2018-19 Stanley Cup Playoffs part III: Final 4

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Bettman spearheaded getting rid of "old time hockey" and I believe those in traditional hockey markets feel he favors the non-traditional markets because they need to succeed. To make the game more enticing to these non-traditional markets, those that hate him feel like he has softened and monkeyed with the game.

Fans don't give a **** about how good he has been for the owners and most fans side with the players in labor disputes. Gary is the figurehead of an entire lost season and two half seasons. It's easy to understand why he is hated: plus he looks like a weasel.

Softening the sport isn’t unique to Bettman or the NHL, though, so that’s a little unfair to lay at his feet. Every contact sport has gone through a major shift in recent years.

I have mixed feelings when it comes to that. On one hand, hardcore blood and guts hockey of the 90s and earlier was epic and almost more than a sport. It was nearly gladiatorial. And I do miss it.

But on the other hand, I can’t fault anyone for trying to keep people safe. Guys getting their careers cut in half because some goon jumps on them is no good. Yes, that has given rise to more “rat” hockey, but that’s an acceptable price for everyone’s health.

Ultimately, it is indeed just a sport.
 
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Softening the sport isn’t unique to Bettman or the NHL, though, so that’s a little unfair to lay at his feet. Every contact sport has gone through a major shift in recent years.

I have mixed feelings when it comes to that. On one hand, hardcore blood and guts hockey of the 90s and earlier was epic and almost more than a sport. It was nearly gladiatorial. And I do miss it.

But on the other hand, I can’t fault anyone for trying to keep people safe. Guys getting their careers cut in half because some goon jumps on them is no good. Yes, that has given rise to more “rat” hockey, but that’s an acceptable price for everyone’s health.

Ultimately, it is indeed just a sport.

I understand that is where most people are at today, even though I'm not and never will be as that feeling of "anything could happen" and the rivalries it sparked really set hockey apart from everything else. I feel that I've been more into the NFL the last few years even as they get softer since there is still a lever of contact in that sport that can't just be legislated away like they are doing in hockey.

Am I a caveman? Whatever. I also like liquor, sex and junk food. Sue me.

Back to Bettman, he started softening it before the other sports. The NBA guy came in and wanted to turn hockey into basketball. When you look at it for when he came in to his position, the instigator started that season and is attributed to him even though it was already in place. Then there is a lockout shortly after he takes the position, killing all the momentum the NHL had going after the Rangers in '94. Then we get the Fox contract and laser beams and shit that had all of the old school people dying.

I feel like he earned his hatred early on and it hasn't gone away for those that were die hard fans back then. New fans don't know jack shit about him and don't care but the older markets--and Canada--still dislike him. Doesn't help in Canada that he was at the helm for Quebec and Winnipeg leaving and then how he's basically propped up a god damn corpse in Arizona for years and years.
 
I understand that is where most people are at today, even though I'm not and never will be as that feeling of "anything could happen" and the rivalries it sparked really set hockey apart from everything else. I feel that I've been more into the NFL the last few years even as they get softer since there is still a lever of contact in that sport that can't just be legislated away like they are doing in hockey.

Am I a caveman? Whatever. I also like liquor, sex and junk food. Sue me.

Back to Bettman, he started softening it before the other sports. The NBA guy came in and wanted to turn hockey into basketball. When you look at it for when he came in to his position, the instigator started that season and is attributed to him even though it was already in place. Then there is a lockout shortly after he takes the position, killing all the momentum the NHL had going after the Rangers in '94. Then we get the Fox contract and laser beams and **** that had all of the old school people dying.

I feel like he earned his hatred early on and it hasn't gone away for those that were die hard fans back then. New fans don't know jack **** about him and don't care but the older markets--and Canada--still dislike him. Doesn't help in Canada that he was at the helm for Quebec and Winnipeg leaving and then how he's basically propped up a god damn corpse in Arizona for years and years.

If you're mad at Bettman, you're mad at the owners. He's just their mouthpiece.
 
I love how Burns and hobo Joe are the last ones on the list with 1000+ games played with no Cup now that Boumeister has a Cup.

It speaks volume about that sad club the Sharts. This series was all about the mental game and the Blues had nerves of steel.

Had to look it up out of curiosity:

Thornton (1566 GP)
Hamhuis (1088)
Suter (1073)
Phaneuf (1048)
Luongo (1044)
Burns (1043)
Vanek (1029)
Kesler (1001)
 
I still can't get over Backes. I mean it would be one thing to change teams and watch your old team win from the couch, but to knock your new team out in game 7 of the final while you're a healthy scratch? Ouch.
 
Yup! Taking Friday the 21st off from work, pumped for the draft.

Lucky. I was supposed to fly back home this Friday, but my stay for the project was extended till next Friday, the 21st. I work till 6:30 PM Central time, run to the airport, then get on a plane back home. I probably won't get home till after midnight.

