2019-20 Kings News/Rumors

[KingsFan7824]

Left unsaid is the ability to retain on Jeff Carter. Getting an asset for him while at the same time getting much of his salary off the books would make Blake look like a genius. If you were the Bruins, would you rather have Carter or Thornton? Kings can take back Backes as well while San Jose can't.

Having to account for Carter for the next 2 years after this one, or be done with Thornton after this one? Maybe not as easy a choice as you make it. A lot has just been made about not retaining on Martinez because of the extra year, but they'll retain on Carter for another year on top of that, and take Backes? Plus get a younger asset? Not sure on that one.

I would take Backes and retain 30% on Carter to get a first pick+

The Bruins are 1st in the league, with Backes wasting space. Do they really need to give up a 1st+? Do they need to give up the 1st or the +?

Am i the only one who doesn't care about Schaller?

You will when he scores a game winner, which you know will happen. He'll be Blake's Willsie.

 

[RocketKing]

Apart from him denying he ever made such a threat.

For sure. I find it really hard to believe that an aging player would ever just stop playing this great game because he didn’t like the place he was living in. He’s painfully aware that the fun is coming to an end, & I bet he’d accept allot of crap to be able to keep living the dream. Say what you want but I’d think that there’s zero friggin chance he’d walk away if he could still get play this game in the NHL.

 

[AzKing]

Apart from him denying he ever made such a threat.

Rarely, if ever will a player say “Yes, I don’t want to be traded, I love living at the beach and I’ll retire which would screw the team over rather than accept a trade. Even if he does say it behind the scenes, it doesn’t bother me. It’s just business on both sides.

I don’t dislike the guy and don’t want to push him out the door but after 42 years of watching guys come and go here, I have no emotion on it either way.

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

Rarely, if ever will a player say “Yes, I don’t want to be traded, I love living at the beach and I’ll retire which would screw the team over rather than accept a trade.

I don’t dislike the guy and don’t want to push him out the door but after 42 years of watching guys come and go here, I have no emotion on it either way.

You don't realize how competitive these players are if you believe that......there are a shit ton of talented kids that NEVER make it, hell quite a few of them have more talent, than the ones who do make it......there's a reason why they don't make it.

 

[AzKing]

You don't realize how competitive these players are if you believe that......there are a shit ton of talented kids that NEVER make it, hell quite a few of them have more talent, than the ones who do make it......there's a reason why they don't make it.

I can understand the point. I guess we will see if he gets traded because the Kings would probably like to move his contract and could perhaps take back some salary to do it.

 

[DoktorJeep]

I dont see how they can justify that move... Maybe one but not both

Yea, it’s a BS scenario for either player. Most likely we’ll see the Avs get Lehner.

 

[kingsholygrail]

It isn't exactly a secret about how Carter has no desire to be traded and could even threaten to retire if it happened.

Pretty sure the only time a player wants to be traded is when they specifically ask to be traded. This is aside from Carter denying the claim.

 

[Piston]

The Bruins are 1st in the league, with Backes wasting space. Do they really need to give up a 1st+? Do they need to give up the 1st or the +?

1) Carter can still play, maybe not at the top level, but he will be an asset come playoff time.

2) The Bruins desperately need Cap space for next season if they want to keep their core together, and they will with Marchand and Bergeron not getting any younger. They will have to get rid of Backes one way or another just like Toronto had to offload Marleau.

3) A third to 1/2 of our roster next season will be guys on their ELC or are RFAs with little negotiating power (Walker). We won't lack cap space and can take on Backes dead money for a year. Retaining on Carter in 2022 won't be so painful as Phaneuf's hit goes down and IK will be off the books.

Not sure what Blake can get for solving Boston's problems, but we may be the only team in a position to do so.

 

[Lt Dan]

1) Carter can still play, maybe not at the top level, but he will be an asset come playoff time.

2) The Bruins desperately need Cap space for next season if they want to keep their core together, and they will with Marchand and Bergeron not getting any younger. They will have to get rid of Backes one way or another just like Toronto had to offload Marleau.

3) A third to 1/2 of our roster next season will be guys on their ELC or are RFAs with little negotiating power (Walker). We won't lack cap space and can take on Backes dead money for a year. Retaining on Carter in 2022 won't be so painful as Phaneuf's hit goes down and IK will be off the books.

Not sure what Blake can get for solving Boston's problems, but we may be the only team in a position to do so.

