Prospect Info: 2019-20 Oilers Prospect Thread

[Beerfish]

Koskinen played very well this year especially in the playoffs. Everyone with eyes saw a team that couldn't play defense in front of him.

Koskinen is at least as good as you can expect for the price he is paid.

Chiarelli made some bone headed moves. Giving a no move clause to Koskinen being one. But the signing itself is solid.

Wow the overrating of koskinen is out of control. If he played well in the playoffs we would still be playing. This is the stockolm syndrome with our goalies. We have had one single year of good tending in about the last decade and amazingly it was the year we made the playoffs.

We get out tended far more often than our goalie plays better than the opposition. If it is not letting in a bad goal every second game it is simply not stopping ones they need to stop (see chicagos winning goal in the last game.)

Much like last year our defense (which is no great shakes) is blamed for everything but the changes they give up need to be stopped far more often.

If we go into next year with Koskinen and some sucky guy like smith next year, no playoffs.

 

[Soundwave]

If Puljujarvi has 3 seasons as bad as AA has been defensively that would be equally impressive.

Puljujarvi could and probably will be a better player than AA if he gets his shit together. AA great goal scoring is completely offset by his otherwise poor skillset.

AA played on a historically bad Wings team, Puljujarvi would've been terrible on that team also.

This is a classic example of Oiler fans always wanting what's beyond the secret door (shiny new toy) instead of just going with a more established option, lol.

Puljujarvi has 17 total goals in three NHL seasons. Athansiou has averaged higher than that per season for the previous 3 years.

"Get his shit together" implies a lot too. Puljujarvi has really choppy stick handling, Athansiou has better hands, a better shot, and is a better skater. He's more skilled, the hype on Puljujarvi being skilled was really overblown, he's scored maybe one impressive NHL goal in his entire time here and he doesn't have the motor or desire to be a mucker type so he really has to figure out what his game is.

From what I've seen, he does not have a high end NHL caliber shot release, his skating is OK but awkward, his hands for an NHL player are not great.

 

[Aerchon]

Wow the overrating of koskinen is out of control. If he played well in the playoffs we would still be playing. This is the stockolm syndrome with our goalies. We have had one single year of good tending in about the last decade and amazingly it was the year we made the playoffs.

We get out tended far more often than our goalie plays better than the opposition. If it is not letting in a bad goal every second game it is simply not stopping ones they need to stop (see chicagos winning goal in the last game.)

Much like last year our defense (which is no great shakes) is blamed for everything but the changes they give up need to be stopped far more often.

If we go into next year with Koskinen and some sucky guy like smith next year, no playoffs.

Check Koskinen stats during the regular season. 6th in save percentage I thought I saw in another thread. 12th GAA?

He plays like that again and we are getting into the playoffs.

If the defense doesn't tip 4 or 5 pucks in and we would still be playing possibly. Or the team defense not losing its coverage every couple shifts.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

Koskinen didn't cost us the series, not even close.

 

[McDNicks17]

Check Koskinen stats during the regular season. 6th in save percentage I thought I saw in another thread. 12th GAA?

He plays like that again and we are getting into the playoffs.

If the defense doesn't tip 4 or 5 pucks in and we would still be playing possibly. Or the team defense not losing its coverage every couple shifts.

Only four guys(who are all in the Vezina conversation) played more games and had a higher SV%.

Koski was far from an issue in the regular season.

 

[CycloneSweep]

Koskinen didn't cost us the series, not even close.

Yep. Koskinen isn't the guy to stand on his head and bail out a team nightly like a Price or something. He will give you solid goaltending for roughly 50 games a season.

Defense needs to be better.

 

[Brobust]

 

[Soli]

Hmm tweet read Rasanen had 1+1 and 56% FO in a preseason game.

 

[gordonhught]

What was supposed to be here?

 

[Cloned]

Unavailable.

 

[gordonhught]

Unavailable.

Maybe it was the Oilers trading Broberg to Toronto for Anderson (G).

 

[Cloned]

Maybe it was the Oilers trading Broberg to Toronto for Anderson (G).

Don’t joke about these things.

 

[gordonhught]

Don’t joke about these things.

Shows how little faith Oilers fans have in managment that you see that and think it could be true.

