2018 NHL Entry Draft Thread (Less then 24 Hours Edition)

[WinterLion]

You mean like PK ?

PK has the big shot and is big and tough defensively, so that makes up for his lack of playmaking. Hughes does not have those advantages.

 

[WinterLion]

Now imagine Svechnikov comes out and says something along the lines of "Oh helll naw, I ain't playin' in Carolina, I wanna play in a real hockey city, a cold,cold city that reminds me of home. A place of ice and slush."

BAM, Carolina picks Zadina, Habs pick Svechnikov.

Let's just start a rumour!!

 

[Mrb1p]

Theres nothing Hughes does better than Boqvist anyway.

 

[admiralcadillac]

Theres nothing Hughes does better than Boqvist anyway.

They're weird to compare because both seem totally different subjectively and extremely similar from an objective perspective

 

[le_sean]

Well if the Habs wanted to draft a player ready for their team next season, it won’t be Tkachuk.

 

[admiralcadillac]

Well if the Habs wanted to draft a player ready for their team next season, it won’t be Tkachuk.

Fantastiche

 

[Janne Niinimaa]

I don't think I've ever had this hard of a time trying to rank players and predict who picks who in the top 10.

 

[WinterLion]

Theres nothing Hughes does better than Boqvist anyway.

ummmm.... skate?

 

[Adam Michaels]

Well if the Habs wanted to draft a player ready for their team next season, it won’t be Tkachuk.

He may drop in the draft because of this.

And Bergevin didn't say he wants a player ready to play in NHL next year. He said picking 3rd gives you the chance to pick someone who will be ready sooner rather than later.

 

[The Great Weal]

I don’t think it’s good enough. Players will just clear a lane for the NHL goalie to see and he’ll be stopped. There’s no threat. I love the kid but it’s a big concern for me.

If it was like Beaulieu or Mete, I would agree. But it is much better. Chabot used to have a pretty bad shot too if I recall corecctly. Hughes will only gain more muscle.

 

[WinterLion]

Scott Wheeler released his top 100 for the Atletic.

Wheeler: Final ranking for the 2018 NHL draft's top 100...

Highlights:

Zadina #3 - in a tier about the next 6 players.

Hughes #4

Kotkienemi #9 the first of the next tier.

Tkachuk #8 ... seems about right...

Dobson after Merkley !

 

[Mrb1p]

ummmm.... skate?

Not really. Boqvist is one of the best pure skater in this draft too... There's not much difference.

 

[WinterLion]

Not really. Boqvist is one of the best pure skater in this draft too... There's not much difference.

I am with you on a lot of things, but I cannot agree with you on this!!

 

[Mrb1p]

I am with you on a lot of things, but I cannot agree with you on this!!

I know Hughes is a great skater, but it doesn't mean Boqvist isn't a great skater.

Is McDavid a better skater than Karlsson ? It's kinda the same way..

 

[The Great Weal]

Not really. Boqvist is one of the best pure skater in this draft too... There's not much difference.

Strongly disagree

 

[WickedPegJets]

It appears Brady Tkachuk has ruled out spending the 2018-19 season in the NHL.
According to Mike McMahon of College Hockey News, Tkachuk will return to Boston University for his sophomore season in the fall.

 

[WickedPegJets]

It appears Brady Tkachuk has ruled out spending the 2018-19 season in the NHL.
According to Mike McMahon of College Hockey News, Tkachuk will return to Boston University for his sophomore season in the fall.

Could it be that Brady T didn't want the dysfunctional Habs to draft him?

 

[The Great Weal]

I know Hughes is a great skater, but it doesn't mean Boqvist isn't a great skater.

Absolutely. However, Hughes is flat out better.

 

[Mrb1p]

That's grasping at straws. Both are elite at it, it doesn't matter, and it's exactly my point, everything Hughes does, Boqvist can do, and more.

 

[Habs Halifax]

I don't think I've ever had this hard of a time trying to rank players and predict who picks who in the top 10.

Depth is there. Picks 1-15 are good ones! Wonder who is the bust in this top 15? There is a bust every year... is this year the exception?

 

[Habs Icing]

In the end....we might be in a position when you actually have no choice but to pick Zadina but....it might not be the best pick in the end. Not because he won't be good. But because other might end up better. I don't think you will be wrong with him. Pretty sure you won't. For me, it will hurt seeing Hughes go. A whole lot. Let's hope for my sake that he doesn't translate.....

But BPA is Zadina after Dahlin and Svech. Hughes is No4 for me though.

So let me ask you if Timmims drafts Hughes will it hurt to see Zadina go?

 

[sandviper]

Depth is there. Picks 1-15 are good ones! Wonder who is the bust in this top 15? There is a bust every year... is this year the exception?

Just using 2007 as a start point, I looked for players with less than 60 games drafted in the top-15.

