Podkolzin. Colorado surprises us and picks Zegras, leaving us a choice of Turcotte or Byram or Dach or Cozens...

"with the 5th overall pick, the Los Angeles Kings choose....Philip Broberg!"

Blake unfolds his "Philip Broberg no matter what" paper.

You Sir.... Are dead to me!!!!!
 
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Devils, Hughes. NYR, Kakko. Chicago, Podkolzin. Colorado surprises us and picks Zegras, leaving us a choice of Turcotte or Byram or Dach or Cozens...

"with the 5th overall pick, the Los Angeles Kings choose....Philip Broberg!"

Blake unfolds his "Philip Broberg no matter what" paper.

...delete this
 
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Devils, Hughes. NYR, Kakko. Chicago, Podkolzin. Colorado surprises us and picks Zegras, leaving us a choice of Turcotte or Byram or Dach or Cozens...

"with the 5th overall pick, the Los Angeles Kings choose....Philip Broberg!"

Blake unfolds his "Philip Broberg no matter what" paper.
Don't give them ideas...
 

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Every time I post anything it gets deleted before I can put it up. So without the descriptions or reasons why I will post my list for 5th pick in order as quickly as possible.

1st Turcotte
2nd Zegras
3rd Cozens
4rth Byrum
5th Dach.

Thanks to the people who emailed me asking my opinion(s). I will respond via email with my opinions and reasoning as to why I settled on these players in this order.
Zegras would fit like a glove in my opinion. But did not want to say anything since most folks were putting Cozens, Dach, Byrum ahead of Zegras and I don't know enough to compare the kids. Im interested in what u have to say about Zegras
 
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We absolutely lack size on teh Blueline and Seider would answer that.. Think better skating Erik Cernak

Pronman had this to say about Seider who he had at #22. The upside far outweighs the downside in this evaluation:

He’s got great athletic tools as a 6-foot-4 defenseman who skates well. He uses his feet to join attacks often and can make plays at speed. Seider’s main criticism from scouts is his lack of standout puck skill and that he won’t be a true power play guy in the NHL. With that said, he has decent touch and makes plays. He moves the puck well, showing great poise and instincts.

Defensively he’s a rock with his wingspan, feet and defensive acumen, and projects as a tough minutes player in the NHL. He is one of the best German prospects in recent memory.

Germany U20 coach Christian Kunast on Seider: “The most impressive thing about Moritz is that he competes every shift – when he steps on the ice he wants to win. He sees the game very well and that makes him special. He’s also a very good skater.”


Wheeler didn't like him as much in his analysis. He had him at #35:

He’s one of those players who isn’t going to wow you with his offensive upside but has proven he has the skill needed to be more than a tough-minutes option who goes off the glass and out.

His size (which still has room to become even stronger, believe it or not) and length define him but he also possesses OK puck handling ability, a wrist shot that has some whip and bend to it (he doesn’t use his slapshot all that often but his wrister comes in hard) and rapidly-improving skating to his game too.

He’s reliable in his own zone, rubs carriers out along the wall and has the skill needed to escape and exit the zone with an outlet pass. Though I wouldn’t take him in the first round, I’m not going to be surprised when a team does.
 

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Ya, no consensus at all with with who will be there for the Kings. Chicago still considering a group of 4 players at 3.

I'm of the opinion that there are obviously 2 alone in one tier, and then the next 3 in the second tier. That is why I am content with our pick. We are guaranteed to get a likely #1 d-man, a likely #1 center or an elite goal-scorer. I think the 5 is way more valuable than the 6-7-8, that is why I never wanted to move down from that spot.
 

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I can see it now

Devils, Hughes. NYR, Kakko. Chicago, Podkolzin. Colorado surprises us and picks Zegras, leaving us a choice of Turcotte or Byram or Dach or Cozens...

"with the 5th overall pick, the Los Angeles Kings choose....Philip Broberg!"

Blake unfolds his "Philip Broberg no matter what" paper.
Followed by all of us kicking our dogs, throwing the remote at the TV or flipping over a table.
 

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If we can't get Alex.......

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Then we have to take Alex........

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My hunch is that Bynum and Turcotte will go #3 and #4 (in no specific order), and the Kings will opt to go with a play driver who has the ability to make everyone on the ice a scoring threat. That player will be Trevor Zegras.

He can pass, dangle, shoot, and he's also got some scrappiness to his game as he doesn't shy away from physical hockey. He'll doggedly go after pucks, goes into corners, and uses his body to shield the puck and fend off defenders, which buys time for his linemates to get into passing lanes or prime scoring areas. Zegras also has the versatility to play wing if necessary.

Zegras also happens to wear #11 ;), and he's a really good interview as well for a kid who just turned 18 in March. He's headed to Boston University, where I don't foresee him being there past his freshman season.

It is also worth noting that Zegras had the third highest points per game average (1.24) against college opponents, after Jack Hughes and Alex Turcotte, and led the USNTDP in assists with 16 against college teams.




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From the article, impressions of Zegras from NHL scouts, teammate Jack Hughes, and his USNTDP coach.

An NHL scout said: “High-end skill, high-end creativity. He’s a very good playmaker. He can break defenders down 1-on-1, he make plays through seams with the best of them. He’s deceptive and has so much confidence it’s fun to watch.”

An NHL scout said: “Elite, elite skill. From the offensive blue line in, he’s the most dangerous player in the draft.”

An NHL scout said: “Trevor has star No. 1 center potential. He’s such a special playmaker.”

USNTDP center Jack Hughes said: “He’s the most creative player on our team. He thinks outside the box, he’s really smart and super crafty with his hands and movements. He’s really slippery. He’s an easy guy to play with knowing he’ll always give you great passes.”

USNTDP U18 coach John Wroblewski said: “He was our best power play guy at picking apart the opposition, including over Jack [Hughes]. He is that skilled. He’s very quick.”

Trevor Zegras said: “I have really good vision. I can read through things very quickly.”
 

yankeeking

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Any updates on Vilardi btw, is he alive

If Bowen is still there and we pick a center I think it may prove to be a sign that he is not healing well and they are moving on ......... or Bowen is over hyped and you can’t get enough good players, or our scouts really do sux , who the hell knows but after years of discussion and him actually watching these kids play multiple times and I have only seen them on tv I am leaning towards TG’s list and let’s be happy it’s a pretty deep draft
 
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