Prospect Info: 2019-20 Oilers Prospect Thread

[Tkachuckycheese]

I am not acting high and mighty unless you see stating simple facts as high and mighty.

And nowhere did I say I thought he wouldn’t work out. In fact I was elated as a fan whose job isn't running a multi million dollar hockey franchise.

You have to judge what transpired by the facts behind what Columbus did and what we didn’t do. They interviewed him and had unique insight into his character. We couldn’t be bothered to even pick up a phone.

As to JPs future usefulness, time will tell but I’m now holding my breath.

You are judging now and not then when things happened and what people were thinking. But anyways I do hope JP works out for the Oilers. They need that too 6 boost.

 

[McDNicks17]

Looks like a good spot for Lavoie.

Canadian Head Coach and not a ton of competition on the wing.

This was from their preseason game yesterday:


Roster here.

Zaar is their best player. Palola had 8 points in 35 games in the KHL last year. Eriksson is a 19 year old that likely ends up on their J20 team. Matson had 16 points in 52 games last season for Rogle.


I wonder if they'll keep an eye on Tambellini and Bristedt while he's over there. Both would be solid Euro signings, IMO.

Tambo had a few decent AHL seasons then went over and posted a top 5 all-time points-per-game season in the Allsvenskan(Sweden's AHL). Bristedt has had a couple near point-per-game seasons with Rogle. He's a Yamo-esque spark plug and you can't go wrong with more Leons.

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

You are judging now and not then when things happened and what people were thinking. But anyways I do hope JP works out for the Oilers. They need that too 6 boost.

One can pass judgement now because we have the information with which to do so. Will he work out, I certainly hope so too but the player in my eyes is a 10 year old in a 22 year old body. Hopefully he has matured in his time away.

 

[BarDownBobo]

Looks like a good spot for Lavoie.

Canadian Head Coach and not a ton of competition on the wing.

This was from their preseason game yesterday:


Roster here.

Zaar is their best player. Palola had 8 points in 35 games in the KHL last year. Eriksson is a 19 year old that likely ends up on their J20 team. Matson had 16 points in 52 games last season for Rogle.


I wonder if they'll keep an eye on Tambellini and Bristedt while he's over there. Both would be solid Euro signings, IMO.

Tambo had a few decent AHL seasons then went over and posted a top 5 all-time points-per-game season in the Allsvenskan(Sweden's AHL). Bristedt has had a couple near point-per-game seasons with Rogle. He's a Yamo-esque spark plug and you can't go wrong with more Leons.

It’ll be interesting to compare him to Hoglander who went two picks after Lavoie in the draft. Hell they could even end up as line mates, stylistically I could see a fit.

 

[CycloneSweep]

It’ll be interesting to compare him to Hoglander who went two picks after Lavoie in the draft. Hell they could even end up as line mates, stylistically I could see a fit.

I'd say Hoglander is currently better but it's still early

 

[Kolja]

Looks like a good spot for Lavoie.

Canadian Head Coach and not a ton of competition on the wing.

This was from their preseason game yesterday:


Roster here.

Zaar is their best player. Palola had 8 points in 35 games in the KHL last year. Eriksson is a 19 year old that likely ends up on their J20 team. Matson had 16 points in 52 games last season for Rogle.


I wonder if they'll keep an eye on Tambellini and Bristedt while he's over there. Both would be solid Euro signings, IMO.

Tambo had a few decent AHL seasons then went over and posted a top 5 all-time points-per-game season in the Allsvenskan(Sweden's AHL). Bristedt has had a couple near point-per-game seasons with Rogle. He's a Yamo-esque spark plug and you can't go wrong with more Leons.

Just an hour drive from me! Cool!

 

[Delicious Pancakes]

Except Columbus.

I was one of the few people at the time advocating for Dubois ahead of Pulju and there definitely were some other posters (very few though) who saw it the same way. But yeah majority of people in the hockey world were on board the Pulju hype train and had him and Laine together at #2 and #3, almost interchangeable until Laine's Liiga playoffs and World's performance in the spring. I don't think you'll ever know which or how many hockey executives wouldn't have taken Pulju at 3, but Bob Mckenzie had him as the clear #3 on his final list for 2016, with Tkachuk at #4 and Dubois at #5 so it was probably a very strong majority. Jarmo was really going against the grain taking Dubois and he certainly looks smart for doing so now.

You can't just draft a guy for where he is today, you have to project their game and their potential for growth which includes attitude and character and the intangibles and unfortunately as fans we're not privy to a lot of this info. That's why the combine is so important, and if you as a GM are not interviewing as many kids as you can then wtf are you doing?

