2019-20 Kings News/Rumors

[kings11]

If Quick were to get moved to Pittsburgh, I would have a new favorite team in the Eastern Conference.

Yuck Malkin, I think I just threw up in my mouth a little.

I'd put money on him backstopping on more SC Champion with them..

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Blake's gonna re-sign Lewis and Forbort to long-term extensions and trade Bjornfot, JAD, and Vilardi.

 

[Reaper45]

Why is everyone penciling Anderson in as a top 4 right now? He's 20 and clearly not ready to be in the NHL. We have to really temper expectations, remember when everyone had Brickley as Doughty's future forever partner?

 

[kings11]

Why is everyone penciling Anderson in as a top 4 right now? He's 20 and clearly not ready to be in the NHL. We have to really temper expectations, remember when everyone had Brickley as Doughty's future forever partner?

I put him up there because thats where i think he'll play during his call up.. Similar to Toby
Other than that, I think he'll start on the 3rd pairing with Roy though I hope we sign a TVR or Hamonic lessen the learning curve

 

[LAKings88]

Walker Doughty
Amart Anderson .. Marty is likely getting moved because he has term and fetch more this year than next
Clague Roy.... would get destroyed..
MacDermid

Its likely to look more like this after the TDL
Anderson - Doughty
Forbort - Walker
Ryan - Roy
MacDermid

Unless we get a cap filler like a Kevan Miller, TVR, Edmundson, etc... You're going to be greatly disappointed.. That's assuming those teams want one of our players to begin with
Gone
Toffoli
Martinez
Hutton
Lewis
Maybes
Campbell
Clifford
Carter
Quick

I’m already disappointed, but my expectations for this year have already been met.

I just don’t think the fan base will keep tolerating this holding pattern. You don’t have to bring in all youth but you also can’t shelve them for eternity.

 

[LAKings88]

Blake's gonna re-sign Lewis and Forbort to long-term extensions and trade Bjornfot, JAD, and Vilardi.

Go fook right off with that.

 

[LAKings88]

Why is everyone penciling Anderson in as a top 4 right now? He's 20 and clearly not ready to be in the NHL. We have to really temper expectations, remember when everyone had Brickley as Doughty's future forever partner?

The options are slim.
These are LAs top prospects. If “IF” he makes the team it will be as a top four.

So much argument about ruining players but isn’t that the plan to get younger and more skilled? How many more Ryans and Huttons are we gonna go through? It’s a rebuild. As of now are they ready, likely not. More so than this time last year. Will they be in 9 months? TBD.

 

[jfont]

Body Injury

We'll that narrows it down

 

[crassbonanza]

remember when everyone had Brickley as Doughty's future forever partner?

I honestly don't remember that, who was saying that? He was only ranked 18th in the prospect ranking this offseason.

 

[Bandit]

Ughhh the Kings are going to force me to watch this game now

Why?

 

[Little Psycho]

Why?

I thought JAD was playing tonight but looks like he's not

 

[DoktorJeep]

You acknowledge the environment Blake finds himself in, and then criticize him for it?

The reality of it is, it's not just the lack of moves by the Kings since the 2019 deadline, it's the lack of moves in general. This is not the same league it was 20 years ago. Now, most of the time, all you do is send a guy down, call a guy up. The 1 way and 2 way contracts all factor into who does what. It's far less spontaneous. You might want to make a move, but then you have to worry about the cap next year. There's some limit on how much future cap you can take up, so if you have RFA's to sign, you can't always go out and get anyone with term left. Blake can't force things like that.

If the Kings don't trade all their UFA's, and they should, and shouldn't re-sign any of them, but it might be because nobody wants all of them. Not necessarily because Blake is ok with half measures, and enjoys thinking the fans are idiots. Maybe nobody wants Lewis on their 4th line. Nobody here does. Why would highly paid GMs want him?

This whole rebuilding thing isn't going to happen quickly. It's going to be in stages. Slowly. Year after year. It's easier to accept it, than it is to unfairly criticize a GM for not making a thousand moves in a league that just doesn't work that way anymore. You can do the Bob Murray thing, and trade 10 minor league guys back and forth every season, but if you're talking actual NHL contracts, they're not easy to move. To say that's kicking the can down the road, that's not a fair description. Blame the cap, not Blake.

It is poor asset management to be rebuilding and not capitalize on trading pending UFAs.

Did Lombardi ever sell that many pieces in one season? Has any team ever sold 10 different players between January 9th and the trade deadline? Hell, has any team ever sold 10 different players from the beginning of a season to the trade deadline?

It seems like you are setting Blake up to fail, I don't think it is realistic to expect any GM to perform the level of selling you are asking for. You say guys like Forbort/Ryan/Hutton/Lewis are easily moved for assets, but I don't really agree with that sentiment. I really don't think the market is very hot for those players.

I think the only sure bet is that Toffoli gets moved, but I do think a majority of the roster is on the block.

I don’t know if DL ever allowed the roster to stagnate to the point where there was such a large volume of pending UFAs with such low trade value.

If you're expecting 10 trades and calling anything less a half-measure, it might not be sanity governing your expectations.

I expect 2-3 and any more than that would be amazing.

Management’s own statements were that the average age on the roster would be majorly reduced, but they’ve failed to do that proactively since telling that to fans. I said I have no hope of anything significant happening, so amazement isn’t even in the cards.

 

[HeadInjury]

I really don't get all the criticism. The team is getting younger. Players that are UFAs are either having a bounce back year (Toffoli) or at least coming back from injury (Lewis, Forbort). Other vets that may or may not be re-signed this offseason and next are going to be in demand (Clifford, Martinez). Even players that were "untradeable " a year ago, and perhaps still are, have bounced back pretty well (Carter, Quick).

