2019-20 Kings News/Rumors

[Brodeur]

Are they trying to actually get something for him or are they trying to dump him?

They're checking to see if he has any value to anybody before they terminate the deal. It's a long shot, but the thought is that there might be a team (ie Florida with his former coach/GM) who thinks he has any gas left in the tank. If Byfuglien didn't report, then the new team could also terminate the deal.

It doesn't seem likely given Byfuglien has a 7.6 mil cap hit (6 mil in real money) for next season, but I suppose you can't blame Winnipeg for trying to get a conditional pick out of it.

 

[Piston]

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LeBrun on The Athletic:

Kings do well

I thought Kings GM Rob Blake did a really good job in his returns for both Tyler Toffoli and Alec Martinez this week.
I thought Toffoli would net a second-round pick and a B-level prospect. The Kings got more than that from Vancouver to be sure. As for Martinez, a second-round pick plus a conditional pick sounded like a fair return. Instead, Blake got two guaranteed second-round picks on Wednesday from Vegas in a trade my pal Bob McKenzie of TSN had reported a day earlier.

But the cherry on the sundae for the Kings in both deals is that they didn’t have to eat any salary. Because of the Golden Knights’ tight cap situation, I know people were surprised when it was revealed the Kings didn’t retain salary on Martinez. But L.A. was never going that route in any trade that involved Martinez due to the fact that he’s got another year on his deal after this season at $4 million.

They were willing to eat money on Toffoli, and for a while, that was part of the discussion with Vancouver. Instead, the money part got settled by taking Tim Schaller and his $1.9-million salary.

The reason? Teams can retain salary on a maximum of three players per season. The Kings are already retaining on Kyle Clifford from the Leafs trade. In the end, they move pending UFAs such as Trevor Lewis or Ben Hutton or Derek Forbort before Monday’s deadline, it will likely facilitate a move to be able to retain salary on those guys. So L.A. wanted to keep that option open.

Left unsaid is the ability to retain on Jeff Carter. Getting an asset for him while at the same time getting much of his salary off the books would make Blake look like a genius. If you were the Bruins, would you rather have Carter or Thornton? Kings can take back Backes as well while San Jose can't.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Left unsaid is the ability to retain on Jeff Carter. Getting an asset for him while at the same time getting much of his salary off the books would make Blake look like a genius. If you were the Bruins, would you rather have Carter or Thornton? Kings can take back Backes as well while San Jose can't.

And if the Kings take Backes, they shouldn’t have to retain on Carter.

 

[SFKingshomer]

Backes wouldn't be a bad guy to have around. He's willing to protect his teammates and has been a captain before.

 

[Piston]

And if the Kings take Backes, they shouldn’t have to retain on Carter.

I would take Backes and retain 30% on Carter to get a first pick+

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

 

[bouncesonly]

I would take Backes and retain 30% on Carter to get a first pick+

Add 1.29 mil/year to our salary cap until 2022 for 1 first rounder? I suppose that's less painful than looking at Phaneuf's buyout.

 

[riznat]

This guy definitely has seen the rumors and does not want to leave the beach. Mysterious injury keeping him out of games leading up to the deadline.

 

[YP44]

Left unsaid is the ability to retain on Jeff Carter. Getting an asset for him while at the same time getting much of his salary off the books would make Blake look like a genius. If you were the Bruins, would you rather have Carter or Thornton? Kings can take back Backes as well while San Jose can't.

Lets play out a scenario, lets say the kings retain $1M on Carter and move him, and then he retires after this year which leaves the kings with a cap recapture penalty just above $2m for two years. Do they also still have the retention of $1M for each year?

I am guessing no as when a player retires (unless it is a +35 contract) his cap hit comes off.

edit: answered my own question, just needed to write it out haha

 

[YP44]

Am i the only one who doesn't care about Schaller?

 

[Sleeping Dog]

Am i the only one who doesn't care about Schaller?

Maybe Blake is showcasing him to get a 4th or 5th round pick. Put him on Kopi’s wing. Hat trick coming up!!

 

[AzKing]

This guy definitely has seen the rumors and does not want to leave the beach. Mysterious injury keeping him out of games leading up to the deadline.

His priorities are luxury living and happy times with the family now more than hockey. He is just collecting a paycheck and I think that he would make life hard for the Kings if they try to move him.

I give him credit for bouncing back somewhat this year but he is just frosting for a cake you can't eat anymore.

 

[Piston]

His priorities are luxury living and happy times with the family now more than hockey. He is just collecting a paycheck and I think that he would make life hard for the Kings if they try to move him.

I give him credit for bouncing back somewhat this year but he is just frosting for a cake you can't eat anymore.

Going to the Bruins would be a chance for another Cup. He would be a great depth piece for them, and he would be in a premium market. I think if the Kings took Backes and retained a bit on Carter, we may be able to get a prospect as well as a 1st. Our salary cap next year would be ugly with all the dead money, but we are playing the kids on ELCs so it won;t matter, and everyone knows next season is a building year. We can mutually terminate Backes's contract to get another roster spot.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Am i the only one who doesn't care about Schaller?

I’m about as excited to see him play as I was when the Kings acquired Brandon Segal, or Matt Ellis.

 

[Stimpythecat]

The Wysh List: The California NHL trio's less-than-golden moment


tl;dr
Kings have the best future out of the 3 California teams.

 

[funky]

Am i the only one who doesn't care about Schaller?

Possibly Schiller helps with some toughness we lost by moving Cliffy? According to Canucks fans he will help our loss column.

 

[Steve Zissou]

Am i the only one who doesn't care about Schaller?

Ask any Canuck fan and they will tell you he's one of the worst players in the league... and while that's a bold statement, that certainly tells you all you need to know in regards to them being able to afford Toffoli.

 

[kings11]

Am i the only one who doesn't care about Schaller?

You're going to want him and Mac in the lineup in case some punk wants to get fresh with Gabe.

 

[kingsholygrail]

Why are we speculating on the motives of Jeff Carter? Is this some sort of coping thing like when you're getting ready to break up with your girlfriend and you start trashtalking her to make it easier?

 

[YP44]

Ask any Canuck fan and they will tell you he's one of the worst players in the league... and while that's a bold statement, that certainly tells you all you need to know in regards to them being able to afford Toffoli.

They were pretty bang on about WD

 

[AzKing]

Why are we speculating on the motives of Jeff Carter? Is this some sort of coping thing like when you're getting ready to break up with your girlfriend and you start trashtalking her to make it easier?

It isn't exactly a secret about how Carter has no desire to be traded and could even threaten to retire if it happened.

 

[YP44]

Why are we speculating on the motives of Jeff Carter? Is this some sort of coping thing like when you're getting ready to break up with your girlfriend and you start trashtalking her to make it easier?

great point

 

[BigKing]

I would have no problem taking Backes for Carter with some retention if a 1st + was bandied about. I'd also have no problem with him being on the roster even if he's washed.

That's a Scott Thornton bridge dude right there. Guy basically decided he'd be a fighter just to stay in the lineup. Admirable stuff from a veteran with an over half point per game average who isn't a good fighter.

 

[YP44]

I would have no problem taking Backes for Carter with some retention if a 1st + was bandied about. I'd also have no problem with him being on the roster even if he's washed.

That's a Scott Thornton bridge dude right there. Guy basically decided he'd be a fighter just to stay in the lineup. Admirable stuff from a veteran with an over half point per game average who isn't a good fighter.

my only issue is that I will quickly be running out of mayor approved jerseys haha

 

[Statto]

It isn't exactly a secret about how Carter has no desire to be traded and could even threaten to retire if it happened.

Apart from him denying he ever made such a threat.