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Cook24 said:
Muzzin for Nylander :). Toffoli for Myers. Do it.
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They have close to 19 million in cap space with Horton being LTIR . Nylander isn’t going to be moved apparently he was used as a pitch for them to say Matthews/Nylander and Tavares/Marner and Johnsson-Kadri-Brown as their 3rd line. Very deep team . They will keep Matthews , Marner , Nylander , Tavares but adding depth and fixing their D will be a problem. But nowadays you just need puck moving dmen to win honestly look at Pens defense . They won without anyone being a star . I think Toronto will be a powerhouse for years to come and might be the team to beat in the east . With that said Boston and Tampa will put up a helluva fight .
 
Not expecting anything today but I know that the trade/Ufa hotline does not work on July 1st in Los Angeles
Every year it seems to get disconnected for about 3 days
 
That Leaf cap space is going to disappear real quick when just two guys currently counting for less than 2 million combined all of a sudden take up 20 mil in cap
 
ScoreZeGoals said:
That Leaf cap space is going to disappear real quick when just two guys currently counting for less than 2 million combined all of a sudden take up 20 mil in cap
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Someone should offer sheet Nylander.

I think they’ll try to deal Matt Martin to clear up some space and then next offseason, deal Marleau who will have one year remaining in his deal at that point.

Hainsey won’t be back after this year either.

They’ll need Dermott to step up and find something from one of the Swedish Dmen they have in the minors.
 
Kingsfan1 said:
I’d let Letestu play center on the 4th line or make Cliffy a healthy scratch . He makes way to much to be on the 4th and he sucks but I know he brings some culture identity that the team loves .
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Thats what Thompson and Amadio are for, and Thompson is good on face-offs.

I keep going back and forth on Muzz vs Martinez. Muzz is going to want more money sooner than Marty and may get us a better asset in return. Martinez has the extra year but his next contract won't be crazy, may even take a discount to stay on the 3rd pair and mentor roll.
 
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The Leafs only have 2 NHL defensemen under contract for 19/20.

If Nylander, Marner and Matthews cost ~30M. That puts the Leafs at ~80M with only 14 players under contract for 19/20. The cap will probably be around 82M or so.
 
dman3474 said:
Thats what Thompson and Amadio are for, and Thompson is good on face-offs.

I keep going back and forth on Muzz vs Martinez. Muzz is going to want more money sooner than Marty and may get us a better asset in return. Martinez has the extra year but his next contract won't be crazy, may even take a discount to stay on the 3rd pair and mentor roll.
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And the loot that Muzzin brings vs a very underrated Martinez (hell, half our fan base can’t admit he’s a legit top-4), for me, has always been a no-brainer. Muzzin would fetch us a much nicer return, and his loss would sting, but we have a lot of pieces. We can have an elite defense without Muzzin, esp with Brickley flying under the radar re:his high praise from scouts and the org. Org still high on Phaneuf. Dion at 16 mins is still rock solid. Plus maybe Slava... who knows, LaDue... Gonna be fun.

We have a lot of extra pieces on D, let’s deal the guy that gets us the most loot. My thoughts at least
 
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False, Martinez is a poor defensive player, Muzzin has always been head and shoulders above. Without Muzzin we have no defense.

If you're looking to win now, Trade Martinez. If you want to get pretty assets and waste everyone's final years, trade Muzzin.

The only thing at this point I'd trade Muzzin for is a Nylander quality player on an ELC.
 
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lexlavender said:
False, Martinez is a poor defensive player, Muzzin has always been head and shoulders above. Without Muzzin we have no defense.

If you're looking to win now, Trade Martinez. If you want to get pretty assets and waste everyone's final years, trade Muzzin.

The only thing at this point I'd trade Muzzin for is a Nylander quality player on an ELC.
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First of all, Martinez has never “been a poor defensive player” ... that’s silly, and cut it out. His strengths are, arguably, evenly distributed between his offensive and defensive prowess, depending on the game/situation/season.

Second, no one is saying he’s better than Muzzin. In fact, that’s why some of us want to trade him over an underrated (as you further prove; thanks) Martinez.
 
lexlavender said:
False, Martinez is a poor defensive player, Muzzin has always been head and shoulders above. Without Muzzin we have no defense.

If you're looking to win now, Trade Martinez. If you want to get pretty assets and waste everyone's final years, trade Muzzin.

The only thing at this point I'd trade Muzzin for is a Nylander quality player on an ELC.
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I'd try for a 3-way trade. LA-TOR-BUF

LA gets: W. Nylander & A. Nylander
Gives: Toffoli, Muzzin, 1st

TOR gets: Ristolainen
Gives: W. Nylander

BUF gets: Muzzin, Toffoli, 1st
Gives: Ristolainen, A. Nylander
 
IMO...

#1 Doughty
#2 ???
#3 Muzzin
#4 Martinez
#5 Phaneuf/Forbort
#6 Ladue
#7 Brickley

We don’t really have a #2 defenseman as I don’t feel Muzzin is really that guy. Voynov would be our #2. Trade Forbort as we already have a solid #5 in Phaneuf plus Phaneuf isn’t really tradeable.

Plus Muzzin and Martinez bring way more to the table at a 4 mil cap hit then Forbort does at 2.5
 
johnjm22 said:
Trade both of them.
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I certainly don’t mind dealing one of them but trading both would really leave a gaping hole in the top 4.

Unless your thinking about bringing in a guy like Da Haan via FA, or you are hoping Forbort and/or LaDue can really step it up this year and going forward.

You cannot elevate Phaneuf into the top 4. He’s fine as a bottom pairing guy, playing limited minutes.
 
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Cook24 said:
IMO...

#1 Doughty
#2 ???
#3 Muzzin
#4 Martinez
#5 Phaneuf/Forbort
#6 Ladue
#7 Brickley

We don’t really have a #2 defenseman as I don’t feel Muzzin is really that guy. Voynov would be our #2. Trade Forbort as we already have a solid #5 in Phaneuf plus Phaneuf isn’t really tradeable.

Plus Muzzin and Martinez bring way more to the table at a 4 mil cap hit then Forbort does at 2.5
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Yes, trade the what, 24-25 year old D, and keep the aging, slowing down, D because they are the same.....

Cmon man...seriously?
 
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kovacro said:
I certainly don’t mind dealing one of them but trading both would really leave a gaping hole in the top 4.

Unless your thinking about bringing in a guy like Da Haan via FA, or you are hoping Forbort and/or LaDue can really step it up this year and going forward.

You cannot elevate Phaneuf into the top 4. He’s fine as a bottom pairing guy, playing limited minutes.
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I think you trade one this year...let the young guys in....then trade the other next year...again, letting young guys work their way in, I don't think you can trade both at the same time...
 
GoldenBearHockey said:
I think you trade one this year...let the young guys in....then trade the other next year...again, letting young guys work their way in, I don't think you can trade both at the same time...
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Yeah, I can see that scenario play out. Sooner or later you have to let some of these guys sink or swim and see if they can handle that bright lights of the NHL night in, night out.

Got to put them in some tough situations and see how they fare.
 
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