2018 NHL Entry Draft Thread (Less then 24 Hours Edition)

[Mrb1p]

Yeah, it's true, but Boqvist is also a point producing prodigy, probably more than Zadina.

 

[Runner77]

Yeah, it's true, but Boqvist is also a point producing prodigy, probably more than Zadina.

So all of this exercise was a scenario to favor Dobson and Boqvist as options?

You could have just came forward and reiterated as much.

Where's the icon where we can drink our own piss.

 

[NotProkofievian]

Boqvist is more of a goalscoring prodigy than anything.

 

[Mrb1p]

So all of this exercise was a scenario to favor Dobson and Boqvist as options?

You could have just came forward and reiterated as much.

Where's the icon where we can drink our own piss.

Dobson ? No. Boqvist and kaut/Bokk/Dellandrea ? Yeah.

 

[Runner77]

Dobson ? No. Boqvist and kaut/Bokk/Dellandrea ? Yeah.

You mentioned Dobson and cartwheels at 6 or 7 here: http://hfboards.mandatory.com/posts/145585223/

 

[Yoshidas Island]

If it meant to me that we could get Smith/Boqvist/Hughes/Kotkaniemi at 6, then Kaut/Lundqvist/Dellandrea at 25 then I'd do it.

Honestly if Kaut makes his way into the 20's and we don't trade up I'm going to be so sad.

 

[CapSpace]

I'd pay just to hear WTK use the word "garbage" to refer to players he would never draft. Sign me up, lol.

I'm so down for this.

 

[ZUKI]

That's with the info we have now. We don't know how high Kotakniemi will rank when Bobby Mac comes up with his final list.

I don't think Zadina would be there at 6, most pundits are ranking him 3rd. I can see Boqvist there but not Zadina.

So based on the limited number of slots between 3 and 6:

We'd have 3, 4 and 5 ahead of us. So let's say team 3 goes for Zadina, then team 4 could potentially choose between Wahlstrom and Kotkaniemi. And team 5 could potentially choose between whoever wasn't picked between Wahlstrom and Kotkaniemi. Leaving us with the possibility of going with Boqvist.

Basically, if we really want a forward sniper, 6th spot opens certain possibilities that we don't need to deal with at 3. I'd rather keep 3.

I am sure Ottawa will take Boqvist

 

[The Great Weal]

You guys are ignoring Tkachuk. He can go pretty high and don't be surprised if we pick him if we trade down.

 

[c_robio]

You guys are ignoring Tkachuk. He can go pretty high and don't be surprised if we pick him if we trade down.

I'm hoping the target is Kotkaniemi if trading down. I actually like Tkachuk though unlike most

 

[The Great Weal]

I think the best option to trade down would be with the Rangers. We could get one of these guys Dahlin, Svechnikov, Zadina, Wahlstrom, Boqvist, Hughes, Bouchard, Kotkaniemi, Dobson. Also, most of the teams need defensemen so I think Kotkaniemi could fall there.

 

[The Great Weal]

I'm hoping the target is Kotkaniemi if trading down. I actually like Tkachuk though unlike most

I'm good with Tkachuk at 10.

 

[le_sean]

You guys are ignoring Tkachuk. He can go pretty high and don't be surprised if we pick him if we trade down.

They can’t take him. There are two constant narratives that have been following Bergevin: the team can’t score and the team doesn’t have centres. He doesn’t provide either.

 

[Mrb1p]

Watching some of Dobson at the same time as the Bruins/Bolts game. Kid is so great at gaining the zone its crazy. Effortless stride, bow legged skater just like Niedermeyer.

 

[The Great Weal]

They can’t take him. There are two constant narratives that have been following Bergevin: the team can’t score and the team doesn’t have centres. He doesn’t provide either.

"We aren't trading Sergachev"
"We aren't trading Subban"
Actions speak louder than words. I really doubt we take Tkachuk at 3, but if we trade down, he is a real possibility.

