2019-20 Kings News/Rumors

[kings11]

Thanks for the info. Luc and Dean were never a team. Dean and Hextall, and once he arrived Sutter were always talking and bouncing ideas off of each other. Luc was in charge of in game entertainment, etc.

If Blake goes, Robitaille needs to be gone as well.

Back again.... Luc really needs to be let go, it wouldn't surprise me if Hexy becomes GM and Blake replaces Luc... at least I hope so..

 

[YP44]

Actually , that's correct, whatever happened in practice aggravated the tweak.



It's been quite a few years since I've been excited to watch the Flyers, but this year, they are fun to watch. Hexy's hard work is paying off and still a lot of blue chippers on the Farm. Next few years are going to be fun. more so if they unload Giroux and esp. Voracek.

NOt sure how true, but read where Campbell hasnt' been moved yet because the Kings arent' sure if Peterson is ready to be Quick's full time backup. I disagree, I think he's ready and given the teams that need good backups, I'd not hesitate to move Campbell.

Completely agree with the bolded.

 

[YP44]

Back again.... Luc really needs to be let go, it wouldn't surprise me if Hexy becomes GM and Blake replaces Luc... at least I hope so..

Meh I am ok with Luc as president if GM is given power to make player movement decisions. I am not ready to say Blake is not working out or that he is. I do not give him the benefit of the doubt because of him buring the kings twice as a player, but if I am honest that does not make him a shit GM. However I really like what Hextall did in Philadelphia. He had a vision and stuck to a path to initiate that vision. I think it is too bad their ownership did not have the patience for Hextall to see it through.

Maybe the kings really like Hextall as well and it is not so much about what Blake has or hasn't done but about a better option out there?

 

[Bandit]

I mean they are saying that Luc is meddling with Blake's decisions and Blake doesn't like it, does anyone think of Ron Hextall and think "yes man"? If that shit is true, Luc needs to go, now.

 

[KingsFan7824]

NOt sure how true, but read where Campbell hasnt' been moved yet because the Kings arent' sure if Peterson is ready to be Quick's full time backup. I disagree, I think he's ready and given the teams that need good backups, I'd not hesitate to move Campbell.

He's 25 years old. He's going to be 26 in Oct. I'm not even sold on him being the goalie of the future. Assuming next year is going to be another crap fest, he'll be 27 when the Kings might have a decent shot at a playoff spot. Quick was 27 when the 2013 playoffs rolled around. That was his 5th year as the #1 guy. Played in 32 playoff games, with a Cup and Conn Smythe. Petersen will be a UFA after the 21-22 season, which is the season after next year.

If he could bring back a better return, I wouldn't hesitate to trade Petersen. Either he or Campbell should already have been gone by now. He's being wasted in the AHL. Cheap goalies are easy to trade, but you're just not going to get a ton. That's usually the case with any goalie though. Just a reality of the market and position.

 

[YP44]

He's 25 years old. He's going to be 26 in Oct. I'm not even sold on him being the goalie of the future. Assuming next year is going to be another crap fest, he'll be 27 when the Kings might have a decent shot at a playoff spot. Quick was 27 when the 2013 playoffs rolled around. That was his 5th year as the #1 guy. Played in 32 playoff games, with a Cup and Conn Smythe. Petersen will be a UFA after the 21-22 season, which is the season after next year.

If he could bring back a better return, I wouldn't hesitate to trade Petersen. Either he or Campbell should already have been gone by now. He's being wasted in the AHL. Cheap goalies are easy to trade, but you're just not going to get a ton. That's usually the case with any goalie though. Just a reality of the market and position.

next season presents the perfect opportunity to see what LA has in Petersen though. Team expectations will be low so pressure on him should be low as well

 

[kings11]

Meh I am ok with Luc as president if GM is given power to make player movement decisions. I am not ready to say Blake is not working out or that he is. I do not give him the benefit of the doubt because of him buring the kings twice as a player, but if I am honest that does not make him a **** GM. However I really like what Hextall did in Philadelphia. He had a vision and stuck to a path to initiate that vision. I think it is too bad their ownership did not have the patience for Hextall to see it through.

Maybe the kings really like Hextall as well and it is not so much about what Blake has or hasn't done but about a better option out there?

Thats the thing, Luc has been the one pushing the contender status... Blake and Co have been really good at drafting and we are about to see some of those kids so i'd keep him... Luc can go sell candies with his cousin in Carpinteria!

