2019-20 Kings News/Rumors

[YP44]

Honestly, the Kings are doing much better signing College free agents, than drafting players!
Iafallo, Walker, Lizzotte, Petersen can all play....and Roy is doing okay. He had a rough start, but better of late. Brickley is not to be written off yet. I think the Kings should add a few extra scouts,
just to scour the college ranks and maybe an extra Euro scout, to find talent there too. Of course, the last 3 drafts will indeed produce some NHL players - many of them good ones.

Sure, most teams know who the better free agents are - but many did not know Lizotte would sign - as he was finishing up his Sophomore season. Somehow, the Kings were able to get to him.
They have a good track record here and may be able to convince some more to sign, showing them they can get fast tracked to the NHL.

What? Kings recent drafting is what is giving me hope.

 

[kings11]

I stand corrected but we’ll see how long before he does his annual disappearance act.

It also helps when you already had help in the form of a Leon Draisaitl.. The fact that na guy like Brown can have a resurgence once he's paired with Kopi speaks volumes.. same goes for Gaborik
Kopitar was at his best when Richards had Carts on his wing and Stoll had JDub on his.. well everyone had JDub lol but the lack of quality has done this team in unless guys like Vilardi, Turcotte, Bjornfot, Anderson and what lloks to be a top 5 pick can step in over the next 2 seasons.. which is possible and we'll have enough cap psace to bring in valuable, steady vets... That is of course, if you think/trust that Blake and Co can pull it off..

 

[Fat Elvis]

11 points and DFL

Difficult to imagine it could get much worse. Stay the course, "thousand points of light"...

Changes are coming and times will be better. We're Kings fans. We can handle this because we've been thru worse. Chin up

 

[YP44]

I have been more entertained this season wathcing kings games than last. Maybe that is because my expectations were tempered

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

 

[YP44]

Good to see but I want to see Prok in a couple of games with Lewis out.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Good to see but I want to see Prok in a couple of games with Lewis out.

 

[DryIslandBartender]

DL gave Quick, Brown, and Gaborik bad contracts. He went all in in Kopitar's UFA year. Even if it was $64m over 8, that does that make it any better? Does that make the team any better? Is that $2m the difference between crap and contender? There's no contract for Kopitar at that point that would've been a positive, and DL wasn't going to let him go. It would've been completely out of character. Look what he did with Bishop.

Let me ask you this, would you pay the full asking price on a new car? Why?

Same concept here. Why are you so sure that the extra 2 million or less term isn’t important? On one hand you are arguing that it’s a hard cap league and nobody wants these bloated contracts, on the other it doesn’t matter what Kopitar’s contract was, give him 8 years 80 million. So what?

It’s not about 2 million aav and what player you get for that amount, it’s about creating flexibility for the roster.

 

[tny760]

nice to see the kempe benching, wish big mac could stick a spot but i guess the guys gotta rotate in somehow

not sure how i feel about luff being called up, i know he's been doing well in the A but i'm not he really has a spot on the NHL roster unless he can make it translate

 

[bouncesonly]

Let me ask you this, would you pay the full asking price on a new car? Why?

Same concept here. Why are you so sure that the extra 2 million or less term isn’t important? On one hand you are arguing that it’s a hard cap league and nobody wants these bloated contracts, on the other it doesn’t matter what Kopitar’s contract was, give him 8 years 80 million. So what?

It’s not about 2 million aav and what player you get for that amount, it’s about creating flexibility for the roster.

Weak analogy. Not every player in the NHL is a Camry or Ford pickup. Some are going to command full price because they're unique, limited, in-demand, exceptional performance, etc. But maybe you don't understand that cause you're concept of a car is just a Camry or Ford pickup truck

 

[bouncesonly]

I have been more entertained this season wathcing kings games than last. Maybe that is because my expectations were tempered

Is the draft for 2020 considered as good or better than 2019? What's the point of sucking for nothing, especially when you have trouble scoring goals.

 

[YP44]

kempe out...intersting

 

[YP44]

Is the draft for 2020 considered as good or better than 2019? What's the point of sucking for nothing, especially when you have trouble scoring goals.

I believe deeper if that helps.

 

[Little Psycho]

Good. Kempe needs some time to reflect.

 

[DryIslandBartender]

Weak analogy. Not every player in the NHL is a Camry or Ford pickup. Some are going to command full price because they're unique, limited, in-demand, exceptional performance, etc. But maybe you don't understand that cause you're concept of a car is just a Camry or Ford pickup truck

No, I understand that just about everything is negotiatiable and even those luxury/unique cars you speak of are negotiable.

