2018 NHL Entry Draft Thread (Less then 24 Hours Edition)

[Mrb1p]

It's not like this the last chance this team will have to draft a potential top center. If anything, next year's crop looks much more promising with tons of very very good centermen. Drafting a top line scoring winger now and a talented center next year will work just fine in building a contender. There's little sense in rushing things and passIng on superior talent for the sake of filling an immediate need.

True, but in this case, the center is equal talent

 

[ProspectsSTC]

My 2 round rankings as of right now:

1	Rasmus Dahlin
2	Andrei Svechnikov
3	Adam Boqvist
4	Filip Zadina
5	Noah Dobson
6	Quinn Hughes
7	Jesperi Kotkaniemi
8	Oliver Wahlstrom
9	Evan Bouchard
10	Ty Smith
11	Brady Tkachuk
12	Vitali Kravtsov
13	Joel Farabee
14	Barrett Hayton
15	Grigori Denisenko
16	Isac Lundestrom
17	Martin Kaut
18	Joseph Veleno
19	Akil Thomas
20	Bulat Shafigullin
21	Jake Wise
22	Jonatan Berggren
23	Rasmus Sandin
24	Nils Lundkvist
25	Bode Wilde
26	Dominik Bokk
27	Ty Dellandrea
28	Rasmus Kupari
29	Serron Noel
30	David Gustafsson
31	Jesse Ylonen
32	Jonny Tychonick
33	Mattias Samuelsson
34	Alexander Alexeyev
35	Filip Hallander
36	Ruslan Ishkakov
37	Cam Hillis
38	Blake McLaughlin
39	Jared McIsaac
40	Ryan Merkley
41	Jett Woo
42	Jack Drury
43	Calen Addison
44	Nicolas Beaudin
45	Danila Zhuravylov
46	Cole Fonstad
47	Jacob Olofsson
48	Ryan McLeod
49	Liam Foudy
50	Ivan Morozov
51	Jakub Lauko
52	Jacob Bernard-Docker
53	Johnny Gruden
54	Alexander Khovanov
55	Jay O'Brien
56	Kevin Bahl
57	K'Andre Miller
58	Kirill Marchenko
59	Allan McShane
60	Niklas Nordgren
61	Ryan O'Reilly
62	Xavier Bernard

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

I'm trying to figure out how much I value upside vs NHL translation, I don't have Ginning ranked right now but he'll likely make it in a bottom pairing role above many of these players, I just don't know if I'd take him over the potential of any of them.

 

[yianik]

My 2 round rankings as of right now:

1	Rasmus Dahlin
2	Andrei Svechnikov
3	Adam Boqvist
4	Filip Zadina
5	Noah Dobson
6	Quinn Hughes
7	Jesperi Kotkaniemi
8	Oliver Wahlstrom
9	Evan Bouchard
10	Ty Smith
11	Brady Tkachuk
12	Vitali Kravtsov
13	Joel Farabee
14	Barrett Hayton
15	Grigori Denisenko
16	Isac Lundestrom
17	Martin Kaut
18	Joseph Veleno
19	Akil Thomas
20	Bulat Shafigullin
21	Jake Wise
22	Jonatan Berggren
23	Rasmus Sandin
24	Nils Lundkvist
25	Bode Wilde
26	Dominik Bokk
27	Ty Dellandrea
28	Rasmus Kupari
29	Serron Noel
30	David Gustafsson
31	Jesse Ylonen
32	Jonny Tychonick
33	Mattias Samuelsson
34	Alexander Alexeyev
35	Filip Hallander
36	Ruslan Ishkakov
37	Cam Hillis
38	Blake McLaughlin
39	Jared McIsaac
40	Ryan Merkley
41	Jett Woo
42	Jack Drury
43	Calen Addison
44	Nicolas Beaudin
45	Danila Zhuravylov
46	Cole Fonstad
47	Jacob Olofsson
48	Ryan McLeod
49	Liam Foudy
50	Ivan Morozov
51	Jakub Lauko
52	Jacob Bernard-Docker
53	Johnny Gruden
54	Alexander Khovanov
55	Jay O'Brien
56	Kevin Bahl
57	K'Andre Miller
58	Kirill Marchenko
59	Allan McShane
60	Niklas Nordgren
61	Ryan O'Reilly
62	Xavier Bernard

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

I'm trying to figure out how much I value upside vs NHL translation, I don't have Ginning ranked right now but he'll likely make it in a bottom pairing role above many of these players, I just don't know if I'd take him over the potential of any of them.

Bottom pairing guys and 4th liners cost nothing to get by trade.

My view is you always go for the upside. I mean if you draft 6 bottom pairing D, are they worth 1 no.3 D ? No.

 

[Fozz]

True, but in this case, the center is equal talent

Too easy. Different skillsets, different talents. Besides, there's no part of Kotkaniemi's game that has good as Zadina's scoring talent.

