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Sol said:
It's very possible, there are always teams that want age, and experience come playoffs or around it. Carter is still valuable. Granted he's not as valuable as he once was, but he can still get a good haul. There's always Dorion and Duchene.
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Name one?
 
lumbergh said:
Name one?
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Teams value players who have won before, especially teams who may be loaded with young players who haven't been over the hump. Carter could be useful to teams like Winnipeg, Toronto, Tampa. Washington signed Mike Richards in 2016, he hadn't been a quality NHL player since 2013. Carter is nowhere close to that level of player, the Kings could still get something useful. Should have moved him in 2016 and could have gotten way more, but it is what it is.
 
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Raccoon Jesus said:
He missed 76 games while in America, is back in America, and in the time period since he's been back, another case went open and shut, decided by the nhl, and appealed. Where's his decision? That's my point.
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Slava is not going to get any favors handed to him. He fled before facing the music and if he comes back he still has to face it. If I was sentenced to jail for 3 months but fled to Canada for 3 years when I come back I’m still going to jail. They don’t just say “well he’s been gone longer then his original sentence let’s csll it even.”
 
mbar said:
Slava is not going to get any favors handed to him. He fled before facing the music and if he comes back he still has to face it. If I was sentenced to jail for 3 months but fled to Canada for 3 years when I come back I’m still going to jail. They don’t just say “well he’s been gone longer then his original sentence let’s csll it even.”
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He served two months and was released. Time served.
 
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mbar said:
Slava is not going to get any favors handed to him. He fled before facing the music and if he comes back he still has to face it. If I was sentenced to jail for 3 months but fled to Canada for 3 years when I come back I’m still going to jail. They don’t just say “well he’s been gone longer then his original sentence let’s csll it even.”
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Social Justice isnt law.That is all.
 
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mbar said:
Slava is not going to get any favors handed to him. He fled before facing the music and if he comes back he still has to face it. If I was sentenced to jail for 3 months but fled to Canada for 3 years when I come back I’m still going to jail. They don’t just say “well he’s been gone longer then his original sentence let’s csll it even.”
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In the time period since he's been back in America waiting, another NHL player had an incident, a trial, NHL discipline, and an appeal of said discipline. Sure it's a private business and they can do whatever they want but I'm also free to criticize it, and I think it's a horseshit decision that they haven't handled the affair in any way, and that they don't have a documented policy to deal with it, because they're just making shit up as they go along right now, and that's hugely problematic. He's already dealt with the longest suspension in NHL history.

It's pompous as shit to not have really much of any off-ice discipline policy just because you think your players' shit doesn't stink like some other leagues. They've clearly had an opportunity to get out ahead of this thing and they haven't in any way. That's why their being upset with the Watson appeal carries no weight, as well. If I'm the arbitrator, I'm asking what the precedent is and what the policy is...welp, it's all right here, lots and lots of indecision.
 
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mbar said:
He ran away before facing league discipline. Like it or not if you want to play in this league you have to play by their rules.
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Hey, point to me the rule governing this, sure. That's the crux of my compliant.

Obviously they can't write rules covering literally every off-ice situation or degrees of them. But if there's a minimum suspension at least if not a maximum, or sections for misdemeanor or felonious behavior, at least there's less stink about what they're doing, because right now they have the leeway to be the social judge in any way they want and it leads to massive inconsistencies (hell, on-ice too--see the upcoming Wilson appeal).
 
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Sol said:
Dude come on, Ryan isn't Carters value.
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And in a world without the cap, it's different. With the hard cap world, value is skewed. Well, there's no objective standard for value, so under the cap value is skewed in different ways than it would normally be skewed. A lot of moves come down to timing. It's not always based on talent. In Ottawa's case, look at the trades they've been making lately. It's all about less cash going to the players on the team. Blake couldn't take just Ryan back for Carter in the first place, unless they retained some of Ryan's hit, but he's also not going to get Chabot, or Tkachuk, or the Sens 2020 pick.

Carter is making $7m total after this season. Include the $5m this year, it's up to $12m. If you're trading him to Ottawa, you have to find the guy that is getting more cash than Carter, because Carter does nothing for Ottawa as a player, other than have a higher cap hit than salary.

I'm working from the assumption that the Kings won't be winning any trades for the time being. They're too old and expensive in a hard cap world. Blake probably couldn't have gotten Hoffman straight up for Carter, since at the time he was traded, Carter was still guaranteed more overall cash than Hoffman. They went from $11m to $6m by taking Boedker, which seems to be what Melnyk wants.
 
Auston Watson is going to play again and remember that Bob Probert was arrested for smuggling a large amount of cocaine in his jock and he returned to play in the league to mention just two.

Then there is the case of the player who's wreckless behavior led to the death of his best friend and teammate as well. There have been players who were accused and found guilty of terrible off ice incidents who were allowed to play in the league again and with significantly less severe punishment to boot.

Voynov as done everything asked of him and served his time, all that is left is for the league to sentence him to their arbitrary form of punishment (including the two months he served preciously) and then let him return to the league.

What he is accused of doing is a dispicable and heinous act but he has paid a very heavy price for his actions and we are country who believes in 2nd chances or at least he have been one.
 
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Hasn’t Mackenzie said on record that he thinks LA is not interested in returning Voynov to the team? At most they would trade his rights for significantly less than his actual worth.
 
mbar said:
He ran away before facing league discipline. Like it or not if you want to play in this league you have to play by their rules.
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I'm not sure where you are getting your information, he didn't run away from the league, he voluntarily self-deported from the U.S. because immigration officials were looking into deporting him since he was convicted of a crime of violence. He was trying to preserve his chances of coming back to the U.S. someday. Had nothing to do with the NHL.
 
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Hasn’t Mackenzie said on record that he thinks LA is not interested in returning Voynov to the team? At most they would trade his rights for significantly less than his actual worth.
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Then the Kings would be stupid to not use him as a player. If they (still) own his rights and he gets reinstated by the NHL, put him on the blueline already!!
 
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deaderhead28 said:
Jay Beagle Washington Capitals age 32.
Joe Thornton San Jose Sharks age 39.
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The Sharks gave Jumbo Joe 8 million bucks. It was speculated on here that the Kings were offering around 3 so the Sharks are certainly a team that wants veterans. Carter has value but the Kings still probably have no idea if they are a playoff team or not much like the majority of the fan base.
 
. “We’ve been changing things up a lot, and we’re trying to figure out the right fit and what works. I did think that we did some better things on the power play as it went later into [Saturday’s loss at Ottawa],” Drew Doughty said. “The first couple power plays weren’t very good, and a lot of that’s on me. I’m a guy that gets put out there for a reason, and I need to make a difference when I’m out on the power play. It’s obviously a five-man unit, but I can help lead the way in that category. I’ve failed in that so far, and I’m looking forward to hopefully doing a better job of that next game. I don’t want to say we’re ‘playing scared’ out there, because we’re not playing scared, but we’re overthinking it. Just keep things simple, get pucks to the net,” he said. “I’m even going out there – and I’ve never thought this way in my life – and I’m thinking, ‘if we don’t score here, we failed.’ You’re only supposed to succeed on the power play 20, 25% of the time. If you look at it that way, you don’t expect to score a goal every single time, but you expect to get momentum every single time.”
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Doughty hard on himself for PP skid; Kovalchuk maintenance; Quick update - LA Kings Insider

I think that says a lot about what's going on in the locker-room. This team hasn't had confidence since game 1.
 
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Will Dustin Brown play in Toronto? Is he on the road trip or was he and Vilardi skating in LA ?
 
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