 

[gordonhught]

I was one of the few people at the time advocating for Dubois ahead of Pulju and there definitely were some other posters (very few though) who saw it the same way. But yeah majority of people in the hockey world were on board the Pulju hype train and had him and Laine together at #2 and #3, almost interchangeable until Laine's Liiga playoffs and World's performance in the spring. I don't think you'll ever know which or how many hockey executives wouldn't have taken Pulju at 3, but Bob Mckenzie had him as the clear #3 on his final list for 2016, with Tkachuk at #4 and Dubois at #5 so it was probably a very strong majority. Jarmo was really going against the grain taking Dubois and he certainly looks smart for doing so now.

You can't just draft a guy for where he is today, you have to project their game and their potential for growth which includes attitude and character and the intangibles and unfortunately as fans we're not privy to a lot of this info. That's why the combine is so important, and if you as a GM are not interviewing as many kids as you can then wtf are you doing?

I wish the Oilers had drafted Sergachev like it was rumored.

Having said that, I am guessing that a lot of JP's issues to date have been maturity issues. There may still be a player there if he comes back to the league with a different attitude.

BTW, playing with Lucic did not help him at all.

 

[ImmuneEH]

I wish the Oilers had drafted Sergachev like it was rumored.

Having said that, I am guessing that a lot of JP's issues to date have been maturity issues. There may still be a player there if he comes back to the league with a different attitude.

BTW, playing with Lucic did not help him at all.

I'm not convinced that he was an 'automatic bust'. It's entirely possible he'd be a useful, reliable, productive player if his development was handled properly. Gifting him a spot on the roster year 1 was a bad idea. May have been a wake up call if the Oilers sent him down and told him to work on his English and improve crucial aspects of his game.

It also looked like JP was terrible at taking direction. Wouldn't drive the net as much as you'd like, didn't have a North/South style, would put soft shots on net from extremely low danger areas the goalie would swallow up. I remember there was an postgame interview with TMac where he was visibly frustrated about JP. The interviewer asked him about one of JP's negative tendencies, and TMac started off by saying "We keep telling him and telling him... forget the rest of the dialogue".

He obviously lacked maturity and seemed to have entitlement issues. If he were given a wake-up call early on and the team made him earn a spot on the roster, perhaps he would have taken direction better and changed his play enough to have success in the NHL.

 

[Delicious Pancakes]

I'm not convinced that he was an 'automatic bust'. It's entirely possible he'd be a useful, reliable, productive player if his development was handled properly. Gifting him a spot on the roster year 1 was a bad idea. May have been a wake up call if the Oilers sent him down and told him to work on his English and improve crucial aspects of his game.

It also looked like JP was terrible at taking direction. Wouldn't drive the net as much as you'd like, didn't have a North/South style, would put soft shots on net from extremely low danger areas the goalie would swallow up. I remember there was an postgame interview with TMac where he was visibly frustrated about JP. The interviewer asked him about one of JP's negative tendencies, and TMac started off by saying "We keep telling him and telling him... forget the rest of the dialogue".

He obviously lacked maturity and seemed to have entitlement issues. If he were given a wake-up call early on and the team made him earn a spot on the roster, perhaps he would have taken direction better and changed his play enough to have success in the NHL.

He just shouldn't have been on the roster. He needed a year to work on his game because he was still raw but Chiarelli bought the hype that he was just as ready as Laine and Matthews and Tkachuk for that matter. It's partially on JP too but he was handled poorly from the beginning because it was the Oiler way.

 

[ImmuneEH]

He just shouldn't have been on the roster. He needed a year to work on his game because he was still raw but Chiarelli bought the hype that he was just as ready as Laine and Matthews and Tkachuk for that matter. It's partially on JP too but he was handled poorly from the beginning because it was the Oiler way.

Chia seemed oddly insistent on plugging on freshly drafted players into the line-up. It was looking like he wanted Bouchard to stay in his rookie year, but TMac put his foot down.

 

[Tobias Kahun]

I'd say Hoglander is currently better but it's still early

What a shocker.

 

[MoontoScott]

Sounds like Puls has grown up a little bit and has stopped that pouting stuff.

If he returns I wonder if the Oilers will give AA the qualifying offer or take their chances with a new and improved Puls?

 

[MoontoScott]

I haven't been following our minor league/junior goaltending prospects very much but which 2 are top rated now? Can one of them step into Smith's role next season?