 

[WinterLion]

My 2 round rankings as of right now:

1	Rasmus Dahlin
2	Andrei Svechnikov
3	Adam Boqvist
4	Filip Zadina
5	Noah Dobson
6	Quinn Hughes
7	Jesperi Kotkaniemi
8	Oliver Wahlstrom
9	Evan Bouchard
10	Ty Smith
11	Brady Tkachuk
12	Vitali Kravtsov
13	Joel Farabee
14	Barrett Hayton
15	Grigori Denisenko
16	Isac Lundestrom
17	Martin Kaut
18	Joseph Veleno
19	Akil Thomas
20	Bulat Shafigullin
21	Jake Wise
22	Jonatan Berggren
23	Rasmus Sandin
24	Nils Lundkvist
25	Bode Wilde
26	Dominik Bokk
27	Ty Dellandrea
28	Rasmus Kupari
29	Serron Noel
30	David Gustafsson
31	Jesse Ylonen
32	Jonny Tychonick
33	Mattias Samuelsson
34	Alexander Alexeyev
35	Filip Hallander
36	Ruslan Ishkakov
37	Cam Hillis
38	Blake McLaughlin
39	Jared McIsaac
40	Ryan Merkley
41	Jett Woo
42	Jack Drury
43	Calen Addison
44	Nicolas Beaudin
45	Danila Zhuravylov
46	Cole Fonstad
47	Jacob Olofsson
48	Ryan McLeod
49	Liam Foudy
50	Ivan Morozov
51	Jakub Lauko
52	Jacob Bernard-Docker
53	Johnny Gruden
54	Alexander Khovanov
55	Jay O'Brien
56	Kevin Bahl
57	K'Andre Miller
58	Kirill Marchenko
59	Allan McShane
60	Niklas Nordgren
61	Ryan O'Reilly
62	Xavier Bernard

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

I'm trying to figure out how much I value upside vs NHL translation, I don't have Ginning ranked right now but he'll likely make it in a bottom pairing role above many of these players, I just don't know if I'd take him over the potential of any of them.

Nicely done!! Thanks!! I'm curious about the two big Swedish C's. Some people have Gustafsson higher, others Olofsson. I like them both myself...

 

[ProspectsSTC]

Nicely done!! Thanks!! I'm curious about the two big Swedish C's. Some people have Gustafsson higher, others Olofsson. I like them both myself...

I think Gustafsson definitely needs to improve his skating but he's a remarkably smart player and I think he could excel in the cycle game at the NHL level. I'd rather have to have a prospect improve skating than decision making or intelligence.

Olofsson looks fine, nothing really jumps out about him though and I have a hard time seeing more than a 3rd liner in him.

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

This kid needs more hype. Only 2 pages? His stats are not great but he's on a loaded team with older players who get the big minutes.

The goal tonight:


And he had this snipe on Thursday:

If this kid was from Finland we'd probably be hearing alot more positive reviews on this board...

 

[The Great Weal]

If this kid was from Finland we'd probably be hearing alot more positive reviews on this board...

If he actually produced great numbers on the best team in the CHL, why wouldn't we?

 

[The Great Weal]

Damn, if Hughes keeps this up, I will have to think about him or Boqvist again.

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

If he actually produced great numbers on the best team in the CHL, why wouldn't we?

You do realize that the fact he's behind Morgan Frost works against him right?

 

[The Great Weal]

You do realize that the fact he's behind Morgan Frost works against him right?

You would still want him to produce on that team. Anyways, there s no point in talking about Hayton because we aren't drafting him.

 

[Mrb1p]

You do realize that the fact he's behind Morgan Frost works against him right?

He played on Frosts wing plenty.

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

You would still want him to produce on that team. Anyways, there s no point in talking about Hayton because we aren't drafting him.

If we get a later lotto pick for Pacioretty I could definitely see it.

 

[WinterLion]

If this kid was from Finland we'd probably be hearing alot more positive reviews on this board...

I definitely have a soft spot for the Finns, but I am also not a fan of drafting Hayton in the top 15... after that... sure.

 

[WeThreeKings]

I definitely have a soft spot for the Finns, but I am also not a fan of drafting Hayton in the top 15... after that... sure.

I'd consider Hayton if we drafted Zadina at #3 and we procured the #13th overall pick from Dallas in a Pacioretty deal (just something I saw from both fans on the trade board).

But that's about it.

 

[Mrb1p]

Hayton wouldnt even be BPA in the 2nd round, screw that.

 

[Habs Icing]

I'd consider Hayton if we drafted Zadina at #3 and we procured the #13th overall pick from Dallas in a Pacioretty deal (just something I saw from both fans on the trade board).

But that's about it.

Even if Kockamamie is still on the board?

 

[WeThreeKings]

Even if Kockamamie is still on the board?

Nope.

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

Hayton wouldnt even be BPA in the 2nd round, screw that.

That's a bit harsh fam , he's certainly not elite but he's not that bad. With some improvements to his skating he'll be a very safe bet to at least be a decent pro. He plays a very pro friendly game and he's got enough individual tools . He's not a manlet either .

 

[WeThreeKings]

@Mrb1p is replacing me for heavy hyperbole. He just has to best my Poehling melt down and we all good.

 

[G0bias]

I'd consider Hayton if we drafted Zadina at #3 and we procured the #13th overall pick from Dallas in a Pacioretty deal (just something I saw from both fans on the trade board).

But that's about it.

I'd probably rather just trade him for a 2019 first in that case. There's also the option to move in late first and grab Dellandrea who's just as interesting.

 

[Mrb1p]

That's a bit harsh fam , he's certainly not elite but he's not that bad. With some improvements to his skating he'll be a very safe bet to at least be a decent pro. He plays a very pro friendly game and he's got enough individual tools . He's not a manlet either .

Ah, the decent pro category

 

[Mrb1p]

Haytons gonna be a third liner, i dont even give a flying crap about it.

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

Dude's a late birthday, has all the skills, and plays a complete game. What's not to like? I'm not saying take him at 3, but if a Pacioretty deal goes down for a pick in the 10-15 range he should be considered. Sometimes players bust out their post draft season... Hayton could be one of those guys.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Hayton has 2C upside and has the pro potential to be someone a coach trusts.. the thing about him is, you can say.. he has an above average shot, but he doesn't have any elite shots.. above average hands, but not elite hands, he is good passer but not a great passer, he's not small but he's not big, he's a good skater but not a great skater. He has good production but not great production.