Rumor: 2018-19 Kings News/Rumors/Tidbits

[Peter James Bond II]

Robitaille and Blake were correct about being 'contenders'....but not for the Cup; but contenders for the Jack Hughes Sweepstakes.

 

[Bandit]

Better strategy to sell tickets would be to win games.

Or at least score a goal or two every now & then to make it entertaining...

 

[Reaper45]

The time to rebuild is apparent now. Good news is that it can be a 2 to 3 year process ala Boston and Pittsburgh.

You keep Kopitar, Doughty, Brown, Kovalchuk and Quick.

Carter, Toffoli, Pearson, Lewis, Muzzin, Martinez, Forbort and Phaneuf get moved for futures with salary retained and /or expiring contracts coming back.

Let Thompson walk at the end of the season.

Play the kids.

Fire Stevens and his staff at the end of the season and hire Team Sweden’s coach.

Draft like a mofo

Sign Panarin

Convince Clifford to retire by promising a $300k / yr job as Matt Greene’s chauffeur after the ltir insurance runs out

Pretty much exactly how I feel but I'd be ok with keeping Toffoli if you dont get a good deal on him. I'd move Thompson if anyone would take him and call up MacD.

 

[Bandit]

Pretty much exactly how I feel but I'd be ok with keeping Toffoli if you dont get a good deal on him. I'd move Thompson if anyone would take him and call up MacD.

Only one taking Thompson off our hands is the waiver wire.

 

[Reaper45]

Only one taking Thompson off our hands is the waiver wire.

From your lips to gods ears.

 

[kingsfan28]

Toffoli's value is probably similar to Tatar's.

didn't he fetch a 1st,2nd,3rd? Toffoli would be lucky to get a mid 2nd...that's it.

 

[Bandit]

From your lips to gods ears.

There is no god. My proof? Nate Thompson is an LA King.

 

[kingsfan28]

Simmonds would actually be a huge score for Blake. We need scoring and players that play on the edge. Having Simmonds (and Brown back) would give a shot of life to this team, but it wont solve all of our problems, which are many.

And have a Lucic type contract for the next 6-8 years when he signs an extension.Some of you guy whine about Clifford 1.7 contract, just think of the noise we'd hear in year 3 of Simmonds new deal. PASS!

 

[Bandit]

I love Simmonds, one of only two Kings I ever bought a jersey with their name on, the other being Kopitar, but you guys are nuckin' futz if you think he's what this team needs right now.

 

[riznat]

And have a Lucic type contract for the next 6-8 years when he signs an extension.Some of you guy whine about Clifford 1.7 contract, just think of the noise we'd hear in year 3 of Simmonds new deal. PASS!

While I can see the Lucic Simmonds comparison, Clifford has 94 points in his whole career, Wayne has over 450...

 

[kingsfan28]

This really is a kick in the balls when it comes to our drafting record over the past 10 years:

"There are only three first round picks from their last 10 drafts currently suiting up for the team – Derek Forbort, Tanner Pearson and Adrian Kempe – and two of them were selected 29th and 30th overall. Apart from the first rounders, there are only three lineup regulars from any of the last eight drafts currently getting a regular shift in the NHL this season: Michael Amadio, Colin Miller and Valentin Zykov."

Waking up with the Kings: October 21 - LA Kings Insider

 

[ru4reals]

This really is a kick in the balls when it comes to our drafting record over the past 10 years:

"There are only three first round picks from their last 10 drafts currently suiting up for the team – Derek Forbort, Tanner Pearson and Adrian Kempe – and two of them were selected 29th and 30th overall. Apart from the first rounders, there are only three lineup regulars from any of the last eight drafts currently getting a regular shift in the NHL this season: Michael Amadio, Colin Miller and Valentin Zykov."

Waking up with the Kings: October 21 - LA Kings Insider

Everyone hits and misses but it seems for us it's always misses. Especially when you think about Tarasenko being drafted right after Forbort. Or if it's ten years Teubert ahead of Karlsson. I know I know the draft is a crapshoot but just thinking what could of.

 

[johnjm22]

didn't he fetch a 1st,2nd,3rd? Toffoli would be lucky to get a mid 2nd...that's it.

A 26 year old that's scored at a 20-30 goal pace for 4 straight seasons and is signed through next season with a 4.6M cap hit is going to get more than a second.

Pessimism of the current team is making people around here unable to be objective.