 

[Lt Dan]

He's 25 years old. He's going to be 26 in Oct. I'm not even sold on him being the goalie of the future. Assuming next year is going to be another crap fest, he'll be 27 when the Kings might have a decent shot at a playoff spot. Quick was 27 when the 2013 playoffs rolled around. That was his 5th year as the #1 guy. Played in 32 playoff games, with a Cup and Conn Smythe. Petersen will be a UFA after the 21-22 season, which is the season after next year.

If he could bring back a better return, I wouldn't hesitate to trade Petersen. Either he or Campbell should already have been gone by now. He's being wasted in the AHL. Cheap goalies are easy to trade, but you're just not going to get a ton. That's usually the case with any goalie though. Just a reality of the market and position.

this

 

[deeshamrock]

Meh I am ok with Luc as president if GM is given power to make player movement decisions. I am not ready to say Blake is not working out or that he is. I do not give him the benefit of the doubt because of him buring the kings twice as a player, but if I am honest that does not make him a **** GM. However I really like what Hextall did in Philadelphia. He had a vision and stuck to a path to initiate that vision. I think it is too bad their ownership did not have the patience for Hextall to see it through.

Maybe the kings really like Hextall as well and it is not so much about what Blake has or hasn't done but about a better option out there?

I think given when he took over, Flyers had the worst , barren and bare Farm system in the NHL (and were rated last) and inside of a few years, they rose to be ranked #1 illustrates how smart he is at recognizing talent. Now those some of those seeds are off the farm and thriving in the NHL with more to come. Myers, is 6'4 D who skates well and is pretty smart in all areas, young with room to learn, but went undrafted and Hexy signed him. He's a good eye that way too. Might be why the Kings brought Hexy on board earlier this year

I think Mark Hunter would be a good choice, he was Lamirillo's Ass't at the Leafs and parted ways, didn't get along with Dubas . Paul Fenton is out there too. And by summer there will be a few more.

 

[KingsFan7824]

I think given when he took over, Flyers had the worst , barren and bare Farm system in the NHL (and were rated last) and inside of a few years, they rose to be ranked #1 illustrates how smart he is at recognizing talent.

Does this also make Blake smart at recognizing talent?

 

[YP44]

I think given when he took over, Flyers had the worst , barren and bare Farm system in the NHL (and were rated last) and inside of a few years, they rose to be ranked #1 illustrates how smart he is at recognizing talent. Now those some of those seeds are off the farm and thriving in the NHL with more to come. Myers, is 6'4 D who skates well and is pretty smart in all areas, young with room to learn, but went undrafted and Hexy signed him. He's a good eye that way too. Might be why the Kings brought Hexy on board earlier this year

I think Mark Hunter would be a good choice, he was Lamirillo's Ass't at the Leafs and parted ways, didn't get along with Dubas . Paul Fenton is out there too. And by summer there will be a few more.

I think Hunter is pretty married to his CHL team no?

 

[kovacro]

It's been quite a few years since I've been excited to watch the Flyers, but this year, they are fun to watch. Hexy's hard work is paying off and still a lot of blue chippers on the Farm. Next few years are going to be fun. more so if they unload Giroux and esp. Voracek..

Got to give that scouting staff credit as well. They have done some fine work.

 

[crassbonanza]

I think given when he took over, Flyers had the worst , barren and bare Farm system in the NHL (and were rated last) and inside of a few years, they rose to be ranked #1 illustrates how smart he is at recognizing talent.

Replace Flyers with Kings and you could say the exact same thing about Blake. It's kind of interesting in a way.

 

[kovacro]

I think Hunter is pretty married to his CHL team no?

Yes, he and Dale are. They have turned the London Knights into a top notch organization.

Both of them spent time with NHL organizations and chose to go back to London. I really think they are enjoying the mentoring/development of kids and watching them progress.

 

[funky]

If Luc has anything to do with the jersey designs, bark madness, or the TV broadcast hires he should have been fired long ago. If it’s true he is meddling with the GM’s job he needs to be gone. That whole rumored trade with Montreal and Luc’s bff as Agent a couple years back had Luc written all over it. Stay on as a ambassador but get him out of day to day decisions.