 

[bland]

It also helps when you already had help in the form of a Leon Draisaitl.. The fact that na guy like Brown can have a resurgence once he's paired with Kopi speaks volumes.. same goes for Gaborik
Kopitar was at his best when Richards had Carts on his wing and Stoll had JDub on his.. well everyone had JDub lol but the lack of quality has done this team in unless guys like Vilardi, Turcotte, Bjornfot, Anderson and what lloks to be a top 5 pick can step in over the next 2 seasons.. which is possible and we'll have enough cap psace to bring in valuable, steady vets... That is of course, if you think/trust that Blake and Co can pull it off..

The Brown that went pointless in 8 straight games with Kopitar before producing again after getting demoted?

 

[bouncesonly]

I believe deeper if that helps.

Deeper? Fire McLellan. Bring back Willie, now!

 

[YP44]

Deeper? Fire McLellan. Bring back Willie, now!

when i hear a draft is deeper I just think that the later round picks are going to be worth more. could mean that there are more Tier 2/3 type of picks. So for me I just want Blake to stock as many 1st and 2nd round picks as possible.

The losing and lottery will take care of it self.

 

[bouncesonly]

No, I understand that just about everything is negotiatiable and even those luxury/unique cars you speak of are negotiable.

I'm sure you think you're in a position to go into a Ford dealership in Southern California, and believe a Raptor's negotiable. Or a 4Runner TRD Pro is negotiable at a Toyota dealership. But that's the thing....you're the only person who thinks they're negotiating. So no, I don't think you understand the current situation. Maybe one day, those players and these cars can get what you feel are fairly negotiated prices. But not right now.

 

[kings11]

The Brown that went pointless in 8 straight games with Kopitar before producing again after getting demoted?

You mean the same Brown that's had 2 conseutive 20 goal seasons since? That Brown? that ebenfitted from Kopitar's play? The same Brown who will likley clip that 20 goal mark again this season when he eventually returns to the top line??

 

[kings11]

Is the draft for 2020 considered as good or better than 2019? What's the point of sucking for nothing, especially when you have trouble scoring goals.

Much, Much better and deeper...
10-ish game changing type prospects.. Wingers, Center, Dman and even a Goalie

 

[TruKingFan]

Good. Kempe needs some time to reflect.

On his hair in front of a mirror??

 

[Little Psycho]

On his hair in front of a mirror??

Duhh. What else would I be talking about?

 

[DryIslandBartender]

I'm sure you think you're in a position to go into a Ford dealership in Southern California, and believe a Raptor's negotiable. Or a 4Runner TRD Pro is negotiable at a Toyota dealership. But that's the thing....you're the only person who thinks they're negotiating. So no, I don't think you understand the current situation. Maybe one day, those players and these cars can get what you feel are fairly negotiated prices. But not right now.

That’s funny.

Actually hilarious because I’ve actually negotiated for a 2019 TRD premium 4Runner. Was it easy? No and it took time but I got $$$ shaved off and thousands in extras thrown in.

It all depends on your perception of value and money.

 

[Statto]

McDavid has been playing on trash teams since being in the NHL and still has decent production. We’ve heard for many years, essentially since Kopitar has been in the league that he’s not producing because he doesn’t have x,y,z.

They aren’t producing because of the coaches, management won’t get them the right line mate. Every year there’s an excuse. I’m tired of hearing about them. Tired of hearing about how it’s everything and everyone else except the player themselves.

You don’t get paid 10 million a year to rely on everyone else to make your game work. Doesn’t work that way.

There’s zero accountability in LA. None. These guys are pampered and soft, collecting a check and going home. You think they give a **** about winning? (Scoff)

McDavid has always had decent offensive support, always. Draisital has spent plenty of time with him, there’s Nugent-Hopkins, Hall, Eberle at one point and even a 20g season from Lucic. Kopi has never had anyone at Draisitals level to play with, not ever. McDavid has never had the poor offensive support Kopi has had.

The Oilers inability to defend has long been their issue.

He’s also a different player to Kopi, my point is with the dross Kopi Has as support, he wouldn’t be as effective as he has been, his numbers would be lower. Of course he’d score more than Kopi, but no one is saying he’s as good as McDavid. There isn’t a single player in the league that doesn’t rely on teammates, to some degree, to play at their highest level.

It’s not an excuse to say that certain circumstances mean Kopi doesn’t score as highly as he could, but there are reasons. For most of his career it’s been fine as he’s been able to play a solid 2 way game consistently. Now he’s learning a new way of playing and he’s surrounded by garbage. Sorry those are valid reasons and whilst I want to see better, I can be realistic in my expectations. He’s not going to just flip a switch and get it immediately, it takes time.

I don’t care about his cap hit, where we are it isn’t relevant. I’m more interested in the long game and there is no reason he can’t be a significant factor going forward. That may well be by being traded at some point also, but I’d think it better to do that when our young centers have more than a year in the NHL under their belts. I mean Turcotte probably ends up a regular Selke candidate (with more offence than Kopi), so who better to mentor him for a while?