2007 - Zach Hamill (#8)
2008 - Nikita Filatov (#6), Kyle Beach (#11) and Colten Teubert (#13)
2009 - Scott Glennie (#8)
2010 - Dylan McIlrath (#10), Jack Campbell (#11), Brandon Gormley (#13)
2011 - Duncan Siemens (#11)
2012 - Griffin Reinhart (#4), Slater Koekkoek (#10)
2013 - Samuel Morin (#11), Ryan Pulock (#15)
2014 - Michael Dal Colle (#5), Julius Honka (#14)

I suppose we could look at 2015-2017, but it isn't really fair since most drafted would have still been in the junior leagues. However, for the sake of this discussion, since we are picking #3, here are top-3 draft picks who have yet to contribute regularly to their teams:

2015 - Dylan Strome (#3)
2016 - Everyone is a starter.
2017 - Miro Heiskanen, but he is only 18 now and he was just drafted.

So, keeping with 2007 to 2014, we could say there were 15 who couldn't make it to the show. During this period, all players drafted in the top-3 made it.

This of course means nothing for 2018, but it's statistically improbable all 15 this year will be NHLers. On the plus side, we are not picking #11... that came up 4 times in a seven year span.

 

[le_sean]

Just using 2007 as a start point, I looked for players with less than 60 games drafted in the top-15.

2007 - Zach Hamill (#8)
2008 - Nikita Filatov (#6), Kyle Beach (#11) and Colten Teubert (#13)
2009 - Scott Glennie (#8)
2010 - Dylan McIlrath (#10), Jack Campbell (#11), Brandon Gormley (#13)
2011 - Duncan Siemens (#11)
2012 - Griffin Reinhart (#4), Slater Koekkoek (#10)
2013 - Samuel Morin (#11), Ryan Pulock (#15)
2014 - Michael Dal Colle (#5), Julius Honka (#14)

I suppose we could look at 2015-2017, but it isn't really fair since most drafted would have still been in the junior leagues. However, for the sake of this discussion, since we are picking #3, here are top-3 draft picks who have yet to contribute regularly to their teams:

2015 - Dylan Strome (#3)
2016 - Everyone is a starter.
2017 - Miro Heiskanen, but he is only 18 now and he was just drafted.

So, keeping with 2007 to 2014, we could say there were 15 who couldn't make it to the show. During this period, all players drafted in the top-3 made it.

This of course means nothing for 2018, but it's statistically improbable all 15 this year will be NHLers. On the plus side, we are not picking #11... that came up 4 times in a seven year span.

Almost all players with skating issues. And not the Zadina “well he could be quicker,” but flat out bad skaters.

 

[Mrb1p]

Almost all players with skating issues. And not the Zadina “well he could be quicker,” but flat out bad skaters.

B-b-b-b-b-b--baaarret.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Just using 2007 as a start point, I looked for players with less than 60 games drafted in the top-15.

2007 - Zach Hamill (#8)
2008 - Nikita Filatov (#6), Kyle Beach (#11) and Colten Teubert (#13)
2009 - Scott Glennie (#8)
2010 - Dylan McIlrath (#10), Jack Campbell (#11), Brandon Gormley (#13)
2011 - Duncan Siemens (#11)
2012 - Griffin Reinhart (#4), Slater Koekkoek (#10)
2013 - Samuel Morin (#11), Ryan Pulock (#15)
2014 - Michael Dal Colle (#5), Julius Honka (#14)

I suppose we could look at 2015-2017, but it isn't really fair since most drafted would have still been in the junior leagues. However, for the sake of this discussion, since we are picking #3, here are top-3 draft picks who have yet to contribute regularly to their teams:

2015 - Dylan Strome (#3)
2016 - Everyone is a starter.
2017 - Miro Heiskanen, but he is only 18 now and he was just drafted.

So, keeping with 2007 to 2014, we could say there were 15 who couldn't make it to the show. During this period, all players drafted in the top-3 made it.

This of course means nothing for 2018, but it's statistically improbable all 15 this year will be NHLers. On the plus side, we are not picking #11... that came up 4 times in a seven year span.

You forgot Yakupov and I think we expect the top 15 in each draft to play more than 60 games? Especially the picks up to the 2012 draft.

Lets look at the 2007 draft alone:
- Hamill (8), Ellerby (10), Plante (15) are for sure busts.
- Alzner, Sutter, Eller are decent NHL players but fringe disappointments. If Bouchard turned into Alzner, I think that team would be disappointed. If Hayton turned into Sutter or Eller, I think there is disappointment

We can't say the 2018 top 15 are NHL locks for sure and there won't be disappointments. They do look good today but 12 months from now, the story will change for a lot of prospects. How do you feel about Nolan Patrick today? It's not like he had a terrible season but 30 pts in 73 games? Would you trade the 3rd overall pick for him today based on what you have seen so far?

Who has more value right now? Kotkaniemi or Patrick?