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MxH0CKEY said:
Who is Phil Kessel? The one who silenced the Toronto haters when he won the cup?
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This guy who looks like he is pedaling uphill with a piano on his back?

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Raccoon Jesus said:
Kind of the same for us, then. Kings have demonstrated that they're amassing youth and aren't trading Doughty or Kopitar. I think we had the same conversations up to maybe a year and a half ago--it's a half measure, does management think we're competitive, or are we tanking?--but it became pretty clear that the only real strategy was to restock the cupboard and as evidenced by the trades of guys like Toffoli and Muzzin anything not nailed down was on its way out. It looks like the organization is comfortable riding Kopitar and Drew until they turn into statues but everything else is malleable.
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I don't know the Kings prospect pool so I don't know if you have some high-end potential players ready to join the Kings in the next year or two. If there are a few prospects ready to supplement Kopitar and Doughty before your two superstars decline, then maybe it will work out. At least with the #2 pick you will get a top-end player that should be ready to contribute within that time frame.

The problem on the Hawks is their d-corps is either old, declining or injury prone (Keith/Seabrook/deHaan/Murphy) or still too green (Boqvist/Mitchell/Beaudin) or a bunch of 6/7 guys. The forward situation is in much better shape but with that d-corps, Crawford getting older and UFA and no sure-fire goalies in the pipeline, it looks like a lot more wandering around in the wilderness for the foreseeable future.

BTW - is there consensus among the fan base on Byfield being your pick?
 
EbonyRaptor said:
I don't know the Kings prospect pool so I don't know if you have some high-end potential players ready to join the Kings in the next year or two. If there are a few prospects ready to supplement Kopitar and Doughty before your two superstars decline, then maybe it will work out. At least with the #2 pick you will get a top-end player that should be ready to contribute within that time frame.

The problem on the Hawks is their d-corps is either old, declining or injury prone (Keith/Seabrook/deHaan/Murphy) or still too green (Boqvist/Mitchell/Beaudin) or a bunch of 6/7 guys. The forward situation is in much better shape but with that d-corps, Crawford getting older and UFA and no sure-fire goalies in the pipeline, it looks like a lot more wandering around in the wilderness for the foreseeable future.

BTW - is there consensus among the fan base on Byfield being your pick?
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We have a few Grade A(Vilardi, Turcotte, Byfield?, Kaliyev), Tons of Grade B(Thomas, Bjornfot, Clague, Grundstrom, Kupari, couple others). If Blake plays his cards right and packages a couple of these mid tier spects for Established players that have fallen out of favor for their teams, the Kings should be a playoff team next season. Has to be the right fit obviously but it is very possible imo. Kopitar and Doughty will contend for another cup in 2 YEARS
 
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MxH0CKEY said:
Kings fans are chirping proven goal scorers/winners.... Our fanbase of all fanbases?
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That particular .gif has a history around here, and has been posted before Kessel won anything. Of course Kessel is a proven goal scorer. At the peak of his game, he didn't fit the Kings style very well.
 
EbonyRaptor said:
I don't know the Kings prospect pool so I don't know if you have some high-end potential players ready to join the Kings in the next year or two. If there are a few prospects ready to supplement Kopitar and Doughty before your two superstars decline, then maybe it will work out. At least with the #2 pick you will get a top-end player that should be ready to contribute within that time frame.

The problem on the Hawks is their d-corps is either old, declining or injury prone (Keith/Seabrook/deHaan/Murphy) or still too green (Boqvist/Mitchell/Beaudin) or a bunch of 6/7 guys. The forward situation is in much better shape but with that d-corps, Crawford getting older and UFA and no sure-fire goalies in the pipeline, it looks like a lot more wandering around in the wilderness for the foreseeable future.

BTW - is there consensus among the fan base on Byfield being your pick?
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Most like Byfield in that slot. I do as well.
 
MxH0CKEY said:
We have a few Grade A(Vilardi, Turcotte, Byfield?, Kaliyev), Tons of Grade B(Thomas, Bjornfot, Clague, Grundstrom, Kupari, couple others). If Blake plays his cards right and packages a couple of these mid tier spects for Established players that have fallen out of favor for their teams, the Kings should be a playoff team next season. Has to be the right fit obviously but it is very possible imo. Kopitar and Doughty will contend for another cup in 2 YEARS
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Dude, you are a complete and total heretic. The Kings need to keep sucking as long as possible to keep that pipeline full. Rebuilding indefinitely is the way to go. Its been the successful formula for so many other teams.
 
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MxH0CKEY said:
We have a few Grade A(Vilardi, Turcotte, Byfield?, Kaliyev), Tons of Grade B(Thomas, Bjornfot, Clague, Grundstrom, Kupari, couple others). If Blake plays his cards right and packages a couple of these mid tier spects for Established players that have fallen out of favor for their teams, the Kings should be a playoff team next season. Has to be the right fit obviously but it is very possible imo. Kopitar and Doughty will contend for another cup in 2 YEARS
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Highly unlikely the Kings will contend for the cup if two years. They would be fortunate to make the playoffs with the likes of Vegas, Edmonton, Vancouver, and Calgary in the Pacific Division. Cup contenders have considerably deeper blue lines than the Kings will have within two seasons.
 
