2019-20 Kings News/Rumors

[Lt Dan]

Yeah I think Carcillo is mixing some things together. That was a dick move by Darryl and I’m sure it triggered DC because a concussion was involved, but it’s a far cry from abuse.

Compare that to Andy Murray not letting the injured players even see the rest of the team.

Is it any different?

 

[YP44]

Mike Commodore played for both Darryl Sutter and Mike Babcock, and look at the unflattering stuff he’s said about Babcock. I’ve yet to see him say anything derogatory about Sutter, and the only one making outlandish claims is a little **** stain who was barely even around Sutter.

on the fan 960 he talked today about playing for hitchcock too. How much of a hard ass he was but how good of a coach he was and how good of a person he is.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

I miss Ziggy.

 

[YP44]

I miss Ziggy.

Me too.
remember going to games at the dome where it was Ziggy vs Iggy

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Can anyone recall the last time the Kings had a player lead the league in goals and points at any point? Ziggy may have been the last player to accomplish that feat.

 

[Sol]

Ziggy was my favorite King for a long time.

 

[YP44]

Ziggy was my favorite King for a long time.

Me too

 

[Bandit]

Compare that to Andy Murray not letting the injured players even see the rest of the team.

Is it any different?

Thst was a dick move too. Like I said, dick move, not abuse though. I’m sure Carcillo is triggered on that incident because it’s concussion related.

Can anyone recall the last time the Kings had a player lead the league in goals and points at any point? Ziggy may have been the last player to accomplish that feat.

Mr. Taken For Granted. aka Kopitar.

 

[YP44]

No Freidman 31 thoughts this week?

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

No Freidman 31 thoughts this week?

He must have a lot to cover and skipped on one this week, given the crazy events that have taken place this week. They did upload a 31 Thoughts podcast earlier in the week, which was an interview with Ron Francis before the Bill Peters news dropped.

 

[KingsFan7824]

They could never get enough depth to take full advantage of getting Palffy.

 

[ibleedkings]

Remember when Dean said something like it was the wrong move for the kings to acquire Palffy? I lol'd.

 

[SFKingshomer]

Remember when Dean said something like it was the wrong move for the kings to acquire Palffy? I lol'd.

He was right. Where did he get them? There's always a wrong and right time to add a player, see Carter vs Lucic.

 

[ibleedkings]

He was right. Where did he get them? There's always a wrong and right time to add a player, see Carter vs Lucic.

Bullshit! We haven't had a player like him since he left. Was a treat to watch him and the LAPD line, and who knows what would of happened had Allison and Deadmarsh stayed healthy. Was absolutely the right move getting Palffy.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

He was right. Where did he get them? There's always a wrong and right time to add a player, see Carter vs Lucic.

What did Ziggy cost the Kings? They got significantly better after adding him (and Smolinski). Jokinen wouldn’t break out until he got his ass whipped into shape under Mike Keenan, and Jokinen only appeared in 6 career playoff games. To suggest the Kings would have been better not making that trade is downright silly. Maybe you can tell us where Jokinen got the teams he played on.

 

[Martyros]

Phaneuf is ready and taking calls according to Phaneuf.

we're going to have to overpay, he's still got 10 callers!

 

[Martyros]

Wasn't that the game that Blake also got a hattrick?

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Wasn't that the game that Blake also got a hattrick?

That was a different game that happened at Staples Center, and ended up in a tie. I remember Lubomir Visnovsky getting a breakaway in OT and being stopped by Kirk McLean.

 

[AnThGrt]

What did Ziggy cost the Kings? They got significantly better after adding him (and Smolinski). Jokinen wouldn’t break out until he got his ass whipped into shape under Mike Keenan, and Jokinen only appeared in 6 career playoff games. To suggest the Kings would have been better not making that trade is downright silly. Maybe you can tell us where Jokinen got the teams he played on.

Guess McDavid sucks too as look at how far he has gotten Edmonton! Horrible logic and reasoning. I'd do that trade over and over yet the argument placed is straight asinine.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Guess McDavid sucks too as look at how far he has gotten Edmonton! Horrible logic and reasoning. I'd do that trade over and over yet the argument placed is straight asinine.

Do you realize I responded to someone who asked where did Ziggy get the Kings?

 

[Dexter Sinister]

This is an earlier tweet from Carcillo describing the Matt Greene bit:



I mean, it was lame of Sutter, and I can see why Carcillo didn't like it, but it's not beyond the pale or anything.

It said that he kicked Greene out of the room because he was injured. Ins't that pretty standard practice by NHL clubs, to not have the injured players around the team, so the team can concentrate on the games?

 

[Dexter Sinister]

The reason those of us are choosing to believe Penner over Carcillo is that 1. Penner was around the team and around Sutter longer and would have seen more things. And 2. Penner wasn't a dirty player that tried to end peoples careers and now uses twitter to rail against the very thing he caused while he played - CONCUSSIONS!

 

[KingsFan7824]

What did Ziggy cost the Kings? They got significantly better after adding him (and Smolinski). Jokinen wouldn’t break out until he got his ass whipped into shape under Mike Keenan, and Jokinen only appeared in 6 career playoff games. To suggest the Kings would have been better not making that trade is downright silly. Maybe you can tell us where Jokinen got the teams he played on.

I don't know if it's necessarily about whether the Kings would've better without the trade. If DL said that, I know I've had to same thought. Open a new building, you get a name player, sell some extra jerseys, etc. Had it been the potential nixed trade, the one that involved Barney, or Rosa, or whatever that lesser deal was, that wouldn't have been bad. At least they keep Jokinen to add to the depth. To trade 3 of the better prospects in the organization(although 2 of them never did anything), plus a known top 10 pick(in what would become one of the all time worst drafts), was a lot for a team that had just started rebuilding a very barren prospect pool post-Gretzky.

If they're going to go for Palffy, they have to then go all in after that, but they didn't. They signed Schneider in 2000, but other than him, they didn't keep adding to the team. They got Deadmarsh and Miller, but had to trade Blake and Reinprecht to do so. They got Allison, and Eloranta was ok, but had to trade Stumpel and Murray to do so. Had they added some of those guys, while retaining talent, they might've had something. Plus they weren't very good at drafting, so they had no young guys coming in to help. Frolov's first year was 02-03, and that was the year Allison and Deadmarsh disappeared forever. It was always one guy in, one guy out. They got better with Palffy, and Smolinski, but that's as far as it went. They had a fun run in 2001, but they were outside of the playoffs when they traded Blake, and then they were also down 3-1 to the Avs, and the Wings lost Yzerman and Shanahan during the 1st round.

 

[Statto]

I loved Palffy and wish I’d seen him live and I can as not regret the move for one moment. However it never seemed to be part of a proper plan to make us real contenders.

 

[Dexter Sinister]

Deadmarsh, Palffy and Potvin are still my all-time favorite Kings. Was never a fan of Luc or Blake.