2019-2020 - Around the League (All non-Stars NHL Talk here)

[serp]

Vegas is struggling enough to fire their coach? I feel out of touch.

Lost 4 in a row and now out of a playoff spot and they also played most games in the playoff race with 49. They have no been good this year. With how the roster is build and how tight to the cap they are there are clearly much higher expectations.

 

[serp]

ROFL

 

[ZeHockeyFan]

That's a funny take considering most are super giddy about Gurianov being a "top 6" player who's only on 30 point pace.
He(Nichushkin) is a dime a dozen player, that can be signed for 1.5-2mil. But we don't sign them, instead we fill out the roster with 2.5+mil 30yr olds that produce at an 17p pace instead

According to a poster from maybea week ago on the Dallas Stars Regular Season thread, I guess THAT must be the (offensive) depth for which we ought to finally acquiesce and give Nill and co. due credit for putting together.

After 7 years, no less.

 

[AveryStar4Eva]

As much as I’d hate making another coaching change Gallant is extremely tempting. We’ve done well under Bowness, but Gallant’s place style is perfect for our roster.

 

[serp]

I'm personally not a fan of Gallant . He seems too much of a hothead for me. That probably has something to do with his firing as well. Don't think this was just the performance of the team. They're out of a playoff spot but just barely.

He probably pissed of the higher ups with some internal comments as well.

It's what lead to him beeing fired in Florida as well. In general he has never held a coaching position for very long despite winning quite a bit. There must be something wrong with him outside of coaching otherwise that wouldn't happen over and over again.

 

[serp]

 

[MrHeiskanen]

You can't change coaches now, no way.

 

[serp]

Bowness is clearly just the continuation of what Monty was considering how much he aparently already did when Monty was still in place. Everybody calling for another coaching change now. Would you still do it if Monty did not get fired for off-ice issues ?

The team is winning right now they are not changing the coach or the system. Offseason they might depening of what happens but right now they are not bringing in someone completely new.

 

[Sports2]

Couldn’t be mad at that hire.

 

[Johno]

You can't change coaches now, no way.

Smart thing would be to lock him up as an assistant for the rest of the season and promote him in the off-season. Get him familiar with the players and org etc.

 

[Satan]

There’s no reason why you can’t hire Gallant and keep Bowness around.

 

[serp]

Smart thing would be to lock him up as an assistant for the rest of the season and promote him in the off-season. Get him familiar with the players and org etc.

I don't see why Gallant would do that though.

There’s no reason why you can’t hire Gallant and keep Bowness around.

Pretty sure Bowness and the coaching staff only agreed to the current setup because they got promised a solid amount of job security for at least this season. If the team was losing it would be one thing but they're winning .

 

[eartotheground]

There’s no reason why you can’t hire Gallant and keep Bowness around.

as HC, assistant, or some sort of consulting/advisory role? also, would you let someone from the staff go? at some point you can have too many cooks..

 

[serp]

as HC, assistant, or some sort of consulting/advisory role? also, would you let someone from the staff go? at some point you can have too many cooks..

Gallant is not coming here as some sort of advisor . A team like the Wings will certainly reach out ( he's an old Redwings alumni probably also why Nill knows him and why he supposed wanted to hire him in 2017 only for ownership to tell him they want Hitch ) . Also its really not a good idea to have someobodies obvious replacement looking over his shoulder. That just creates confusion and anger. Bad idea.

When the Stars search for a new coach and Gallant is still an option i wouldn't mind him but currently is not that time.

 

[LT]

We’re stuck with the current crew until the offseason, barring some kind of historical collapse (which we’ve already seen in the last two years).

Not sure why Cooper might be available either.

 

[Kipper 17]

If Nil wanted the ability to hire a new coach this year he should not have specified that Bowness was going to be the interim coach for the entire year.

 

[BigG44]

Friedman confirmed what you were all saying about Nill pursuing Gallant heavily.

Gallant will have his suitors. Seattle, for one. Jim Nill pursued him hard in Dallas, although Rick Bowness has Dallas going strong — the Stars finished a season sweep of Colorado on Tuesday night. Gallant’s got a long history with Steve Yzerman, too, but there’s no predicting what he’ll do. (There are mixed reviews on his French.) Bottom line is, people respect his work. That’s two Bizarro World firings for him.

