2019/20 Roster Thread XXXVIII

[Captain Dave Poulin]

Torts says Hi.

... and I respond "F*** you, Torts."

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

I mean, it could still very well happen. JVR isn't exactly a dead fish just yet.

He does remind me of Flounder, though.

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

... and I respond "F*** you, Torts."

well yeah, but AV isn’t the first coach to single guys out. Not saying I agree with it but it does happen. Coaches also get to know who can and cannot handle it.
Some coaches have a shorter shelf life than others. AV deserves heat for how he coached the playoffs. But I don’t think it’s a fireable offense in season 1.

 

[Striiker]

AV deserves heat for the entire season, not just the playoffs.

He didn't go from good to bad. He went from awful to terrible beyond belief.

 

[Magua]

Right, but as soon as the Flyers signed Kev, I went on a seven-year emotional sabbatical. So you are throwing that EXTREMELY RUDE personal dart at a giant wall of apathy.

Maybe you’re two sides of the same coin. At the same time that the cosmic ancients known as “Humor” and “Nicknaming” prophesied your coming, their ancient least favorite pet dog foretold Kev’s coming with an oracle poop. Your fates are intertwined.

You and Kev are locked in a nicknaming battle to decide the nickname fate of the universe. It’s a tale of good versus evil.

 

[Adtar02]

Maybe you’re two sides of the same coin. At the same time that the cosmic ancients known as “Humor” and “Nicknaming” prophesied your coming, their ancient least favorite pet dog foretold Kev’s coming with an oracle poop. Your fates are intertwined.

You and Kev are locked in a nicknaming battle to decide the nickname fate of the universe. It’s a tale of good versus evil.

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[ajgoal]

Normally, I’d shrug it off. Players saying they want to return and the team wanting them to return are two different stories. Still might be.

But the actual Flyers account tweeting about Thompson wanting to return makes me uneasy. They’ve so far posted 2 quotes from today. A Sanheim quote about gaining experience. And Thompson wanting to hold this team hostage again. You’d think a 36 year old washed up plug free agent doesn’t merit a Flyers tweet.

I'm hoping they tweeted that out because of the bit where he says the team has a window of winning the Cup.

It's a faint hope, but I'll cling to it, tyvm.

 

[BiggE]

He does remind me of Flounder, though.

We put a lot of thought into this Kent

 

[BiggE]

Maybe you’re two sides of the same coin. At the same time that the cosmic ancients known as “Humor” and “Nicknaming” prophesied your coming, their ancient least favorite pet dog foretold Kev’s coming with an oracle poop. Your fates are intertwined.

You and Kev are locked in a nicknaming battle to decide the nickname fate of the universe. It’s a tale of good versus evil.

Hopefully Hayes never gets an infinity stone, because you know he will never pass that motherf***er

 

[deadhead]

AV deserves heat for the entire season, not just the playoffs.

He didn't go from good to bad. He went from awful to terrible beyond belief.

It's amazing how the core, despite off seasons, managed to carry the team and overcome the evil aura generated by the HC.
It couldn't be the young players, because as we know, they were permanently scarred by playing under Hakstol.
And AV buried all the rookies.
Of course, Hayes and Niskanen had nothing to do with b/c they suck.

It's just one of those miracles.

 

[Maurice of Orange]

If their are any preseason games I wanted to see if AV would try a lineup like this.
NAK with coots and neck could bring up Aube-Kubel’s point totals and Konecny seems better on Couturier’s wing.

Would also like to see Myers take over RD 1st pair with Provorov and Friedman at 3rd RD since Niskanen is UFA after the 20-21 season.

Line 1 LW Aube-Kubel C Couturier RW Konecny
Line 2 LW Giroux C Hayes RW Lindblom
Line 3 LW Farabee C Frost/Patrick RW Voracek
Line 4 LW Van Riemsdyk C Laughton RW Sandin

1st Pair LD Provorov RD Myers
2nd Pair LD Sanheim RD Niskanen
3rd Pair LD Gostisbehere RD Friedman

Goalies:
Starter: Hart
Backup: Elliott

Scratches:
LW Raffl
C Bunnaman
LD Hagg

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

You guys keep penciling in Hayes as a 2C. Don't forget to pencil us in with a 2nd round exit, at best.

