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2018 NHL Entry Draft Thread (Less then 24 Hours Edition)

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Spearmint Rhino said:
If we take Hughes then Mete has to go, Boston struggled with 2 midgets on the left side in the playoffs and are looking to change that up. Modern hockey or not you still need to be able to defend in your end on occasion and only so much sheltering you can do especially in your top 4
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It's amazing how different the playoffs are. All of a sudden those warriors and gritty players are way more valuable.
 
yianik said:
When you talk about something too much you can wrap yourself up pretty goid and not see the forest for the trees.

Before we got 3rd OA was Zadina not 3rd OA around here, and on a separate tier from 4thOA ?

Is there a reason he is no longer that in fact, or is it just us over complicating things ?
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Ha... maybe. But to be fair the people on here were pretty high on other guys and many of those guys have since gone of to prove themselves further (Hughes, Wahlstrom, Dobson, Kotkienemi)
 
WinterLion said:
Ha... maybe. But to be fair the people on here were pretty high on other guys and many of those guys have since gone of to prove themselves further (Hughes, Wahlstrom, Dobson, Kotkienemi)
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I have been on the Kotkaniemi train for a while now. So when I said us, I meant it. Lol
 
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yianik said:
When you talk about something too much you can wrap yourself up pretty goid and not see the forest for the trees.

Before we got 3rd OA was Zadina not 3rd OA around here, and on a separate tier from 4thOA ?

Is there a reason he is no longer that in fact, or is it just us over complicating things ?
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It's actually quite the opposite. There was always a healthy debate after the #2 spot around here among regulars.
It was only until it was official we'd pick at 3 did we see a new wave of there being a "concensus Top 3" and Zadina being the clear BPA.

I've had Zadina at 3 in my personal rankings- by like a razor thin margin over Wahlstrom- but always maintained 3-8 being pretty interchangeable. And the more I think about it the more I have Kotkaniemi being just as valid a choice there.
 
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Mrb1p said:
How many D can QB a PP without a shot?
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Well, Hughes does have a shot, it's his slapper that's not very good. But to answer your question: quite a few past and present.

Barrie, Suter (it's almost a running gag), Schultz, Campbell, Martin, Reilly.

Brian Leetch didn't have the best shot from the point. Neither did Niedermayer.

Anyways, you can improve your shot... but if you don't, the best thing you can learn is to consistently get it to the net in the right spot, which is a skill just as valuable.

You always want your players to be able to do it all, but that's almost never the case. Hughes more than makes up for it with the rest of his skill.
 
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Mrb1p said:
Id do it, its more likely that the Habs pick Kotkaniemi this way.
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If they want Kotkaniemi at 4 they won' do this trade. Bobby Mac did state that some teams have him in their top 5 and if the Habs do then they see him a a potential top end center and they'll draft him at 3.
 
Doublechin said:
If they want Kotkaniemi at 4 they won' do this trade. Bobby Mac did state that some teams have him in their top 5 and if the Habs do then they see him a a potential top end center and they'll draft him at 3.
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You have the link to Bob's interview by any chance?
 
Doublechin said:
If they want Kotkaniemi at 4 they won' do this trade. Bobby Mac did state that some teams have him in their top 5 and if the Habs do then they see him a a potential top end center and they'll draft him at 3.
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Lol, interesting right ?

I thought that was a ridiculous notion :rolleyes:
 
I known that small players can handle to play in the NHL now with the different approach of the game . But what i don't like about the selection of small d-men like Hughes is that we still don't known how they will deal in the long run , against bigger and stronger players . How many seasons they will be able to play ?

That said , i would like the Habs to select Boqvist ... :laugh:
 
Spearmint Rhino said:
If we take Hughes then Mete has to go, Boston struggled with 2 midgets on the left side in the playoffs and are looking to change that up. Modern hockey or not you still need to be able to defend in your end on occasion and only so much sheltering you can do especially in your top 4
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Well, at these 'midgets' helped their team make the playoffs.
 
Mrb1p said:
How many D can QB a PP without a shot?
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Why does it have to be a defenceman that 'QB's a powerplay? On many teams, its the team's best forward that serves that role (McDavid, Kane and Matthews). On other teams, its a forward that serves as the "cannon" ( Ovechkin, Stamkos and Laine). On some teams, the powerplay features a defenceman with a heavy intimidating shot (Weber, Subban and Souray). There is no set pattern for a successful power play as each team designs their power play to take advantage of the strengths of their particular players. But the one thing that all successful power plays require is a puck transporter who can consistently gain possession of the puck in the offensive zone. Without that particular talent, no power play will ever be successful. Hughes will provide any team that drafts him with this essential element. Whether he has a great shot or not is largely irrelevant. That won't be his role. McDavid does not possess a particularly hard shot. Does that make him less dangerous? Montreal invested millions in Weber. Let him shoot the puck.
 
ChesterNimitz said:
Why does it have to be a defenceman that 'QB's a powerplay? On many teams, its the team's best forward that serves that role (McDavid, Kane and Matthews). On other teams, its a forward that serves as the "cannon" ( Ovechkin, Stamkos and Laine). On some teams, the powerplay features a defenceman with a heavy intimidating shot (Weber, Subban and Souray). There is no set pattern for a successful power play as each team designs their power play to take advantage of the strengths of their particular players. But the one thing that all successful power plays require is a puck transporter who can consistently gain possession of the puck in the offensive zone. Without that particular talent, no power play will ever be successful. Hughes will provide any team that drafts him with this essential element. Whether he has a great shot or not is largely irrelevant. That won't be his role. McDavid does not possess a particularly hard shot. Does that make him less dangerous? Montreal invested millions in Weber. Let him shoot the puck.
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One constant factor is that if the "qb" doesnt present a shooting threat, then he's cast out on the perimeter and doesnt do much. Its been like that forever, and it wil never change. Drouin, Desharnais, Gomez...
 
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Spearmint Rhino said:
Maybe we can aim a little higher
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After years of mismanagement, no player we draft this year will convert the current edition of this team into a contender. Even assuming a new, competent management team, it will be years before we can realistically view this team as a contender. In the interim, let us all hope for at least an incremental improvement in the team's performance. Making the playoffs would be a good start. But with the incompetents who are presently managing this storied franchise, even this tepid hope may be wishful thinking.
 
Mrb1p said:
One constant factor is that if the "qb" doesnt present a shooting threat, then he's cast out on the perimeter and doesnt do much. Its been like that forever, and it wil never change. Drouin, Desharnais, Gomez...
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I'll take McDavid on the sideboards, and you can have anyone else you want.
 
You guys a making this too complicated. It's not a 1 year/1 off season rebuild. We need to go full on rebuild. Just take the BPA at 3rd overall and if next year we have the chance to get a center, we do it.

Do you think Chicago debated much if they should pick Kane 1st overall? Did Philly thought about drafting Turris over JVR because he's a center?

Did Washington think at all when picking Karl Alzner 5th overall?:sarcasm:

It's a long rebuild. Pick Zadina. Forget about Cookie.
 
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