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KINGS17 said:
Highly unlikely the Kings will contend for the cup if two years. They would be fortunate to make the playoffs with the likes of Vegas, Edmonton, Vancouver, and Calgary in the Pacific Division. Cup contenders have considerably deeper blue lines than the Kings will have within two seasons.
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All of the aforementioned teams will not have a blueline like the Kings have in 2 years barring any major UFA signings with something like Piets coming to our division or something crazy. With the exception of MAYBE Quentin Hughes, those teams you mentioned will not even have a defenseman that is comparable to Doughty. Maybe you didn't watch the last 7 games but the blueline was working fine.
 
MxH0CKEY said:
All of the aforementioned teams will not have a blueline like the Kings have in 2 years barring any major UFA signings with something like Piets coming to our division or something crazy. With the exception of MAYBE Quentin Hughes, those teams you mentioned will not even have a defenseman that is comparable to Doughty. Maybe you didn't watch the last 7 games but the blueline was working fine.
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I saw improvement in the last seven games. I didn't see a Stanley Cup contending team.
 
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KINGS17 said:
I saw improvement in the last seven games. I didn't see a Stanley Cup contending team.
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In 2 years you will.. It is vital we push hard now before some of these younger guys start making big money. Insert a couple UFA/Trade guys with them and again you will see a playoff team NEXT season. Don't have to deplete the pipeline in this process. We honestly have the deepest pool of any team in YEARS.

Keeping cup contenders Avs, Leafs, Vegas to 1 goal twice, shutout, 1 goal respectively in that span had to look nice. Will def be ups and downs next season still no doubt.
 
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MxH0CKEY said:
In 2 years you will.. It is vital we push hard now before some of these younger guys start making big money. Insert a couple UFA/Trade guys with them and again you will see a playoff team NEXT season. Don't have to deplete the pipeline in this process. We honestly have the deepest pool of any team in YEARS.
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Next year is going to be a weird season - late start, fewer games?, etc - so, there might be some teams getting into the playoffs that might not normally be. That said, I see the Kings improving next year. Shouldn’t be in the bottom 4-5 teams Like this year, but doubtful they make the playoffs either. A move from 28 (4th worst) to 20 (better, but still miss the playoffs) should be achievable.
The future looks bright, but there’s still a lot of work to do to become a Cup competitor.
 
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Bandit said:
I mean, Kessel scored over 30 goals 5 times before he won the cup, and all that took was being on a team with Crosby & Malkin. Not sure his career trajectory is the shining beacon you'd want to bank on.
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He still played a major role, I can see Boeser fitting the mold. Kessel had players in BOS but not a lot of help in Toronto imo. But sure moving to play with Sid and Geno helps a ton, no denying that. Too soon to say in ARZ but he's aged a bit.
 
MxH0CKEY said:
In 2 years you will.. It is vital we push hard now before some of these younger guys start making big money. Insert a couple UFA/Trade guys with them and again you will see a playoff team NEXT season. Don't have to deplete the pipeline in this process. We honestly have the deepest pool of any team in YEARS.

Keeping cup contenders Avs, Leafs, Vegas to 1 goal twice, shutout, 1 goal respectively in that span had to look nice. Will def be ups and downs next season still no doubt.
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Ever hear of sneaking up on a good team during the regular season? The sun shines on every dog's ass once in a while.
 
MxH0CKEY said:
The consistency part of it though, even prior to the 7 game streak, they were playing some good hockey from top to bottom.
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Yeah, and that's all good. The Kings just aren't a team that is built to win 7-game series just yet.

If they draft Byfield, let's see where they are in a few years. I see a future with:

Byfield
Vilardi
Turcotte
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as pretty damn good. Not sure they will get there in time for Kopitar to participate in the glory, but it could happen.
 
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KINGS17 said:
Yeah, and that's all good. The Kings just aren't a team that is built to win 7-game series just yet.

If they draft Byfield, let's see where they are in a few years. I see a future with:

Byfield
Vilardi
Turcotte
???

as pretty damn good. Not sure they will get there in time for Kopitar to participate in the glory, but it could happen.
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Well it's a good thing for trades then. Also a good thing we have a S*** ton of assets we could use too. Pursuing UFAs is another thing, often leads to giving out overpayments but a couple have helped us in our previous cup runs.
 
KINGS17 said:
Yeah, and that's all good. The Kings just aren't a team that is built to win 7-game series just yet.

If they draft Byfield, let's see where they are in a few years. I see a future with:

Byfield
Vilardi
Turcotte
???

as pretty damn good. Not sure they will get there in time for Kopitar to participate in the glory, but it could happen.
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If the Kings aren't contending by the 2024 playoffs, that would be a total failure of a rebuild.
 
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tbrown33 said:
If the Kings aren't contending by the 2024 playoffs, that would be a total failure of a rebuild.
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The 2024 playoffs and contention is a far more reasonable expectation. This is Blake's third draft. Keep in mind Lombardi took six years to get there, and Blake probably started with less talent in the system.
 
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