2019-20 Kings News/Rumors

[BigKing]

I think we're on the other side of the rebuild hump. Another year or two. Pronman has us at what #4? Blake and Yannetti have done an incredible job rebuilding a quality farm system as fast as they did, even with questions about Villardi. Add in decent picks from this tank year and I can see us emerging from the tank in 2020-2021 when some of the kids are ready for bigger roles.

We need some vets to mentor the younger players, especially on defense. In 2012, we had Scuderi and Mitchell. I don't see Marty getting traded for that reason. Trading Carter is a risk due to the possibility he would retire instead.

I also want nothing to do with Jack Minus Forever Johnson. his contract is simply too long for a buyout and the dead cap space. We have enough of that.

I'd rather see Kempe traded. Move Amadio to the 2C. Give him an honest shot at it. A reverse 2014. Instead of Carter mentoring 2 kids, it's 2 vets and a young guy. I don't think anyone is going to trade for Kovalchuk without a sweetener or serious retention. If kovalchuk is somehow traded, kempe can be the winger. He is not a center. Have Lizotte as the 3C once he learns the pro game.

2021-2022 is the earliest we see them push for a playoff spot. Nabbing a high pick is very important for this season. Vilardi could help expedite things but it is foolish to even think about him as something tangible until he is actually playing.

I believe they will have money to play with for the 2022 season. They will have a good idea what they have in Bjornfot/Anderson/Clague/Durzi etc. Doughty will still be here. Martinez is moveable because he might not matter in 2022 as they will have money to address veteran defense if necessary. Even better, maybe one of these not-ready-for-prime time-players that are on defense this year actually develop into a real NHL defenseman.

We are still in the sell stage of the rebuild since Blake didn't start selling until the season was already underway last year, actually being a buyer only four months earlier. While Pronman has the Kings at #4, he also doesn't have them with any superstar type players. The last rebuild featured future HHOF'ers in Kopitar and Doughty while the current pool doesn't appear to have anyone like that. Again, getting a higher pick than last season would be tremendous as adding someone at least at Turcotte's level would be huge.

Don't get me wrong: I've enjoyed Blake's drafts so far. There is a long way to go, however. We aren't too far off I guess, but I don't see emerging from the tank until the 2022 season.

 

[KingCanadain1976]

How long until Kovy is on waivers?

right after Carter so game 23 ish

 

[The Tikkanen]

That would be ****ing funny if Carter was AGAIN traded for JJ and a 1st.

If Blake does that you can put me firmly in the "fire Blake" camp if there is one right now.

 

[johnjm22]

If Blake does that you can put me firmly in the "fire Blake" camp if there is one right now.

Carter for JJ would be worth it if were getting the Pens 1st round pick unprotected.

 

[KingsFan7824]

Carter’s contract has the poison pill with the cap recapture penalty, I believe?

Sending him to a cellar dweller would accelerate that risk, especially once he has his 1000 game, which is only 19 games away.

The Kings are the cellar dweller. There is zero reason to trade him, unless some team is insanely desperate and gives you a real asset. Since he's now a bad player on a bad team, and no longer even plays C on that bad team, where's he going to go?

2021-2022 is the earliest we see them push for a playoff spot. Nabbing a high pick is very important for this season. Vilardi could help expedite things but it is foolish to even think about him as something tangible until he is actually playing.

I believe they will have money to play with for the 2022 season. They will have a good idea what they have in Bjornfot/Anderson/Clague/Durzi etc. Doughty will still be here. Martinez is moveable because he might not matter in 2022 as they will have money to address veteran defense if necessary. Even better, maybe one of these not-ready-for-prime time-players that are on defense this year actually develop into a real NHL defenseman.

We are still in the sell stage of the rebuild since Blake didn't start selling until the season was already underway last year, actually being a buyer only four months earlier. While Pronman has the Kings at #4, he also doesn't have them with any superstar type players. The last rebuild featured future HHOF'ers in Kopitar and Doughty while the current pool doesn't appear to have anyone like that. Again, getting a higher pick than last season would be tremendous as adding someone at least at Turcotte's level would be huge.

Don't get me wrong: I've enjoyed Blake's drafts so far. There is a long way to go, however. We aren't too far off I guess, but I don't see emerging from the tank until the 2022 season.

They're not done rebuilding until more of the actual 18-2 1 year old prospects are playing top minutes on the team. Still a ways away.

Carter for JJ would be worth it if were getting the Pens 1st round pick unprotected.

But if he can't even be a C here, how is that going to help Pittsburgh? They're already aging as it is. Not that Malkin's out for the whole year anyway. He'll be back. Crosby can keep them afloat until then.

 

[Sleeping Dog]

With SJ’s issues with goalie position, maybe Blake can swing a deal with his buddy Doug Wilson? Quick for a 2nd? Just a thought. I know it would be tough seeing JQ in teal, but we’re in a rebuild. By the time we’re competing for a Cup, he’ll be retired or close to it.

 

[YP44]

Carter for JJ would be worth it if were getting the Pens 1st round pick unprotected.

I agree especially given how deep the 2020 class is supposed to be, and how buy out friendly Johnson's contract is.

 

[YP44]

With SJ’s issues with goalie position, maybe Blake can swing a deal with his buddy Doug Wilson? Quick for a 2nd? Just a thought. I know it would be tough seeing JQ in teal, but we’re in a rebuild. By the time we’re competing for a Cup, he’ll be retired or close to it.

Was thinking the Sharks could be a team looking for goalie help but god that would suck.
Thankfully I don't think the sharks would want $11M tied to goalies and I don't think LA would want Jones.

 

[Sleeping Dog]

Was thinking the Sharks could be a team looking for goalie help but god that would suck.
Thankfully I don't think the sharks would want $11M tied to goalies and I don't think LA would want Jones.