 

[Goldenhands]

Watching some of Dobson at the same time as the Bruins/Bolts game. Kid is so great at gaining the zone its crazy. Effortless stride, bow legged skater just like Niedermeyer.

He loves to carry the puck and support the offense, I saw him do it plenty of times, he just needs to pick his moments a bit better... Best overall package of all Ds, excluding Dahlin of course, too bad he is right handed cause I wouldnt hesitate 1 sec to draft him 3rd overall if he was left handed...

 

[Mrb1p]

He loves to carry the puck and support the offense, I saw him do it plenty of times, he just needs to pick his moments a bit better... Best overall package of all Ds, excluding Dahlin of course, too bad he is right handed cause I wouldnt hesitate 1 sec to draft him 3rd overall if he was left handed...

I really think Boqvist has the best overall package but yeah hes good

 

[Stive Morgan]

Wyatte Wylie on the ice for the whole 2 minutes killing a 4-on-3 powerplay against Swift Current, had a nice block on Giorgio Estephan. Kills the penalty, he steps off the ice and Heponiemi scores seconds later lol. He's such a good defenseman.

 

[The Great Weal]

Wyatte Wylie on the ice for the whole 2 minutes killing a 4-on-3 powerplay against Swift Current, had a nice block on Giorgio Estephan. Kills the penalty, he steps off the ice and Heponiemi scores seconds later lol. He's such a good defenseman.

Where do you think he goes?

 

[Stive Morgan]

Where do you think he goes?

Probably 4th-6th round but I think his #71 CSS ranking is very fair and accurate. Should be a 3rd rounder but you never know.

 

[c_robio]

Interesting read from a stathead Canucks blogger who has Zadina ahead of Svechnikov. He lists his top 100 for the draft

2018 NHL Draft: Spring Rankings

 

[Runner77]

Interesting read from a stathead Canucks blogger who has Zadina ahead of Svechnikov. He lists his top 100 for the draft

2018 NHL Draft: Spring Rankings

Compelling read. He has an analytical approach and crunches a lot of numbers to back up his choices:

The way I see it, there aren’t many things more important than results. Inputs like raw ability, technique, and intelligence are important, but can easily be overrated or underrated individually, leaving the final opinion open to various biases and weighting errors. In contrast, numbers provide a basis that can be checked against tens of thousands of historical examples to compare to and project from. Claims that a player with poor results has all the tools to become a difference maker should be met first and foremost with suspicion. If a player in a junior league is supposed to be highly talented, he should be producing a lot of points. If he isn’t, there had better be a good reason.

Takes a unique approach to Svech vs. Kadina:

Speaking of Andrei Svechnikov (3rd), he and Filip Zadina (2nd) are locked in a duel for second overall. This has been a fantastically close battle all year, and the advantage has switched back and forth at times, following Zadina’s dominant performance at the World Junior Championship, and Svechnikov’s demolition of the competition in the OHL playoffs. Svechnikov is dynamite in nearly every area from a numbers standpoint, but Zadina’s bests him in a few areas. The Czech winger has a slight advantage in Involvement Percentage (as a result of playing for a less talented team) and shots per game, and while Svechnikov has a better 5-on-5 goals for percentage, Zadina has a better GF%rel. Svechnikov is more of a pure goal scorer, while Zadina has a more diverse talent set in the offensive zone. I have Zadina above Svechnikov at this point, but it’s pretty close to a toss up and will likely come down to which trait a team values more.

However, our GM doesn't like to listen to analytics guys who don't validate his pre-conceived ideas. All fine and dandy but will fall on deaf ears.

Mark Pfeiffer, where have you gone? Oh, that's right, you've followed PK to Nashville.

 

[Runner77]

Liked this:

 

[Runner77]

And this too:

 

[Stive Morgan]

Wyatte Wylie and Riley Sutter just absolutely shut down the Swift Current Broncos in those last 2 minutes. Gave them absolutely nothing. Everett does such a great job of coaching their players defensive skills.