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Ziggy Stardust

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We still have a mile and a half of cap space, would be nice to add more draft stock by eating a few contracts from cap crunched teams at the deadline. However, I'd guess that Blake would be hesitant to spend any more of uncle Phil's money after the Kovalchuk debacle.

The Kings will have over $20M in cap space this offseason, with no significant RFAs to re-sign other than Sean Walker.

It's been quite some time since the Kings had that much cap flexibility, and that even includes dead cap space. Fast forward to next summer, the Kings will have almost $40M in cap space.
 
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Stimpythecat

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I don't think Carter will be moved. he's proven that he can work well with teaching rookies how to hockey. We need a vet to do that.

Brown deserves to retire a king. We aren't going to be contenders next year so there is no cap pressure to move him. As for 21-22 with Brown, we still need vets to teach the new guys. Carter and Kopitar can't be the only vet forwards to do that.
 

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I don't think Carter will be moved. he's proven that he can work well with teaching rookies how to hockey. We need a vet to do that.

Brown deserves to retire a king. We aren't going to be contenders next year so there is no cap pressure to move him. As for 21-22 with Brown, we still need vets to teach the new guys. Carter and Kopitar can't be the only vet forwards to do that.

Agree. With Martinez and Lewis probably gone, it's just going to be Kopi, Doughty, Brown, Carter and Quick is terms of veteran presence. That's less than one vet per forward line, only one vet on the entire d-corp and one goalie.

With our cap situation, Carter's, Brown's and Quick's cap hits are irrelevant. At $2 million in actual salary for the next two seasons, Carter is a true bargain if anything.
 

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Agree. With Martinez and Lewis probably gone, it's just going to be Kopi, Doughty, Brown, Carter and Quick is terms of veteran presence. That's less than one vet per forward line, only one vet on the entire d-corp and one goalie.

With our cap situation, Carter's, Brown's and Quick's cap hits are irrelevant. At $2 million in actual salary for the next two seasons, Carter is a true bargain if anything.

We can always overpay/sign vets in the off-season much like Handzus, Thornton, Scuderi.
 

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I like Blakes idea of getting ahead of the curve come trade deadline. He stocks up Toronto and Vancouver thus far and hopefully drives up the price of Martinez and possibly one of our other vets for teams battling with Toronto and Vancouver
 

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I’m guessing, Forbort for a 5th rounder. Martinez and Lewis package for 2nd, 3rd, solid prospect.
 
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One wonders...the more Drew sees the departures of: Muzzin...then Clifford, Campbell, now Toffoli...and next Martinez and Drew's buddy Lewis....
if it gets to him more and it hits HARDER HOME, that this team is being built for 2022-23 and the next 2 years are about bringing in 2-3 youth each year...(and phasing out Brown, Carter and Quick)
that he will just have a change of heart and want out. That's fine with me and if he felt that way, trade him. With his 11 million, would have to bring back at least 9 million, or so.
That could be 2, 4 to 6 million dollar contracts and be 2 good NHL players and possibly add another #1 pick in a deal. If both the players acquired were 25-28 years old, all the better.
The Kings need that age range.

Sure, he knows this is THE PLAN...but it's another thing to be in the room and see these good 8+ year buddies leave. #realitybites
 
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I don't think Carter will be moved. he's proven that he can work well with teaching rookies how to hockey. We need a vet to do that.

Brown deserves to retire a king. We aren't going to be contenders next year so there is no cap pressure to move him. As for 21-22 with Brown, we still need vets to teach the new guys. Carter and Kopitar can't be the only vet forwards to do that.
Why would you want those three to be the examples? They have all quit on multiple coaches, underperformed for at least two of the last three seasons, and with the possible exception of Iafallo, not made anybody they have played with into better professionals?

It's just dead money rotting away.
 
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Stimpythecat

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All three have multiple cups. All three wore either the C or A. Brown had a lot to do with the culture change to Kings hockey and the tight locker room. All three are current kings and not someone imported from another team. (See the rumors about locker room issues on other teams from bringing in new players via trade/UFA and immediately giving them the A like I've seen some shark fans suggest with Karlsson.) All three are positive locker room presences.

Carter has taught rookies how to pro hockey and thus has a proven track record there. Kopitar is not going anywhere as Blake told him he is part of the core to build around.

And there would be no other vets left that fit all of the above.
 

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would gladly take Backes even if it was a 3rd coming with it. I mean, it's not coming out of my pocket but still.
Yeah, no way anyone let's Boston off that easy. I wonder about something around Carter for Backes +. Apparently they need a RW. JC has the extra year but he can still play.
 

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One wonders...the more Drew sees the departures of: Muzzin...then Clifford, Campbell, now Toffoli...and next Martinez and Drew's buddy Lewis....
if it gets to him more and it hits HARDER HOME, that this team is being built for 2022-23 and the next 2 years are about bringing in 2-3 youth each year...(and phasing out Brown, Carter and Quick)
that he will just have a change of heart and want out. That's fine with me and if he felt that way, trade him. With his 11 million, would have to bring back at least 9 million, or so.
That could be 2, 4 to 6 million dollar contracts and be 2 good NHL players and possibly add another #1 pick in a deal. If both the players acquired were 25-28 years old, all the better.
The Kings need that age range.

Sure, he knows this is THE PLAN...but it's another thing to be in the room and see these good 8+ year buddies leave. #realitybites

You're likely hoping for a lot there. Another team is going to trade already proven depth, quality depth, and youth, to get an aging player, with a ton and a half of miles on his body, taking up $11m in space until 2027? Not to mention he gets to pick exactly where he would go. The other team is going to want to put themselves closer to the current Kings situation? Where they become more top heavy without much youth? If he wants out, the Kings will not get equal value. That opportunity went by at least 5 years ago. Younger, in the middle of a good contract. Trading him in 2017 or 2018 was already too late. The Kings aren't in the driver's seat on this one.
 

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The Kings will have over $20M in cap space this offseason, with no significant RFAs to re-sign other than Sean Walker.

It's been quite some time since the Kings had that much cap flexibility, and that even includes dead cap space. Fast forward to next summer, the Kings will have almost $40M in cap space.
But Kopitar and Doughty’s contracts...
 

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You're likely hoping for a lot there. Another team is going to trade already proven depth, quality depth, and youth, to get an aging player, with a ton and a half of miles on his body, taking up $11m in space until 2027? Not to mention he gets to pick exactly where he would go. The other team is going to want to put themselves closer to the current Kings situation? Where they become more top heavy without much youth? If he wants out, the Kings will not get equal value. That opportunity went by at least 5 years ago. Younger, in the middle of a good contract. Trading him in 2017 or 2018 was already too late. The Kings aren't in the driver's seat on this one.
For the next few years, a team looking to go over the top will likely be willing so long as the Kings are willing to retain.
 

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I don't think Carter will be moved. he's proven that he can work well with teaching rookies how to hockey. We need a vet to do that.

Brown deserves to retire a king. We aren't going to be contenders next year so there is no cap pressure to move him. As for 21-22 with Brown, we still need vets to teach the new guys. Carter and Kopitar can't be the only vet forwards to do that.

agreed. Only way Brown gets moved is if he asks to be moved to a contender in the final year of his deal to chase another cup.
 
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