I agree that $11M is a lot of money to carry, but are the Sharks ready to flush another season down the drain with weak goaltending? Their window is closing fast. I’d be ok with taking Dell back (1yr/$1.9M).

 

[YP44]

I agree that $11M is a lot of money to carry, but are the Sharks ready to flush another season down the drain with weak goaltending? Their window is closing fast. I’d be ok with taking Dell back (1yr/$1.9M).

San Jose has like $700K in cap space..would need to take a lot more than Dell.

 

[johnjm22]

But if he can't even be a C here, how is that going to help Pittsburgh? They're already aging as it is. Not that Malkin's out for the whole year anyway. He'll be back. Crosby can keep them afloat until then.

To be clear, I was talking hypothetically. I don't think Pittsburgh would be interested Carter at this point.

 

[kings11]

Hey guys, correct me if im wrong but when we were sucking ass last season didn't Blake try and acquire Kris Letang? Does anyone remember this rumor?

 

[kings11]

Was thinking the Sharks could be a team looking for goalie help but god that would suck.
Thankfully I don't think the sharks would want $11M tied to goalies and I don't think LA would want Jones.

If Quick was to be traded it would be East.. No way we help a rival nor should we

 

[dman3474]

Columbus needs a goalie

 

[kingsfan28]

Man, the Canadian media is really driving the Doughty-Tkchuck thing. They're really gonna be let down when nothing happens.

 

[King'sPawn]

Columbus needs a goalie

They were my first thought as well.

 

[YP44]

Man, the Canadian media is really driving the Doughty-Tkchuck thing. They're really gonna be let down when nothing happens.

um not just the canadian media. In fact sportsnet was down playing it this morning and saying although there was/is hatred there the continuation is very much media contrived.

 

[YP44]

Columbus needs a goalie

I still think if Carolina is serious they need someone better in net. Columbus is not in the same competitive window as the canes. There are alot of pieces I would like from the Canes as well, not just their picks.

 

[BigKing]

The Kings are the cellar dweller. There is zero reason to trade him, unless some team is insanely desperate and gives you a real asset. Since he's now a bad player on a bad team, and no longer even plays C on that bad team, where's he going to go?



They're not done rebuilding until more of the actual 18-2 1 year old prospects are playing top minutes on the team. Still a ways away.



But if he can't even be a C here, how is that going to help Pittsburgh? They're already aging as it is. Not that Malkin's out for the whole year anyway. He'll be back. Crosby can keep them afloat until then.

I believe 2022 is the earliest they push for a playoff spot; of course, that doesn't mean they are done rebuilding.

The rebuild didn't begin until they traded Muzzin. Keeping picks instead of trading them doesn't mean they are rebuilding. You don't sign an old enigma to three years $6MM per when you are rebuilding. This last draft looks great but, yes, these dudes are still 18. The first rounder that should be contributing now needs a new back and Kupari isn't going to be a franchise-changing talent.

You and I don't disagree on this so I'm not arguing: just stating that I think they will push for a spot in 2022 but the rebuild still has a long way to go.

 

[YP44]

I think LA will compete for the playoffs next season.

 

[BigKing]

I think LA will compete for the playoffs next season.

How? What does your 2021 Kings defense look like?

I assume you believe this happens because they can somehow dump Kovalchuk, Carter and possibly Quick?

 

[The Tikkanen]

I still think if Carolina is serious they need someone better in net. Columbus is not in the same competitive window as the canes. There are alot of pieces I would like from the Canes as well, not just their picks.

Might be a good way to lure Williams out of his hammock as well?

 

[YP44]

How? What does your 2021 Kings defense look like?

I assume you believe this happens because they can somehow dump Kovalchuk, Carter and possibly Quick?

I think they compete because the pacific is still weak as f*** next year so the 3rd spot is hanging there. I think a couple of the young guys Kupari, Anderson-Dolan, etc make the team next year and it changes what LA is able to do. Most importantly though I think LA's D takes a major step forward next year. There is a lot of guys who are UFAs out there this summer that could be brought in on the back end too.

I think Kovalchuk gets moved with retention and Toffoli gets moved to make room for these young guys. Not sure if there is a deal out there for Quick and Carter.

I am not saying they will get into the playoffs next season, but that they will compete.

 

[BigKing]

I think they compete because the pacific is still weak as **** next year so the 3rd spot is hanging there. I think a couple of the young guys Kupari, Anderson-Dolan, etc make the team next year and it changes what LA is able to do. Most importantly though I think LA's D takes a major step forward next year. There is a lot of guys who are UFAs out there this summer that could be brought in on the back end too.

I think Kovalchuk gets moved with retention and Toffoli gets moved to make room for these young guys. Not sure if there is a deal out there for Quick and Carter.

I am not saying they will get into the playoffs next season, but that they will compete.

Possible, but I put it at less than a 10% chance that Blake is spending any real money on a UFA next season: especially while retaining on the Kovy disaster and coming off of what is probably a Bottom 5 finish.

Now, if there is a legit superstar at the top of this draft and the Kings get him, then maybe they think about spending. Outside of that, I think the powder is kept dry next off season as well. Then the kids you speak of can come in that season and prove that they are worth spending money on to bring in outside help.

 

[YP44]

Possible, but I put it at less than a 10% chance that Blake is spending any real money on a UFA next season: especially while retaining on the Kovy disaster and coming off of what is probably a Bottom 5 finish.

Now, if there is a legit superstar at the top of this draft and the Kings get him, then maybe they think about spending. Outside of that, I think the powder is kept dry next off season as well. Then the kids you speak of can come in that season and prove that they are worth spending money on to bring in outside help.

Definitely could see this as well, but I am hoping for the best.