Rumor: 2018-19 Kings News/Rumors/Tidbits

[Ziggy Stardust]

Helene brings up Voynov in this article. Wonder if his reinstatement will be determined by an arbitrator.

 

[KINGS17]

Montreal looking to trade a forward. Pearson and Forbort for Gallagher?

Think this guy can still play?

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Helene brings up Voynov in this article. Wonder if his reinstatement will be determined by an arbitrator.

His suspension would have to be definite first.

Really pissed that the NHL doesn't have a set DV policy right about now. Austin Watson sitting 18 games vs. Voynov for the better part of 4 seasons is horse shit any way you slice it as the NHL is just making it up as they go along.

 

[mrkolice]

what are the chances of slava coming back home? like 10%?

 

[deeshamrock]

Montreal looking to trade a forward. Pearson and Forbort for Gallagher?

Gallagher isn't the forward they're trading. They will soon have 16 forwards with a couple returning IR's, most likely one of the spare parts , and Scherbak is a guy who right now, doesn't have a spot in the lineup and young enough with a bit of upside to attract a deal.

 

[deeshamrock]

Wonder what Carter would fetch alone or in a package. Would be nice to get a young 2C

Not likely, given his age and coming off a tough injury. Giving up a 'young' 2C, a GM would want equitable player coming back.
They should have traded him a couple years ago. Right now, given his salary he's better to keep. Of course there is always that desperate GM that has an injury list and is in the playoff hunt come Feb...
Stranger things have happened.

 

[Sol]

Not likely, given his age and coming off a tough injury. Giving up a 'young' 2C, a GM would want equitable player coming back.
They should have traded him a couple years ago. Right now, given his salary he's better to keep. Of course there is always that desperate GM that has an injury list and is in the playoff hunt come Feb...
Stranger things have happened.

It's very possible, there are always teams that want age, and experience come playoffs or around it. Carter is still valuable. Granted he's not as valuable as he once was, but he can still get a good haul. There's always Dorion and Duchene.

 

[KINGS17]

Not likely, given his age and coming off a tough injury. Giving up a 'young' 2C, a GM would want equitable player coming back.
They should have traded him a couple years ago. Right now, given his salary he's better to keep. Of course there is always that desperate GM that has an injury list and is in the playoff hunt come Feb...
Stranger things have happened.

Carter should be moved at the trade deadline. He won't garner the return the Kings could have received two years ago, but hopefully circumstances create a bidding war.

 

[johnjm22]

I would like to see Muzzin moved if there's a decent return out there for him. I believe he's pretty well regarded around the league.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

I would like to see Muzzin moved if there's a decent return out there for him. I believe he's pretty well regarded around the league.

For Nylander makes sense.

 

[KingsFan7824]

Gallagher isn't the forward they're trading. They will soon have 16 forwards with a couple returning IR's, most likely one of the spare parts , and Scherbak is a guy who right now, doesn't have a spot in the lineup and young enough with a bit of upside to attract a deal.

Yeah, no trade with Montreal really makes sense. Apparently the Kings don't want to carry 14 forwards, at least this early in the season, and since apparently Montreal wants to shed a F, not add or remain the same, there's nothing there.

I think the Kings are at the point where they're not going to win trades, so that's why we won't see many involving the more major players on this team. Blake might play around the edges. Unless the cap or expiring contracts force them into something larger. Doughty's contract, if he wanted to stay, was baked in, because he wasn't going to be the one core guy they didn't give a thank you contract to. Right or wrong, smart or dumb, that doesn't factor in with Doughty. If he wanted to stay, he was staying, regardless of what that means. From here on out though, I don't think there are any more contracts like that. Nobody is a UFA this summer, but next year, Toffoli, Lewis, Clifford, and Muzzin are. They'll start moving those guys out after this year. Maybe even at the deadline if they're out of it. Although I doubt anyone needs Clifford. I think I'd be surprised if they spend more money on Toffoli and Muzzin. Toffoli keeps underwhelming, and Muzzin will be 31 when his contract is done, and he's not Kopitar or Doughty.

There's no trade that is going to save this roster. They're spending a decent amount of money in a hard cap league, so they'll keep up the show. They'll do Kovalchuk, they'll do Gaborik for Phaneuf, but they're not getting a young 2C for Carter. They're not getting a young 1C for Kopitar, today, or 3 years ago.

 

[fsanford]

what are the chances of slava coming back home? like 10%?

That is probably too high..

 

[KingsFan7824]

It's very possible, there are always teams that want age, and experience come playoffs or around it. Carter is still valuable. Granted he's not as valuable as he once was, but he can still get a good haul. There's always Dorion and Duchene.

Ottawa might do Carter, because his salary is $3m next year, and then $2m each of the last 2 years, but his cap hit is higher, but they're not giving you anything. The only guy that makes more than Carter for them is Ryan. That doesn't seem to make sense for the Kings, so what are they giving you for Carter? Not getting anything young, like prospects or picks. Not good ones anyway. That would almost be nothing but a cap clearing trade. Even then, it's going to be tough for Ottawa to add cash. Melnyk seems to not want to do that. Might have to take Smith in return.

I think people are shooting too high with the return for Carter. I think Blake would be lucky to get the equivalent of Johnson and a late 1st for him today. It certainly won't be close to what the Flyers got for him.

For Nylander makes sense.

