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Personally dont like amido on the team. He is a bottom 6 player, and there are better bottom 6 with more character and bring more to the locker room than he does.
 
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AlphaBravo said:
I think we have seen enough of Amadio to know that he is not going to be a top 6 talent. We have a backlog of bottom 6 guys. There is no need to keep Amadio and Lewis around. Luff hasn't shown anything special either, other than speed. I like Lizzote and Wagner a lot for our bottom 6. Ideally, we see Carter moving to wing on the second line to mentor a young center like Vilardi or Turcotte, or we move Carter down as 3C. The biggest challenge is what to do with Kaliyev. It is time for him to go pro, but he can't play in the AHL. It would be nice to keep Turcotte and Kaliyev together in the AHL with our other young talent.
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Seems like Lewis is going to go. They've been getting rid of everyone from the past that they've been able to. No reason Lewis would be spared. Amadio, they'll give him another year. 24, still under contract. There's no rush. If someone even younger beats him out, then that's that. If not, he's at least a warm body that you don't have to waste time to go out and look for.
 
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Let’s sign Krug and trade for Eichel and get this show on the road.

Iafallo - Kopitar - Brown
Kempe - Eichel - Carter
Grundstrom - Vilardi - Frk
Wagner - Lizotte - Moore

Krug - Doughty
Anderson - Roy
Clague - Walker

Petersen
Quick
 
Another question I’ve been thinking about is which of our centers are most likely going to be moved to the wing?

Turcotte
Vilardi
Kupari
Anderson-Dolan
Madden
Thomas
 
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Have we ever heard what injury Carter was dealing with? Can we be lucky enough that he's LTIR bound for the remainder of his contract?
 
Ziggy Stardust said:
The only info we got was said to be lower body, unrelated to his sliced tendon. Safe assumption, groin injury.
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I read about a month ago he is still not skating so I would bet we've seen his last shift in the NHL. I think he will be shuffled to LTIR. And before somebody dissects my post I'll go ahead and say this is all my opinion and I have nothing to base it on.
 
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The Tikkanen said:
I read about a month ago he is still not skating so I would bet we've seen his last shift in the NHL. I think he will be shuffled to LTIR. And before somebody dissects my post I'll go ahead and say this is all my opinion and I have nothing to base it on.
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I figured it would happen sooner or later. Either from the tendon or the past foot injuries.
 
The Tikkanen said:
I read about a month ago he is still not skating so I would bet we've seen his last shift in the NHL. I think he will be shuffled to LTIR. And before somebody dissects my post I'll go ahead and say this is all my opinion and I have nothing to base it on.
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I remember this as well, it was in one of the Q+As I believe, I was shocked when they just let it slip and there was no follow up :laugh: Basically he was rehabbing and if the season were to restart for the Kings he wouldn't have played is what I recall.

I'm not sure he'll be LTIRetired though, dude is pretty proud, I think he'll give it one more go.
 
Raccoon Jesus said:
I remember this as well, it was in one of the Q+As I believe, I was shocked when they just let it slip and there was no follow up :laugh: Basically he was rehabbing and if the season were to restart for the Kings he wouldn't have played is what I recall.

I'm not sure he'll be LTIRetired though, dude is pretty proud, I think he'll give it one more go.
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I’ve been wondering what a full year off would do for NHL players. If he was on LTIR next year and came back the following year, would he be better or worse off? We’ve seen it the last couple years in the NFL, with Lynch and Bell coming to mind.

I wouldn’t mind a year of rehab for Carter and have him come back for his last season. I could even see us re-signing him on one year deals if he is motivated and playing well.
 
Raccoon Jesus said:
I remember this as well, it was in one of the Q+As I believe, I was shocked when they just let it slip and there was no follow up :laugh: Basically he was rehabbing and if the season were to restart for the Kings he wouldn't have played is what I recall.

I'm not sure he'll be LTIRetired though, dude is pretty proud, I think he'll give it one more go.
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I agree, he will play if he possibly can. I have to respect that.
 
