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On a double play at second a fielder makes the out at second and then in the act of transferring to his hand to throw it he drops it, runner is still out at second - I've seen it called this way dozens of times. Is that not the same thing? Was there a recent rule change?
Loosie
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That's different, because to record a force at a base all you need is the ball in your glove and your foot on the base.
The rule is for fly balls.
When is a catch not a catch?
The rule book definition of a catch also lists situations that may look like a catch (to some), but in fact are not a catch:
If you "catch" the ball with a cap, any of your equipment (except the glove, of course), in the uniform pocket (go figure!), or any other part of the uniform, this is not a catch. In fact, it's an infraction that get's the batter a three-base award [ 5.06(b)(4)(B) ].
It is not a catch if immediately after securing the ball you collide with a player or a fence, or if you fall to the ground, and the ball is dislodged.
It is not a catch if a fielder touches a fly ball, then deflects it against a member of the offensive team or an umpire, and then is secured by himself or another defensive player. That said, if you touch a fly ball and deflect it directly to another fielder who then secures the ball, that is a catch.
It is not a catch if, on a third strike, a pitched ball strikes the umpire and is then caught by the catcher on the rebound.
It is not a catch if on a third strike a pitched ball lodges in the catcher's clothing or gear.
The rule book definition of a catch also lists situations that may look like a catch (to some), but in fact are not a catch:
If you "catch" the ball with a cap, any of your equipment (except the glove, of course), in the uniform pocket (go figure!), or any other part of the uniform, this is not a catch. In fact, it's an infraction that get's the batter a three-base award [ 5.06(b)(4)(B) ].
It is not a catch if immediately after securing the ball you collide with a player or a fence, or if you fall to the ground, and the ball is dislodged.
It is not a catch if a fielder touches a fly ball, then deflects it against a member of the offensive team or an umpire, and then is secured by himself or another defensive player. That said, if you touch a fly ball and deflect it directly to another fielder who then secures the ball, that is a catch.
It is not a catch if, on a third strike, a pitched ball strikes the umpire and is then caught by the catcher on the rebound.
It is not a catch if on a third strike a pitched ball lodges in the catcher's clothing or gear.
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Even if it were the same, it didn't come out during a transfer, I would like to think that play happening at 2nd on a ground out, throw and force out the out would count though
Loosie
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According to the rules, it wasn't a catch. They have to call the game according to the rules.
Maybe the rule should be changed, but until it is, plays like that will be called the same way.
Maybe the rule should be changed, but until it is, plays like that will be called the same way.
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I don't believe any of us are arguing that the umpires made a mistake. I think we're arguing that in the game of baseball that should count as a catch.
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Loosie
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Can we not waste an actual good outing from Estrada please? Osuna please shut it down in the 9th.
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Imagine if we played the White Sox twice to start the year last year. Biagini would have gotten lit up, we would have gotten fed up and gave him back to San Fransisco before we realized it's just the White Sox and he's actually really good
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Maybe we missed out huge on Glenn Sparkman. He is to the Red Sox as Biagini is to the White Sox. 1 IP, 9 hits, 1 walk, 1 K, only team he faced in the big leagues 
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Maybe we missed out huge on Glenn Sparkman. He is to the Red Sox as Biagini is to the White Sox. 1 IP, 9 hits, 1 walk, 1 K, only team he faced in the big leagues
Career .900 BABIP against!
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