 

[Striiker]

You guys keep penciling in Hayes as a 2C. Don't forget to pencil us in with a 2nd round exit, at best.

He could very quickly deserve to be forced out of the top 3 center positions if Patrick is healthy and Frost gets a chance, although that will never happen since there's no such thing as merit-based promotions/demotions on this team.

And we'll still be stuck with him through expansion and the rest of his contract.

 

[DancingPanther]

No use including Patrick in lines at this point

 

[deadhead]

Patrick would have to prove he can stay healthy AND he's worthy of the 2C slot.
And Frost has to first show he's a capable 3C before he moves up the food chain.
So you're talking 2 years from now, minimum.
Hayes will have no problem moving to wing.

 

[deadhead]

Just curious, of all the people critical of the Hayes signing, how many lobbied for them to sign Duchene?

 

[CanadianFlyer88]

Patrick would have to prove he can stay healthy AND he's worthy of the 2C slot.
And Frost has to first show he's a capable 3C before he moves up the food chain.
So you're talking 2 years from now, minimum.
Hayes will have no problem moving to wing.

I don't know why you keep saying that Frost needs to be a capable 3C first.

He could easily play with G, which would be a defacto second line at worst. AV will likely roll the top 3 three lines roughly equally in that case, anyway.

Frost could also start on the wing if Patrick is good to go.

Frost two years away is absolutely ridiculous especially if NP isn't ready.

Perpetually 2 years away.

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

Just curious, of all the people critical of the Hayes signing, how many lobbied for them to sign Duchene?

I am basically the only one who is vocally critical of him all the time, so I don't know who you think you are talking to And no, I didn't want Duchene either - if you'll recall (you won't), I thought we weren't ready to make a push yet and should wait for Frost et al to be ready. Also, I am always against UFA signings as long as we are drafting well.

 

[Chinatown88]

I am basically the only one who is vocally critical of him all the time, so I don't know who you think you are talking to And no, I didn't want Duchene either - if you'll recall (you won't), I thought we weren't ready to make a push yet and should wait for Frost et al to be ready. Also, I am always against UFA signings as long as we are drafting well.

Duchene was bad juju to me.

 

[Striiker]

I don't know why you keep saying that Frost needs to be a capable 3C first.

He could easily play with G, which would be a defacto second line at worst. AV will likely roll the top 3 three lines roughly equally in that case, anyway.

Frost could also start on the wing if Patrick is good to go.

Frost two years away is absolutely ridiculous especially if NP isn't ready.

Perpetually 2 years away.

You know why. It's to shamelessly shill for the staff.

By saying it will take a long time before Frost is ready, it gives the idiots an excuse to use him wrong this year. That way it's all Frosts fault and the coach and GM had no choice.

Unfortunately this tactic doesn't work if people watch the games and everyone knows the person attempting it is full of shit.

 

[Beef Invictus]

I never, ever want to watch Elliott and his lust for overplaying angles ever again.

 

[Maurice of Orange]

I believe Flyers management wants Frost to get more development time in the AHL playing more minutes before he gets a legitimate chance to stick with the Flyers full time.

I don’t think Frost will get a chance to stay with the Flyers if Patrick is healthy. I don’t expect to see Frost full time until the 21-22 season.
By then Hayes should be RW. It would be interesting to see Frost centering G and Hayes.

 

[Adtar02]

2 years away. From some who expected a rookie to be Barzal

 

[deadhead]

2 years away. From some who expected a rookie to be Barzal

Expect, no. Hope, sure. I'm an optimist until proven otherwise.
Frost has yet to do anything to make him a sure bet at 3C next year, so how do people project him at 2C?

Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.

 

[Adtar02]

Expect, no. Hope, sure. I'm an optimist until proven otherwise.
Frost has yet to do anything to make him a sure bet at 3C next year, so how do people project him at 2C?

Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.

This post has nothing to do with what you’ve said your expectations of a player were. And why you now don’t see first line or offensive potential. Which you stated as recently as yesterday. That was said yesterday. One more time for the folks in the back. Yesterday.

what you don’t understand is that most players. Like 95%. Improve. Instead of jumping in and being one of the best from the door.