The price for Marleau was a first. Hell I would take a 3rd for Backes. We have the space

 

[regulate]

It would make the CAP a bit tight to do a Backes deal as the Kings have a lot of roster spots to fill, but I'd do Backes and the BOS 1st, for a B prospect from the Kings. The last big move of the rebuild.

 

[bouncesonly]

I'm calling bullshit, probably has something to do with being traded. I think I'll like salt with my crow.

 

[kingsboy11]

I'm not one for conspiracy theories, but this seems rather convenient for him.

 

[johnjm22]

Today in The Athletic LeBrun said Kings didn't retain on Amart/Toffoli because you can only retain on 3 contracts and Blake wants to have the flexibility to retain on other deals.

I like the sound of that. It makes it easier to move and potentially get more value on Lewis/Forbort/Carter etc

Kings are already retaining on 1 contract with Clifford.

Edit: I see this was already talked about earlier in this thread.

 

[Piston]

Today in The Athletic LeBrun said Kings didn't retain on Amart/Toffoli because you can only retain on 3 contracts and Blake wants to have the flexibility to retain on other deals.

I like the soudn of that. It makes it easier to move and potentially get more value on Lewis/Forbort/Carter etc

Kings are already retaining on 1 contract with Clifford.

Edit: I see this was already talked about earlier in this thread.

 

[Piston]

With only a quarter of the season remaining, Lewis and Forbort will only represent relatively small cap hits. One has to believe Blake is saving a retention slot for a bigger deal possibly extending beyond this season.

 

[FrozenKing18]

Today in The Athletic LeBrun said Kings didn't retain on Amart/Toffoli because you can only retain on 3 contracts and Blake wants to have the flexibility to retain on other deals.

I like the soudn of that. It makes it easier to move and potentially get more value on Lewis/Forbort/Carter etc

Kings are already retaining on 1 contract with Clifford.

Edit: I see this was already talked about earlier in this thread.

Pretty smart

 

[HeadInjury]

It's the way to get maximum value for Lewis and Forbort by offering to pay half. I really don't see Carter being traded. There is no salary cap reason to do so. He wears a letter for a reason. I think the plan is to keep the 5 core vets around, although Quick could be taken in the expansion draft.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Friedman on NHL Network saying Jeff Carter is on Philly’s radar due to the uncertainty of Nolan Patrick’s return.

 

[BigKing]

It's the way to get maximum value for Lewis and Forbort by offering to pay half. I really don't see Carter being traded. There is no salary cap reason to do so. He wears a letter for a reason. I think the plan is to keep the 5 core vets around, although Quick could be taken in the expansion draft.

Yeah...it isn't hard to retain some on Lewis/Hutton/Forbort since it is mostly a wash when you factor in their cheap replacement and then the contract expires.

Carter is a different story. I think he is just like Toffoli and Martinez: isn't moved until the remaining contract term is palatable.

 

[kings11]

Yeah...it isn't hard to retain some on Lewis/Hutton/Forbort since it is mostly a wash when you factor in their cheap replacement and then the contract expires.

Carter is a different story. I think he is just like Toffoli and Martinez: isn't moved until the remaining contract term is palatable.

Best case scenario for Carter is that he finishes strong and hits the 20+ goal mark and builds on that next season where he'd have 2.5 yrs of term and the Kings could retain up to $3.5-$4(salary after retention).
Teams see that and we could get something useful for our rebuild

 

[ibleedkings]

Friedman on NHL Network saying Jeff Carter is on Philly’s radar due to the uncertainty of Nolan Patrick’s return.

Carter to the Flyers would crash HF ha ha

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Carter to the Flyers would crash HF ha ha

Given how much crap Flyers fans had to say about him, I hope it happens.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Yeah lot of people going "Carter is washed" without realizing he'd be amongst every teams' leading goal scorers, heh. Imagine putting him in a complementary role on a contender where he can just rove up and down the wing for 2.5 million. He has value, absolutely.

His priorities are luxury living and happy times with the family now more than hockey. He is just collecting a paycheck and I think that he would make life hard for the Kings if they try to move him.

I give him credit for bouncing back somewhat this year but he is just frosting for a cake you can't eat anymore.

Gosh, now we're making hair jokes about Carter?

 

[Little Psycho]

This is great. Ford is so impressed by him

 

[Stimpythecat]

I actually think blake is looking at being the third intermediary team in a trade involving a cap strapped team. Get traded a guy, retain 50% on his contract and then send him off to his intended destination. Possibly more a summer deal though.

This is what vegas did in the brassard trade a few years back.