Hopefully I can listen to it on the radio on the plane.
 
Congrats to Jordan Nolan. Didn't even know he was on that team until I saw him on the ice at the end...

Chris Thorburn too. I was like who the f*** is this caveman? :laugh:


The cry for speed and skill is because the Kings went too far in the other direction, a much better balance is needed

Last two Cup champs have it all. Size. Speed. Skill. But you also need the heart to use all three, which is why Tampa is still crying about how unfair the playoffs are.


I love how Burns and hobo Joe are the last ones on the list with 1000+ games played with no Cup now that Boumeister has a Cup.

It speaks volume about that sad club the Sharts. This series was all about the mental game and the Blues had nerves of steel.

That face when Jay f***ing Bouwmeester has more heart than Joe Thornton :laugh:

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But they won in '14 with him. He also did these key things:

- Used his face to break Couture's hand in Game 6.
- Made the play for Gaborik's GTG in Game 1 against Anaheim.

If they have a better player there, maybe it doesn't matter but we will never know. Lose Game 1 of that Anaheim series though and they probably don't win the Cup.

That being said, he should have been told "thank you" after the parade and been bought out: no question about it.

Richards performed well in the 2014 run when they kept him on the fourth line playing fourth line minutes against fourth line opposition. The moment Sutter tried pairing him with Carter again and matching up against top players, he looked dreadful.

And yep, I was actually drinking the Koolaid back in 2014 and thought we should keep him. 100% wrong. That should have been an automatic CBO.
 
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Oh, there’s a lot more the Kings can’t do, like pass, defend, kill penalties, be a threat on the power play...



I just find it funny that yet again, a number of Flyers move on to find success elsewhere, with Brayden Schenn also winning the Cup in addition to Berube, similar to what we witnessed with Richards and Carter.

Didn't the also have Sergei Bobrovsky?
 
I understand that is where most people are at today, even though I'm not and never will be as that feeling of "anything could happen" and the rivalries it sparked really set hockey apart from everything else. I feel that I've been more into the NFL the last few years even as they get softer since there is still a lever of contact in that sport that can't just be legislated away like they are doing in hockey.

Am I a caveman? Whatever. I also like liquor, sex and junk food. Sue me.

Back to Bettman, he started softening it before the other sports. The NBA guy came in and wanted to turn hockey into basketball. When you look at it for when he came in to his position, the instigator started that season and is attributed to him even though it was already in place. Then there is a lockout shortly after he takes the position, killing all the momentum the NHL had going after the Rangers in '94. Then we get the Fox contract and laser beams and **** that had all of the old school people dying.

I feel like he earned his hatred early on and it hasn't gone away for those that were die hard fans back then. New fans don't know jack **** about him and don't care but the older markets--and Canada--still dislike him. Doesn't help in Canada that he was at the helm for Quebec and Winnipeg leaving and then how he's basically propped up a god damn corpse in Arizona for years and years.

There was also the Canadian Assistance Plan in the late 90's/early 00's, which probably saved every team in Canada outside Toronto and Montreal. Even the Canadiens couldn't really compete in the post-1995 league though. Didn't help that Roy forced his way out due to non-money reasons.

My minor conspiracy theory is that it's not crazy that 3 of the 4 former WHA teams, in the smallest of small markets, all moved after the league didn't get the cap in 1995. The one team that didn't move, had not only championship history, but dynastic history. It would've looked bad for the league if a former champ had to relocate, although there was a moment where they were close to moving to Houston. Had any of the other 3 teams won a Cup, they would still be where they were. And the Jets were supposed to move to Minnesota before they ended up in Phoenix. Minnesota, the great hockey market with a team that already had to be merged with another franchise to survive, and then also had threats of the team moving a couple different times(before Bettman), and then ultimately ending up in Dallas.

The 1992 strike led to Bettman. The owners weren't going to let that happen again. You look at what was going on around the time, Lindros was refusing to play for the team that drafted him, Scott Stevens was making a huge deal about being forced to be compensation(and free agency was a thorny issue for a long time before that), as well as the strike that happened before the playoffs. After Eagleson, the NHLPA was starting to flex its muscles under Goodenow. Why would Bettman try to kill the momentum of an American team winning, maybe the American team, in 1994? He's Mr. USA, but he's going to undercut the league like that? Anyone that blames him as the singular force behind all the labor issues, doesn't care about anything other than blaming him.
 
People already calling Pietrangelo the best defenseman in the league on the main board lmfao

Not even a month removed from no one having him in their top-10s, no less, when people were saying Parayko was better, not even three months removed from calling him a liability lmao

No one knows shit about western conference d-men until they make a Final, then eyes open wide.
 
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