Seems like every year Blake trades away the players he has to, whether that was Muzzin (to maximize value), Kuemper (because he wouldn't be in a position to re-sign) or Thompson (because there were takers).

I fully expect multiple moves. Team is playing decent compared to last year. We are in most games, not constantly getting blown out. Every vet is getting healthy. It's not that we will get massive returns, but we are positioned pretty well right now to maximize whatever value there is.

It's not like you have to worry about Blake convincing himself to be a buyer at the deadline or the team being unable to make good decisions at the draft with the picks they get.

 

[Statto]

It is poor asset management to be rebuilding and not capitalize on trading pending UFAs.



I don’t know if DL ever allowed the roster to stagnate to the point where there was such a large volume of pending UFAs with such low trade value.



Management’s own statements were that the average age on the roster would be majorly reduced, but they’ve failed to do that proactively since telling that to fans. I said I have no hope of anything significant happening, so amazement isn’t even in the cards.

I’ve said repeatedly all year that to trade a player there has to be a market for them. There is no market for players that are not good enough for one of the worst teams in the league. No one is taking anyone unless they think they will improve their team.

There is clearly a market for Toffoli and maybe AMart but after that anything will be outstanding work by Blake and will require some form of witchcraft.

 

[KingsFan7824]

I’m already disappointed, but my expectations for this year have already been met.

I just don’t think the fan base will keep tolerating this holding pattern. You don’t have to bring in all youth but you also can’t shelve them for eternity.

They have to cycle through contracts to open up space. If nobody wants the Kings old players with term, it's going to be a slow process. Plus, all the young guys in Ontario aren't the best young guys. They're ok, but there aren't any top 5 picks there. They need time. Vilardi has that talent, but we know the story there.

It is poor asset management to be rebuilding and not capitalize on trading pending UFAs.

That's great, and you're right, but maybe wait until the deadline to see which UFA's he doesn't trade before criticizing him for it? And again, he can't force other GMs to take a UFA. Someone else needs to want what the Kings have to sell. Other teams have their own players. They have their own young guys. You still have to worry about the cap until the end of the regular season.

 

[Reaper45]

I honestly don't remember that, who was saying that? He was only ranked 18th in the prospect ranking this offseason.

After his first game with the Kings.

 

[Reaper45]

With quite a few teams looking for a winger, i.e. Pittsburgh and Boston, I fully expect good value for Toffoli in a trade.

 

[KingsHockey24]

With quite a few teams looking for a winger, i.e. Pittsburgh and Boston, I fully expect good value for Toffoli in a trade.

Dominik Simon and a 2nd

 

[Reaper45]

Dominik Simon and a 2nd

If the Kings get a 2nd and a 25 year old for Toffoli I'm going to be pissed.

 

[KopitarFAN]

Unpopular opinion, and almost certainly not gonna happen:

Iafallo should be seriously considered to be moved at the deadline, could be a sell high situation (not because he's played so well lately, but he would just be a good 3rd line player on a playoff team).

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

It is poor asset management to be rebuilding and not capitalize on trading pending UFAs.



I don’t know if DL ever allowed the roster to stagnate to the point where there was such a large volume of pending UFAs with such low trade value.



Management’s own statements were that the average age on the roster would be majorly reduced, but they’ve failed to do that proactively since telling that to fans. I said I have no hope of anything significant happening, so amazement isn’t even in the cards.

I didn’t realize the trade deadline passed. I also must’ve imagined previous management failing to move impending UFAs like Justin Williams, Jarret Stoll, Brad Richardson, Rob Scuderi, hung onto Matt Greene, Mike Richards and Marian Gaborik way too long, and added UFAs they couldn’t retain in Sekera, Lucic, Versteeg and Bishop. That’s what current management should be doing, right?

What impending UFAs who still had value did previous management trade for a decent return?

You’re bitching for the sake of it because you don’t like Rob Blake and you just want to see a trade for the heck of it. None of what you wrote makes any sense. Maybe you can pinpoint all these lucrative offers Blake is turning down just to spite you.

 

[KingsHockey24]

If the Kings get a 2nd and a 25 year old for Toffoli I'm going to be pissed.

Galchenyuk is a 25 year old.

Would you be upset if we got him and a 2nd?

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

I didn’t realize the trade deadline passed. I also must’ve imagined previous management failing to move impending UFAs like Justin Williams, Jarret Stoll, Brad Richardson, Rob Scuderi, hung onto Matt Greene, Mike Richards and Marian Gaborik way too long, and added UFAs they couldn’t retain in Sekera, Lucic, Versteeg and Bishop. That’s what current management should be doing, right?

What impending UFAs who still had value did previous management trade for a decent return?

You’re *****ing for the sake of it because you don’t like Rob Blake and you just want to see a trade for the heck of it. None of what you wrote makes any sense. Maybe you can pinpoint all these lucrative offers Blake is turning down just to spite you.

YOu want to see irony?

This wasn't even a week ago:

Firing Stevens and trading Pearson for scraps were major panic moves.

Like I said then, Blake can do no right for some people, damned if he does, damned if he doesn't.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

YOu want to see irony?

This wasn't even a week ago:



Like I said then, Blake can do no right for some people, damned if he does, damned if he doesn't.

Classic example of people bitching for the sake of bitching.

 

[Reaper45]

Galchenyuk is a 25 year old.

Would you be upset if we got him and a 2nd?

Yes.