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Prospect Info: 2018-2019 Rangers Prospects Thread (Stats in Post #1; Updated 4.25.19)

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Beacon said:
A couple years ago, TSN counted the odds and late first rounders had a 75-80% chance of being a 4th liner or a minor leaguer. Presumably #36 has worse odds than that. If we give up #36 and #50, what are the odds we would've gotten an above average NHLer?
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I don't know, what's a late first rounder? How do they classify a fourth liner? What is the difference in odds between a late first rounder and #36? What is an above-average NHL player? I don't know any of this so I can't answer your question.

Regardless, your post didn't really address my point. It actually kind of reinforced it. Incomplete information, assumptions, etc. But, whatever, I don't really care to belabor the earlier points.
 
nyr2k2 said:
I don't know, what's a late first rounder? How do they classify a fourth liner? What is the difference in odds between a late first rounder and #36? What is an above-average NHL player? I don't know any of this so I can't answer your question.

Regardless, your post didn't really address my point. It actually kind of reinforced it. Incomplete information, assumptions, etc. But, whatever, I don't really care to belabor the earlier points.
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Theres psych research that when faced with facts against their opinion, almost everyone just digs in their heels by picking on things that dont matter. But my point is that the odds of a second rounder being a useful NHL player with trade value are low - much lower than the odds of Fox getting there. A #36 has better odds than #56, but marginally better and not close to the odds of Fox being a top-4 defenseman. By all means, get Fox for a third, but if Toronto offers a pair of seconds and hes willing to sign there, are we not better off with Fox than 2+2+Gettinger?
 
Lethbridge down 3-2 start of the third, Game Seven. Elmer without a point. If Lethbridge goes out, Elmer could realistically get 3-4 AHL games under his belt with an ATO.
 
Lethbridge lost 4-2 in Game 7. Elmer is free to sign an ATO. He could conceivably play the Hartford games on the 6th and 7th but would likely wait until the 12th and play the final 3, if he plays at all.
 
Ragnarsson and Almtuna are rolling 7-1. By my count Ragnarsson is +5, with 2A. If the day's results hold, Almtuna still find themselves a point outside of the promotion zone to remain in Allsvenskan next year. Otherwise, they're in Hockeyettan, and you'd sure as shit hope Ragnarsson could get loaned out. I believe there would still be four games left for each team after today, though.

Also, Lakatos managed to get into a playoff game and actually see some really minutes--just under 12.
 
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nyr2k2 said:
Ragnarsson and Almtuna are rolling 7-1. By my count Ragnarsson is +5, though no points. If the day's results hold, Almtuna still find themselves a point outside of the promotion zone to remain in Allsvenskan next year. Otherwise, they're in Hockeyettan, and you'd sure as **** hope Ragnarsson could get loaned out. I believe there would still be four games left for each team after today, though.
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Ragnarsson had 2 assists today.

Each team plays 10 total games, home and away against the 5 other opponents. Kristianstad is currently 2-0 up against Boden. Assuming they win, they overtake Almtuna.

Almtuna's 4 remaining games:
vs Hudiksvall (5)
@ Boden (6)
@ Vita Hästen (1)
vs Kristianstad (2)

Kristianstad's 4 remaining games:
@ Vita Hästen (1)
vs Hudiksvall (5)
vs Tranås (4)
@ Almtuna (3)

Looks like that last game will decide who plays in Allsvenskan and who will be in HockeyEttan.

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Leksands takes a 2-1 lead with 3 minutes to go!

If they hang on, they take a 3-1 lead in the series. Calle Själin's team very close to promotion!
 
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Joey Bones said:
The full promotion? Or the lead in the series?
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The lead in the series. They are up 3-1 now. My initial post was deleted and I didn't really feel like copy-pasting the text again.

But Leksands needs 1 more win in the final 3 games to win promotion to SHL. But f*** it. I am just going to be really lazy and paste the text I still have open in one of my notepad files:

Big day for our EU prospects today.

Själin's team Leksands beat Mora 2-1 and has taken a 3-1 lead in a best of 7 for direct promotion. Historic moment potentially later this week.

Lundkvist's team Luleå is facing Frölunda in the final 4 of the SHL play offs.

Ragnarsson's team Almtuna won 7-1 today and are in 3rd with 4 games to go in a round robin (Top 2 win promotion to Allsvenskan, the 2nd level)

Shestyorkin's team won today, series tied at 2-2 in the conf final of the Gagarin Cup play offs (KHL)

Lakatos's team won game 1 of the best of 7 in the semi finals of the Czech play offs

Lindbom's team plays in the semi finals, game 1 on Saturday, in the SuperElit semi-finals (u20)

Rykov and Reunanen were eliminated in the last few weeks, but Reunanen was selected for the senior national team today! Big day for him. Rykov was selected for the Russian Olympic team (B-team) for 2 games in Minsk, Belarus this weekend.

Pajuniemi's season seems to be over.
 
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Amazing Kreiderman said:
The lead in the series. They are up 3-1 now. My initial post was deleted and I didn't really feel like copy-pasting the text again.