31 Thoughts: The fallout from bombshell New Jersey, Vegas firings - Sportsnet.ca

 

[BigG44]

Also from Friedman:

26. Don’t know what Dallas expected of Stephen Johns, but what a huge add he could be. Sidelined almost two years with post-concussion headaches, Johns had a goal and three assists for AHL Texas against Toronto last Saturday. His performance did not go unnoticed. The number one thing is his health; he could make a difference.

 

[serp]

Friedman confirmed what you were all saying about Nill pursuing Gallant heavily.


31 Thoughts: The fallout from bombshell New Jersey, Vegas firings - Sportsnet.ca

There's rumors out there that Nill wanted Gallant in 2017 but ownership and Lites wanted Hitch especially with the 25th anniversary. So i wouldn't be suprised that his name comes up again but right now the coaching staff is set and there's no reason to change anything. No reason to disrupt a winning team even more than what already happened with Monty.

 

[Henderson33]

If this happened the day after Monty was fired then sure, but the team is playing good so you really can't change anything.

Just hope something better comes along in the offseason.

 

[BigG44]

I'd say there's a 1% chance Nill hired a coach. I wouldn't even be surprised if ownership would veto it.

Nill's not going to lose his job before the end of the season, but I don't think he's a lock for next season either. If they somehow did miss the playoffs, he's gone. I wonder if they don't get out of the 1st round though if he might be gone as well.

It's not entirely his fault, but the team has been too tumultuous. Big blame for last seasons fiasco is on ownership ... no chance in my mind Lites wasn't just a mouthpiece. Everything else, Nill is at the center as the GM. I'm not advocating one way or the other for Nill. I just think his future is really cloudy, and I can't see ownership giving him a green light to offer a multi-year deal to a coach right now in the middle of the season.

 

[Satan]

Team Gallant AINEC

 

[BigG44]

Has it ever happened before (interim coach fired mid-season)? Jim Nill doesn't seem like a trendsetter. He's a pretty vanilla by the book guy.

He seems to make more traditional hockey decisions every single time he's given the chance. Where other teams have no problem waiving a veteran on a one-way deal being outplayed by younger guys ... he won't pull the trigger. He always makes the decision that is the path of least resistance it seems. Depth is more important than anything to him.

I don't mean any of that as an attack even though I do think it hinders the team occasionally. I had never thought about it before, but he might be the Jason Garrett of hockey. I get that also sounds like a knock, but I do only mean from the stand point of predictability and lack of imagination. They both tend to have formulas they like to stick with regardless of the results.

It would be nice to see Dallas be a little more aggressive as a whole, and from the GM down to the team .... they tend to play most things as safe as possible.

 

[Sports2]

Has it ever happened before (interim coach fired mid-season)? Jim Nill doesn't seem like a trendsetter. He's a pretty vanilla by the book guy.

He seems to make more traditional hockey decisions every single time he's given the chance. Where other teams have no problem waiving a veteran on a one-way deal being outplayed by younger guys ... he won't pull the trigger. He always makes the decision that is the path of least resistance it seems. Depth is more important than anything to him.

I don't mean any of that as an attack even though I do think it hinders the team occasionally. I had never thought about it before, but he might be the Jason Garrett of hockey. I get that also sounds like a knock, but I do only mean from the stand point of predictability and lack of imagination. They both tend to have formulas they like to stick with regardless of the results.

It would be nice to see Dallas be a little more aggressive as a whole, and from the GM down to the team .... they tend to play most things as safe as possible.

I wouldn’t really consider it a “firing”. Interim for all intents am purposes here literally means placeholder. He would just go back to being assistant.

 

[serp]

Galant would probably try to completely overhaul the system the team plays. That is not something you do midseason . They kept Montys staff intact precisely so not too much would change for the players because the team was going well. They are not bringing in someone like Gallant midseason who has a completely different philosophy as to how he wants to play. Not with the team actually winning.