The Kings will need to add some youth/picks in there. We see what Muzzin is. He's not going to get better. Is he the fix the Leafs need on D? We make fun of him for his play. The Leafs might have him only through the end of next season. If Boy Wonder in Toronto is as smart as they say he is, that's not a 1 for 1 trade. The Kings will need to add a 1st, or JAD.

 

[kings11]

Carter should be moved at the trade deadline. He won't garner the return the Kings could have received two years ago, but hopefully circumstances create a bidding war.

I would say your right but as we've seen the trade deadline can be pretty irrational.. I think if Carter regains his scoring touch like he did after returning from injury last season then we could get a really nice package. My biggest issue is the FO not seeing that both TT and TP have regressed and seen their values plummet. Those two are the guys i'd move for assets, heck even together with a top draft pick for Artemi Panarin. Martinez is also a guy i'd move since his body is likely to betray him real soon and he's blocking Brinkley from being our #6 D.

But your right the best time to have traded Carter, Muzzin, Martinez, Pearson and Toffoli was 2 years ago.. Also keep in mind that Toffoli and his agent believe he's a $6+ player. So he has to go when you also factor that hasty flat tires..

 

[Legionnaire]

Montreal looking to trade a forward. Pearson and Forbort for Gallagher?

They'll be looking for picks and prospects.

 

[Bandit]

His suspension would have to be definite first.

Really pissed that the NHL doesn't have a set DV policy right about now. Austin Watson sitting 18 games vs. Voynov for the better part of 4 seasons is horse **** any way you slice it as the NHL is just making it up as they go along.

Come one now, you're better than that. Voynov has not been sitting for "the better part of 4 seasons". He ran back home to the KHL. If he had stayed in America and faced the music from the get-go you can bet he'd be playing in the NHL right now. Maybe not for the Kings, but he'd be in the NHL.

 

[Stimpythecat]

I've read a few posters stating Mrs. Voynov wants to stay in southern CA. I've also seen references to Voynov not wanting to return to the kings.

Not sure what is going on.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

The Kings will need to add some youth/picks in there. We see what Muzzin is. He's not going to get better. Is he the fix the Leafs need on D? We make fun of him for his play. The Leafs might have him only through the end of next season. If Boy Wonder in Toronto is as smart as they say he is, that's not a 1 for 1 trade. The Kings will need to add a 1st, or JAD.

I think Toronto is in a win-now mode given who they added and who knows how long they can keep that core intact given the contract situations they'll be entering in the next couple of years.

Of course I'm sure they'll still want some good young players who can help now, but given Nylander's age, if they want a 1st or Clague, I'd entertain the thought, in addition to Muzzin.

 

[Legionnaire]

Come one now, you're better than that. Voynov has not been sitting for "the better part of 4 seasons". He ran back home to the KHL. If he had stayed in America and faced the music from the get-go you can bet he'd be playing in the NHL right now. Maybe not for the Kings, but he'd be in the NHL.

Uhh. He didn't run back. There were visa issues and an open ended suspension. Big difference.

You make it sound like he's on America's most wanted list. He pled down and was facing no more jail time after his release. I can't tell you what other stipulations that were put in place because I haven't read the plea deal but I'd imagine probation, DV classes and maybe community service.

He had a choice to continue to make money playing hockey while he could and he took it.

Remember this was also on the heels of the Ray Rice punch and several other DV incidents in the NFL and the NHL wanted no part.

 

[Sol]

Ottawa might do Carter, because his salary is $3m next year, and then $2m each of the last 2 years, but his cap hit is higher, but they're not giving you anything. The only guy that makes more than Carter for them is Ryan. That doesn't seem to make sense for the Kings, so what are they giving you for Carter? Not getting anything young, like prospects or picks. Not good ones anyway. That would almost be nothing but a cap clearing trade. Even then, it's going to be tough for Ottawa to add cash. Melnyk seems to not want to do that. Might have to take Smith in return.

I think people are shooting too high with the return for Carter. I think Blake would be lucky to get the equivalent of Johnson and a late 1st for him today. It certainly won't be close to what the Flyers got for him.



The Kings will need to add some youth/picks in there. We see what Muzzin is. He's not going to get better. Is he the fix the Leafs need on D? We make fun of him for his play. The Leafs might have him only through the end of next season. If Boy Wonder in Toronto is as smart as they say he is, that's not a 1 for 1 trade. The Kings will need to add a 1st, or JAD.

Dude come on, Ryan isn't Carters value.

 

[johnjm22]

For Nylander makes sense.

Buffalo and NYI would make decent trade partners also.

 

[Sol]

Also, how the hell is there no Voynov updates ?

 

[Ollie Weeks]

I think Toronto is in a win-now mode given who they added and who knows how long they can keep that core intact given the contract situations they'll be entering in the next couple of years.

Of course I'm sure they'll still want some good young players who can help now, but given Nylander's age, if they want a 1st or Clague, I'd entertain the thought, in addition to Muzzin.

I’d easily do Muzzin and either Clague or a 1st for Nylander. Probably means its not enough.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Come one now, you're better than that. Voynov has not been sitting for "the better part of 4 seasons". He ran back home to the KHL. If he had stayed in America and faced the music from the get-go you can bet he'd be playing in the NHL right now. Maybe not for the Kings, but he'd be in the NHL.

He missed 76 games while in America, is back in America, and in the time period since he's been back, another case went open and shut, decided by the nhl, and appealed. Where's his decision? That's my point.

 

[deaderhead28]

The common sense in America has went and gone in hibernation.That is all.