 

[Reaper45]

A 26 year old that's scored at a 20-30 goal pace for 4 straight seasons and is signed through next season with a 4.6M cap hit is going to get more than a second.

Pessimism of the current team is making people around here unable to be objective.

Which is why I think a reload is still possible. Other GMs will recognize the Kings are a tire fire now but that doesn't discredit guys careers. Carter, Muzzin, Martinez, Lewis etc would all fetch good deals.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Everyone hits and misses but it seems for us it's always misses. Especially when you think about Tarasenko being drafted right after Forbort. Or if it's ten years Teubert ahead of Karlsson. I know I know the draft is a crapshoot but just thinking what could of.

Also passed on Voracek in 2007. Lombardi’s draft record is bereft of talent. What stings about these misses is they’re early draft selections where they clearly ignored the best available player and bias clearly dripped by going with those good ole Canadian farm boys, like Hickey and Teubert. Or the big US kid who can barely handle the puck, Forabort.

 

[kingsfan28]

Also passed on Voracek in 2007. Lombardi’s draft record is bereft of talent. What stings about these misses is they’re early draft selections where they clearly ignored the best available player and bias clearly dripped by going with those good ole Canadian farm boys, like Hickey and Teubert. Or the big US kid who can barely handle the puck, Forabort.

Would we be happy today if Alzner was taken instead of Hickey?

 

[kingsfan28]

Everyone hits and misses but it seems for us it's always misses. Especially when you think about Tarasenko being drafted right after Forbort. Or if it's ten years Teubert ahead of Karlsson. I know I know the draft is a crapshoot but just thinking what could of.

Tarasenko was a risky pick , and most GM's knew this because of the KHL and whether he'd sign with an NHL team. Had there not been any questions about him, he'd have been top 5 pick easily.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Would we be happy today if Alzner was taken instead of Hickey?

If they took Alzner instead, there’s the possibility they wouldn’t have bothered with Teubert in 2008 or Forbort in 2010. It’s baffling to me how many times they took three defensemen with limited upside with so many early selections.

If you’re looking for the next Bryan Marchment, trying to find that type of player in the first round is really an archaic way of thinking. And we’re witnessing the consequences of decisions like that.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Tarasenko was a risky pick , and most GM's knew this because of the KHL and whether he'd sign with an NHL team. Had there not been any questions about him, he'd have been top 5 pick easily.

That’s mostly why Kuznetsov dropped in his draft year. A lot of GMs probably wish they took that risk now. It’s not too dissimilar to the fortune the Kings had with an unknown entity falling into their laps in 2005.

 

[Reaper45]

The Kings track record with Russians is absolutely piss poor. The best were Zhitnik, Frolov and Voynov and look how they all ended. Russians and L.A. typically dont mix, it was one of my biggest reservations about Kovalchuk in addition to his age. Tarasenko wouldve never lasted in L.A.

 

[DryIslandBartender]

Would we be happy today if Alzner was taken instead of Hickey?

I don’t know if you can search posts from that time but I know I was on here pounding the table for DL to take him in the draft. To me it was a no brainer.

 

[Legionnaire]

I don’t know if you can search posts from that time but I know I was on here pounding the table for DL to take him in the draft. To me it was a no brainer.

Same here. I thought he would be the perfect fit next to Jack Johnson's offensive game. Guess we know how that turned out. Hehe.

 

[The Butcher]

Have Blake, Luc, and John Stevens been fired yet?

 

[kingsfan28]

The Kings track record with Russians is absolutely piss poor. The best were Zhitnik, Frolov and Voynov and look how they all ended. Russians and L.A. typically dont mix, it was one of my biggest reservations about Kovalchuk in addition to his age. Tarasenko wouldve never lasted in L.A.

He would've never lasted Sutter.

Remember that story about Lombardi stuck at the Canadian border losing his shit over Pushkaryov's play in Manchester?

 

[KingsFan7824]

Carter, Toffoli, Pearson, Lewis, Muzzin, Martinez, Forbort and Phaneuf get moved for futures with salary retained and /or expiring contracts coming back.

Good luck with all that in a hard cap league for a bunch of underperforming players.

Which is why I think a reload is still possible. Other GMs will recognize the Kings are a tire fire now but that doesn't discredit guys careers. Carter, Muzzin, Martinez, Lewis etc would all fetch good deals.

So the Kings rebuild is contingent on other GM's looking into the past for what a player might do for them today? Hmm. If Blake makes moves in the middle of a tire fire, he's desperate, so other GM's can just wait him out for a better deal.