I won't mind waiting to see what a healthy 35 (not 45) year old Carter looks like. I'm also wondering how long he's been dealing with this. The first sign to me that perhaps he was nursing an upper body issue is two years ago (IIRC). He scored on a breakaway in the slot but instead of his patented wrister he took a slapshot. That one even took Fox aback. Nevertheless, it has been a while since his wrister has had any real zip on it.
 
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Johnny Utah said:
Surprised Wagner isn't getting more love. 12 goals his first year and 6 his second year - he can fly and has grit.

He should be an everyday player.
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He played almost every game, but we have too many third and fourth liners on the roster that can't score.

If hockey was about breakaways and shooting the puck in to the goalie's chest, wagner would be f***ing Gretzky

But between Lizotte, Amadio, Wagner, Prohorkin, and Moore we have too many of those guys. I should add in Kempe too, but he actually broke the 10 goal barrier.
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Lizotte and Prohorkin have the most upside of that group.

Moore and Wagner are similar, but Moore has never put up more than a few goals.

Amadio is the third tier - he's just a plug.
 
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LT Dan said:
He played almost every game, but we have too many third and fourth liners on the roster that can't score.

If hockey was about breakaways and shooting the puck in to the goalie's chest, wagner would be f***ing Gretzky

But between Lizotte, Amadio, Wagner, Prohorkin, and Moore we have too many of those guys. I should add in Kempe too, but he actually broke the 10 goal barrier.
I left of Lewis because I don't expect him back
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This sounds like NYC Lt. Dan talking and not space shuttle leg Lt. Dan.

Wagner might be the fastest player in the league. We can talk about guys like Kempe bringing speed but nobody is coming close to Wagner. If we have a bunch of dudes that are bottom six players because they can't score, give me someone with an elite trait over a JAG.

Beyond the speed, he led the team in hits and was 8th in takeaways. He also has some jam to his game and will get in the odd scrap, something that is basically non-existent in the current group of forwards since Clifford's departure.

He had an unsustainable 18% shooting percentage in 2019 when he potted 12 goals. He was at 5% for this past season. He definitely isn't the 18% guy but he may not be the 5% guy either. With the amount of breakaways and rushes he can generate with that speed, however, it doesn't take much for that 5% to notch up a tad to where he is a 10 goal guy. 10 goals at 11 minutes a game while leading the team in hits? Sign me up all day long.

Out of all those guys you listed, I'd take him over all of them.
 
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BigKing said:
This sounds like NYC Lt. Dan talking and not space shuttle leg Lt. Dan.

Wagner might be the fastest player in the league. We can talk about guys like Kempe bringing speed but nobody is coming close to Wagner. If we have a bunch of dudes that are bottom six players because they can't score, give me someone with an elite trait over a JAG.

Beyond the speed, he led the team in hits and was 8th in takeaways. He also has some jam to his game and will get in the odd scrap, something that is basically non-existent in the current group of forwards since Clifford's departure.

He had an unsustainable 18% shooting percentage in 2019 when he potted 12 goals. He was at 5% for this past season. He definitely isn't the 18% guy but he may not be the 5% guy either. With the amount of breakaways and rushes he can generate with that speed, however, it doesn't take much for that 5% to notch up a tad to where he is a 10 goal guy. 10 goals at 11 minutes a game while leading the team in hits? Sign me up all day long.

Out of all those guys you listed, I'd take him over all of them.
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You would take him over Lizotte?

No way jose on my end. Lizotte is a way better two player , had 11 more points in the same number of games . Lizotte is one of our better face off men and if you are a Star Wars fan, you can make Blake Lasat jokes
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LT Dan said:
You would take him over Lizotte?

No way jose on my end. Lizotte is a way better two player , had 11 more points in the same number of games . Lizotte is one of our better face off men and if you are a Star Wars fan, you can make Blake Lasat jokes
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Yep. Lizotte's production last season is basically the same as Wagner's from the year before but with more ice time.

I don't dislike Lizotte and actually like him a lot more after the off-ice work ethic stuff was talked up. I just prefer the elite speed and size of Wagner.
 
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