 

[KINGS17]

Meh I am ok with Luc as president if GM is given power to make player movement decisions. I am not ready to say Blake is not working out or that he is. I do not give him the benefit of the doubt because of him buring the kings twice as a player, but if I am honest that does not make him a **** GM. However I really like what Hextall did in Philadelphia. He had a vision and stuck to a path to initiate that vision. I think it is too bad their ownership did not have the patience for Hextall to see it through.

Maybe the kings really like Hextall as well and it is not so much about what Blake has or hasn't done but about a better option out there?

I'm not okay with Robitaille staying on as president if Blake leaves and Hextall takes over. Hextall wouldn't need Robitaille looking over his shoulder.

 

[KINGS17]

Replace Flyers with Kings and you could say the exact same thing about Blake. It's kind of interesting in a way.

While having a prospect pool that is rated #1 is fine, I prefer waiting to see how a particular prospect pool ranks five years after the first batch from the pool has matured.

 

[crassbonanza]

While having a prospect pool that is rated #1 is fine, I prefer waiting to see how a particular prospect pool ranks five years after the first batch from the pool has matured.

I'm not saying anything at all about whether the prospects will pan out, I was just saying that his exact statement about Hextall can be said about Blake. It's pretty funny if you think about it in the context of the discussion.

 

[KINGS17]

I'm not saying anything at all about whether the prospects will pan out, I was just saying that his exact statement about Hextall can be said about Blake. It's pretty funny if you think about it in the context of the discussion.

Yes, my post applies equally to Blake and Hextall.

Assuming Hextall had some input into Dean's drafts we can assume some things:

- Probably pretty good at assessing talent available in the second round and later (Simmonds, Voynov, Clifford and Toffoli)

- Swung on some pitches on the dirt in the first round (Hickey, Teubert, and Forbort)

When Hextall was GM of the Monarchs the AHL team developed some pretty good NHLers for the Kings. I think the development personnel need to be refreshed, because it doesn't appear the Kings development system is producing much these days.

 

[crassbonanza]

I think the development personnel need to be refreshed, because it doesn't appear the Kings development system is producing much these days.

While I totally agree that the development system can use an overhaul, the larger issue in my mind is the dearth of good prospects. I doubt the best development system in the league would have pulled much out of the Kings system. From 2011-2016 the Kings had two 1st round draft picks, which were 29th and 30th; The Kings didn't have a 1st round draft pick between Kempe and Vilardi; Prior to Vilardi the last pick higher than 29th was Forbort, etc.

It's really hard to pull high impact players out of the later rounds in drafts. Which is why those 1st round picks are so important.

 

[KingsofLA]

Yes, my post applies eHqually to Blake and Hextall.

Assuming Hextall had some input into Dean's drafts we can assume some things:

- Probably pretty good at assessing talent available in the second round and later (Simmonds, Voynov, Clifford and Toffoli)

- Swung on some pitches on the dirt in the first round (Hickey, Teubert, and Forbort)

When Hextall was GM of the Monarchs the AHL team developed some pretty good NHLers for the Kings. I think the development personnel need to be refreshed, because it doesn't appear the Kings development system is producing much these days.

Hate to say it, but coach Stothers is not that good at developing skill players.

 

[regulate]

Hate to say it, but coach Stothers is not that good at developing skill players.

Give us some examples of skill players he's coached with the Monarchs and Reign. We'll wait.

 

[KingsFan7824]

While having a prospect pool that is rated #1 is fine, I prefer waiting to see how a particular prospect pool ranks five years after the first batch from the pool has matured.

So Blake gets until 2022? Unless he chooses to step down, or gets nudged out, or usurped, or whatever the hell is going on with the Kings anymore.

 

[Choralone]

So Blake gets until 2022? Unless he chooses to step down, or gets nudged out, or usurped, or whatever the hell is going on with the Kings anymore.

I mean, if he were solely judged on how his draft picks pan out, yeah, why not? How else could you judge his performance? Obviously, though he's responsible for a lot more than just drafting and developing young players, so if you're eager to see him fired just pay attention to those areas (trades, cap management, hires, etc.) Edit: And the on-ice product, of course (while paying mind to context and circumstances).

 

[KINGS17]

So Blake gets until 2022? Unless he chooses to step down, or gets nudged out, or usurped, or whatever the hell is going on with the Kings anymore.

I don't necessarily need to see Blake get fired, but Robitaille should go if he is interfering with Blake. If Blake quits, Robitaille should be fired immediately.