But Leksands needs 1 more win in the final 3 games to win promotion to SHL. But **** it. I am just going to be really lazy and paste the text I still have open in one of my notepad files:

Big day for our EU prospects today.

Själin's team Leksands beat Mora 2-1 and has taken a 3-1 lead in a best of 7 for direct promotion. Historic moment potentially later this week.

Lundkvist's team Luleå is facing Frölunda in the final 4 of the SHL play offs.

Ragnarsson's team Almtuna won 7-1 today and are in 3rd with 4 games to go in a round robin (Top 2 win promotion to Allsvenskan, the 2nd level)

Shestyorkin's team won today, series tied at 2-2 in the conf final of the Gagarin Cup play offs (KHL)

Lakatos's team won game 1 of the best of 7 in the semi finals of the Czech play offs

Lindbom's team plays in the semi finals, game 1 on Saturday, in the SuperElit semi-finals (u20)

Rykov and Reunanen were eliminated in the last few weeks, but Reunanen was selected for the senior national team today! Big day for him. Rykov was selected for the Russian Olympic team (B-team) for 2 games in Minsk, Belarus this weekend.

Pajuniemi's season seems to be over.
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Is that for the WC in a few weeks?
 
Joey Bones said:
Is that for the WC in a few weeks?
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Euro Challenge against Denmark, followed by the Carlson Games (EHT) against CZE. SWE and RUS in Brno (I'll be at those games) and then hopefully WC in Bratislava (again, will be at some games there).

I hope Tarmo can keep his spot on the team after the Denmark games
 
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Irishguy42 said:
Take a lead in the series.
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Yeah.

Leksand is playing Mora for a spot in the SHL next season, Leksand would be promoted from the 2nd tier division and Mora would keep their spot if they win.

Leksand is a legendary team in Swedish hockey. Only 15k live in the city. But they have always had a great hockey tradition and rich industrialists around the team and has managed to play in the top league for big parts of the last 4 decades. Also produced a lot of good players.

So everything is sunny in Leksand and they have everything to win and nothing to lose since they are a real underdog fairy tale team? Nope, lately their "little brother", next door city Mora with a population of 20k, have done exactly the same thing they have done and reached the SHL. The rivalry between these two teams is probably second to none in the hockey world right now.
 
I would say the price for Fox should be two picks, maybe a third this year and then a conditional second if he signs. The conditional would have to be in June of 21, I guess, since he has until August of next year to sign, right?. It's a little steep for a guy we think we could get for free, but thinking isn't knowing and if he gets out there on the market, maybe the lure of a contending team makes him rethink his plans.
 
A big day for Rangers prospect Calle Själin and his team Leksands IF. They are 1 win away from promotion to SHL! They take on Mora in game 5 today (7:30 PM CET / 1:30 PM EST). Själin is skating with the team after his concussion, but not yet playing. They are not taking any risks with him, with a 3-1 lead in the series.
 
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A big day for Rangers prospect Calle Själin and his team Leksands IF. They are 1 win away from promotion to SHL! They take on Mora in game 5 today (7:30 PM CET / 1:30 PM EST). Själin is skating with the team after his concussion, but not yet playing. They are not taking any risks with him, with a 3-1 lead in the series.
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Really hope they make it. SHL next year would be great for his progress as a prospect (hopefully no injuries either).
 
apoptygma said:
Really hope they make it. SHL next year would be great for his progress as a prospect (hopefully no injuries either).
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HockeyAllsvenskan is still a good league to develop. It's not like the NA-model with major and minor hockey. It's a promotion/relegation system and while not really the same level, HA is still a top-10 league in the world.

They need to win 1 of their next 3. Let's see
 
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MahomesIsGod said:
I would comfortably say that Chytil, Kravstov, and Miller are a clear step above Fox. I think Howden will end up just as valuable if not more so in the long run. Andersson, we’ll see, I don’t know how I feel about him right now. Just gonna let that one play itself out.

Anyway, I wouldn’t come close to offering two 2nds and a b prospect for Fox. I remember Erixon being much more hyped, not to mention the fact that he was playing in a Mens leaugue while Fox is playing at an NCAA program not known for churning out stud NHL players. Sucks that he busted, but he was very highly regarded at the time.

I would be okay with Tampa’s 2nd, or our 3rd if Tampa wins the cup.
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I think in comparing Fox to our other top prospects there are a few with higher ceilings but I think he's looked on as having a higher floor.
 
Jakob Ragnarsson and Almtuna had another moster win today, 7-1 vs Hudiksvalls HC. Ragnarsson was +2 but did not get any points in 18:38 TOI. They are now 1st in the race to stay in HockeyAllsvenskan

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Harbour Dog said:
Do the bottom four teams get automatically relegated, or do they play in the promotion games of the lower division?
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This "post season league" consists of the bottom 2 teams of Allsvenskan (2nd level) and the top-4 teams of HockeyEttan (3rd level). The teams play home and away so 10 games in total.

The no 1 and 2 will play in Allsvenskan and the others go to HockeyEttan.
 
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