Epic Calder Race 2024-25

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Celebrini has pretty much already won it imo. Two of Hutson, Michkov and Wolf are the runners up. Homer will try to dimiss the rookies from other teams but it's a great crop of rookies one of the best i've seen in a while.

I've watched them all play, all are good rookies but i find Cele the most exciting to watch. Personally if I could pick them for my team (meaning if I could have them) I would rank them

Cele - Very exciting to watch
Wolf - Good goalies are the backbone of a team

Mich/Hutson

Of course everything is subjective, others will have different opinions which is ok.
 
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Honestly, it's still likely that that's the split. Shame Wolf had a rough game,

I mean, if we're being fair, so does Wolf. I love the Flames, but like, we're regularly running Daniil Miromanov,Jake Bean, Tyson Barrie, and Joel Hanley rotating into our top 4 defenseman. Pachal is a good 3rd pair guy, and Weegar/Andersson are the only other D-Men on the team that should be seeing regular ice-time (you can include Bahl to that when he's healthy as well). Most of us are pretty sure half our AHL team would be better options than what we've regularly been seeing. And our forwards, while exciting to see some of the younger guys get time and develop, are struggling hard to score (I'd be surprised if we had more than 6 players this season get 30+ points. Only 5 are a lock, and Sharangovich if he keeps up this hot streak will likely make it. That's about it. Not counting Frost or Farabee who will play like 30 games with the Flames this year and both have a chance to make it as well). Wolf is the only reason we aren't a bottom 5 team in the league (which sucks because no high pick that could have been used on a potential 1C that we don't have in our system or on our team, but I'm never gonna be mad that we have a young guy coming in and doing well).
Flames are no where near the level of bad as the Sharks its not even close. and Wolf isnt the only reason. we got 1.5 top 4 defenseman. Flames got what 25 plus more point are in the middle of league standings. Sharks are dead last and -50 worse differential then flames. Not even close.
 
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And maybe the team wouldn't be as bad as it is if their top center played a more defensively responsible game. By the time the season ends I wouldn't be surprised if his +/- was closing on -30. Thats awful... although I will say its not even close to being as bad as Connor Bedards -44 last year so maybe there's awful and then there's AWFUL.
Maybe if plus-minus meant anything useful and wasn't this sport's equivalent of RBI...
 
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I don't believe being scored on while your net is empty affects a player's +/-
Should do a little research before spewing nonsense. You have been missing the mark completely. Obvious you dont watch Celebrini- and are not aware how plus minus work. Take empty net goals away and what hes a -8? on the worst team in the league thats a -62. You say thats AWFUL? i think its quite the opposite. Its very impressive. Keep barking up the wrong tree though with your baseless stats/ incorrect stats. Google is a pretty good search engine btw, just a thought.
 
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Should do a little research before spewing nonsense. You have been missing the mark completely. Obvious you dont watch Celebrini- and are not aware how plus minus work. Take empty net goals away and what hes a -8? on the worst team in the league thats a -62. You say thats AWFUL? i think its quite the opposite. Its very impressive. Keep barking up the wrong tree though with your baseless stats/ incorrect stats. Google is a pretty good search engine btw, just a thought.
Did I definitively say that being on the ice for an empty doesn't affect your +/-? No. I said I believe which means I'm not 100% certain. I was wrong apparently. I did try and look it up on Google before posting but couldn't find a definitive answer. Am I guilty of not looking hard enough? Perhaps... But I did attempt to find the answer before posting my belief.
Frankly it seems stupid that if you are on the ice and and an empty net goal is scored against your team your +/- is negatively affected.
 
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Did I definitively say that being on the ice for an empty doesn't affect your +/-? No. I said I believe which means I'm not 100% certain. I was wrong apparently. I did try and look it up on Google before posting but couldn't find a definitive answer. Am I guilty of not looking hard enough? Perhaps... But I did attempt to find the answer before posting my belief.
Frankly it seems stupid that if you are on the ice and and an empty net goal is scored against your team your +/- is negatively affected.
The reason it is counted is because it is still 6 on 6.
 
Did I definitively say that being on the ice for an empty doesn't affect your +/-? No. I said I believe which means I'm not 100% certain. I was wrong apparently. I did try and look it up on Google before posting but couldn't find a definitive answer. Am I guilty of not looking hard enough? Perhaps... But I did attempt to find the answer before posting my belief.
Frankly it seems stupid that if you are on the ice and and an empty net goal is scored against your team your +/- is negatively affected.
I'm shocked that you were wrong about something. The chutzpah to troll after Wolf shit the bed last night is something though.
 
I'm shocked that you were wrong about something. The chutzpah to troll after Wolf shit the bed last night is something though.
It's amazingly easy to get behind Wolf. Out of all the Calder candidates he's having the biggest impact on his team. If the Calder was the rookie MVP award, he'd win in a cake walk.... he's just that important to the team's success. If Wolf was a Shark, your team actually might be competitive most nights.
 
It's amazingly easy to get behind Wolf. Out of all the Calder candidates he's having the biggest impact on his team. If the Calder was the rookie MVP award, he'd win in a cake walk.... he's just that important to the team's success. If Wolf was a Shark, your team actually might be competitive most nights.
There is zero chance the Sharks would be anything but a bottom dweller even if Prime Hasek was in nets.
 
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It's amazingly easy to get behind Wolf. Out of all the Calder candidates he's having the biggest impact on his team. If the Calder was the rookie MVP award, he'd win in a cake walk.... he's just that important to the team's success. If Wolf was a Shark, your team actually might be competitive most nights.
Sharks would not even be watchable without Celebrini. The same cannot be said without Wolf. Win in a cake walk? i wont even comment on that. I like our bantar. its like hitting a homerun without picking up a bat. its glorious. keep them coming. You should probably take a break like your boy Wolf who got shelled last night.
 
Did I definitively say that being on the ice for an empty doesn't affect your +/-? No. I said I believe which means I'm not 100% certain. I was wrong apparently. I did try and look it up on Google before posting but couldn't find a definitive answer. Am I guilty of not looking hard enough? Perhaps... But I did attempt to find the answer before posting my belief.
Frankly it seems stupid that if you are on the ice and and an empty net goal is scored against your team your +/- is negatively affected.
And that's one reason why paying even the slightest bit of attention to plus-minus is a mistake.
 

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