 

[McDNicks17]

I haven't been following our minor league/junior goaltending prospects very much but which 2 are top rated now? Can one of them step into Smith's role next season?

Konovalov is likely the best and most NHL-ready, but he's still a few seasons away.

Skinner and Rodrigue are next and a long way off.

 

[MoontoScott]

Konovalov is likely the best and most NHL-ready, but he's still a few seasons away.

Skinner and Rodrigue are next and a long way off.

Thanks for the info but really what you are saying is that no one in the pipeline is ready to step in and with our salary cap situation no UFA's are going to be riding to the rescue either.

Looks like we have the status quo in net until Kosko's huge contract expires in 2 years.

 

[McDNicks17]

Thanks for the info but really what you are saying is that no one in the pipeline is ready to step in and with our salary cap situation no UFA's are going to be riding to the rescue either.

Looks like we have the status quo in net until Kosko's huge contract expires in 2 years.

Pretty much.

It looked like Starrett was trending towards the back up job a couple seasons ago, but he fell off a cliff last season and it sounds like they're planning on letting him go.

 

[MoontoScott]

Pretty much.

It looked like Starrett was trending towards the back up job a couple seasons ago, but he fell off a cliff last season and it sounds like they're planning on letting him go.

Thanks again for the info but a bit depressing because as we have seen in these playoffs (once again) you can't go anywhere without real major league goaltending and it doesn't look like any Oiler upgrade is in the immediate future. What a bonehead contract for a 2nd string goaltender.

Chia...the gift that keeps on giving. I know its been said a thousand times before on these threads but why would you ever hire such an idiot? I guess it might be featured in "Unsolved Mysteries" since they are now making new episodes--one of my favorite shows.

 

[Aerchon]

Thanks again for the info but a bit depressing because as we have seen in these playoffs (once again) you can't go anywhere without real major league goaltending and it doesn't look like any Oiler upgrade is in the immediate future. What a bonehead contract for a 2nd string goaltender.

Chia...the gift that keeps on giving. I know its been said a thousand times before on these threads but why would you ever hire such an idiot? I guess it might be featured in "Unsolved Mysteries" since they are now making new episodes--one of my favorite shows.

Koskinen played very well this year especially in the playoffs. Everyone with eyes saw a team that couldn't play defense in front of him.

Koskinen is at least as good as you can expect for the price he is paid.

Chiarelli made some bone headed moves. Giving a no move clause to Koskinen being one. But the signing itself is solid.

 

[North]

Pretty much.

It looked like Starrett was trending towards the back up job a couple seasons ago, but he fell off a cliff last season and it sounds like they're planning on letting him go.

Starrett never really was the same after he got injured.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

Konovalov is likely the best and most NHL-ready, but he's still a few seasons away.

Skinner and Rodrigue are next and a long way off.

What would you like to see from. Konovalov stats wise before he makes the jump to the NHL?

 

[McDNicks17]

What would you like to see from. Konovalov stats wise before he makes the jump to the NHL?

Not too sure. I'm just guessing he's at least a couple years away since he's got one more year on his KHL deal then I'm assuming he'd hit the AHL for a year after.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

Not too sure. I'm just guessing he's at least a couple years away since he's got one more year on his KHL deal then I'm assuming he'd hit the AHL for a year after.

I wonder what KHL fans would think of his current level of play vs. Koskinen's last season in the K? Skinner and Wells (at least so far) just haven't grabbed the bull by the horns yet.

 

[Soundwave]

Sounds like Puls has grown up a little bit and has stopped that pouting stuff.

If he returns I wonder if the Oilers will give AA the qualifying offer or take their chances with a new and improved Puls?

Athansiou is a way better player than Puljujarvi, he has better speed, better hands, and a better one timer/wrister than Puljujarvi.

If Jesse can ever have three seasons in the NHL as good as Athansiou's prior to this season he will be lucky.

Athanisou scored at a 20+ goal clip for the prior 3 seasons to this one.

 

[Aerchon]

Athansiou is a way better player than Puljujarvi, he has better speed, better hands, and a better one timer/wrister than Puljujarvi.

If Jesse can ever have three seasons in the NHL as good as Athansiou's prior to this season he will be lucky.

Athanisou scored at a 20+ goal clip for the prior 3 seasons to this one.

If Puljujarvi has 3 seasons as bad as AA has been defensively that would be equally impressive.

Puljujarvi could and probably will be a better player than AA if he gets his shit together. AA great goal scoring is completely offset by his otherwise poor skillset.