 

[Cloned]

Shows how little faith Oilers fans have in managment that you see that and think it could be true.

I didn’t think it could be true but I still think you shouldn’t joke about it.

 

[Behind Enemy Lines]

Can't read the article. But the Oiler prospect pipeline for years and years was overrated by the Hockey News and other media sources largely to the high picks this franchise had forever. Even then the Oil bungled a first overall and has a fourth overall on NHL life support. However even moreso was years of subpar drafting rounds 2-7 which despite high order and high volume of picks came up snake eyes year after year. Thank goodness the Oil have shown some recent success with Bear, Jones, Lagesson graduating to the big club.

Arguably no team has done so little with so much draft currency (high picks and volume). The Oilers have under kicked its punt coverage with the most vital function to create a winning franchise.

 

[McDNicks17]

Raphaël Lavoie debuterar i kväll

Lavoie made his debut with Rogle today. Nothing noteworthy. Sounds like he played on a line lower in the lineup.

 

[LaGu]

Raphaël Lavoie debuterar i kväll

Lavoie made his debut with Rogle today. Nothing noteworthy. Sounds like he played on a line lower in the lineup.

He probably got some good minutes, coach saying he has hardly seen him yet so he wanted to get a good look. Linea are fluid in SHL, not as defined by roles as in NA, even more so in preseason of course.

Rogle (Lavoie's team) lost the game 3-2.

 

[Aceboogie]

Can't read the article. But the Oiler prospect pipeline for years and years was overrated by the Hockey News and other media sources largely to the high picks this franchise had forever. Even then the Oil bungled a first overall and has a fourth overall on NHL life support. However even moreso was years of subpar drafting rounds 2-7 which despite high order and high volume of picks came up snake eyes year after year. Thank goodness the Oil have shown some recent success with Bear, Jones, Lagesson graduating to the big club.

Arguably no team has done so little with so much draft currency (high picks and volume). The Oilers have under kicked its punt coverage with the most vital function to create a winning franchise.

Hard to argue with the rankings. they have two solid prospects in Bouchard/Broberg- but the depth of the prospect pool is pretty meh. Out of the entire prospect pool right now we probably have 1 top 2 line player, 1 middle line players and 2 bottom line players.

The Lavioes, Makimsovs. Safin, Mcleod, Benson picks are good ones, you just need 10 of them in your pipeline to get 1 who will actually work out.

 

[Aerchon]

Hard to argue with the rankings. they have two solid prospects in Bouchard/Broberg- but the depth of the prospect pool is pretty meh. Out of the entire prospect pool right now we probably have 1 top 2 line player, 1 middle line players and 2 bottom line players.

The Lavioes, Makimsovs. Safin, Mcleod, Benson picks are good ones, you just need 10 of them in your pipeline to get 1 who will actually work out.

If you are going off of statistics you are correct. However probability suggests, as does fact, that having 5 is no different than 10, in that they could all bust. The Oilers have certainly had a lot more fails than the numbers would suggest.

Along with the Oilers timeline, and also a change in our scouting, we are "due" one or two of those guys to become nhlers.

All still speculation and theroy but I'm hoping that luck/? finally comes our way and at least 2 out of that 5 become useful positive nhlers sooner than later.

 

[Fourier]

If you are going off of statistics you are correct. However probability suggests, as does fact, that having 5 is no different than 10, in that they could all bust. The Oilers have certainly had a lot more fails than the numbers would suggest.

Along with the Oilers timeline, and also a change in our scouting, we are "due" one or two of those guys to become nhlers.

All still speculation and theroy but I'm hoping that luck/? finally comes our way and at least 2 out of that 5 become useful positive nhlers sooner than later.

Probability tells you the opposite of what you are claiming. Suppose that each player has a 10% chance of becoming an NHL'er. If you have 5 you have a slightly over 40% chance of getting an NHL'er. If you have ten such players you have a 66% chance.

 

[Oilhawks]

Posted by Brobust. Did you think this was the mains?

 

[ConnorMcMullet]

I'd keep an eye out for Tomas Mazura. I think he'll turn some heads next year.

 

[ConnorMcMullet]

Dmitri Samorukov scores in the 1st shift of his 1st KHL game. It's also the 1st goal of the 2020-21 KHL season.

 

[Caser]

 

[Llamamoto]

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