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Loffer said:
Sooni, you might be onto something there... - but the prospect of seeing mr. don cherry of Finland with his parrot jackets behind the bench of the Lions in the Olympics South Korean would be one delicious and entertaining scenario indeed. :popcorn::laugh:

The guy has the ego for the job, that's for sure; the competence part I dunno, but the ego and leadership are there and those qualities are a must requirement before the tactical level skills can even be factored in the equation. :D

Also: JMA would not be selected to the team which must be seen as a defintive plus. Hah.
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I want to see this happen. Tamminen with parrot jackets for the head coach of TF! Let's make it happen and focus our thoughts on that. It will not get worse and let's cheer for Berryhill anyways for the time being. In this reality nothing lasts forever. :handclap:
 
Finnpin said:
That is funny but also horrible :laugh: :help:
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Finland entered the attacking zone with the puck and with three forwards attacking against two defensemen. Yeah, what a travesty! They should have just dumped the puck before they changed instead. At least Ray Ferraro, the "expert", would have been happy.
 
Lepardi said:
They entered the attacking zone with the puck and with three forwards attacking against two defensemen. Yeah, what a travesty!
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True but it doesn't change the fact it looked kinda silly, goofy and comical and warranted Ray Ferraro's baffled comment on the hilarious Flying V with the critique of overthinking the game.
 
Loffer said:
True but it doesn't change the fact it looked kinda silly, goofy and comical and warranted Ray Ferraro's baffled comment on the hilarious Flying V with the critique of overthinking the game.
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Yeah, Finland's goal should definitely be to play in a way that those TV "experts" don't find funny. So they should just dump the puck and hand it to the opposition instead of creating a quality possession with a play that looks "goofy".
 
Loffer said:
True but it doesn't change the fact it looked kinda silly, goofy and comical and warranted Ray Ferraro's baffled comment on the hilarious Flying V with the critique of overthinking the game.
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Exactly. Yep they made it to the Swiss zone but it looks silly af and I hate those slow starts.

Lepardi said:
So they should just dump the puck and hand it to the opposition instead of creating a quality possession with a play that looks "goofy".
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Who said anything about dumping the puck and hand it to the opposition. Thinking the game faster doesnt mean that...and not just talking about that situation. Finland has been slow thinkers there, trying to play Marjamäki's losing chess.
 
Finnpin said:
Exactly. Yep they made it to the Swiss zone but it looks silly af and I hate those slow starts.


Who said anything about dumping the puck and hand it to the opposition. Thinking the game faster doesnt mean that...and not just talking about that situation. Finland has been slow thinkers there, trying to play Marjamäki's losing chess.
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Actually most of those slow starts are actually going like that because we are changing players. It might be interesting if our only guy with the puck is going alone against 5 when we are changing players.
 
Depch said:
I want to see this happen. Tamminen with parrot jackets for the head coach of TF! Let's make it happen and focus our thoughts on that. It will not get worse and let's cheer for Berryhill anyways for the time being. In this reality nothing lasts forever. :handclap:
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Well actually when Tami was here in Vaasa he coached in the games only. He kinda just gave all training stuff to other coaches like Mikko Manner who is btw. Marjamäkis assistant Coach... and ofc. all our players already thinks that he is a clown.

I have to say it might be delicious to watch him ****ing up everything and laughing for him, but yeah... no thanks.
 
FiLe said:
So. We made the quarters after all.
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Shocking, I know.

Team Finland may even actually end up as runner up in Group B. 'All' it requires is a hefty dose of fairy dust and ample supply of luck from a rabbit's foot, lucky horseshoes and the lot. If Finland beats Canada and the Swiss beat the Czechs in overtime and the Czechs score less than 3 goals... I think that should do it. Though i have my doubts...
 
Vaeltaja said:
Shocking, I know.

Team Finland may even actually end up as runner up in Group B. 'All' it requires is a hefty dose of fairy dust and ample supply of luck from a rabbit's foot, lucky horseshoes and the lot. If Finland beats Canada and the Swiss beat the Czechs in overtime and the Czechs score less than 3 goals... I think that should do it. Though i have my doubts...
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An intriguing possibility, mr. Wanderer, intriguing indeed...But it might fall short as regards the - lot. Lots are usually really tricky entities the nature of which is still open after thousands of years of serious thinking... Let's hope the best though. It is all we can do now. :popcorn:
 
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Given that we have practically nothing to lose in the next game, it'd be the perfect opportunity to experiment a little. I'd like to see Marjamäki try and see if he could build another scoring unit of whatever offensively talented pieces we have behind the top line.

Aho - Filppula - Rantanen
Savinainen - M.Aaltonen - Puljujärvi (Xavi can take the faceoffs)
Pyörälä - Kemppainen - Pihlström
Hännikäinen - Sallinen - Osala

And if nothing comes of it, they could always go back to the previous setup for the game of death.

But it's obviously not gonna happen. We now have lines that can at least play the kind of hockey that doesn't look like tarred porridge, so most likely the Canada game will be spent fine-tuning the current lineup.
 
FiLe said:
Given that we have practically nothing to lose in the next game, it'd be the perfect opportunity to experiment a little. I'd like to see Marjamäki try and see if he could build another scoring unit of whatever offensively talented pieces we have behind the top line.

Aho - Filppula - Rantanen
Savinainen - M.Aaltonen - Puljujärvi (Xavi can take the faceoffs)
Pyörälä - Kemppainen - Pihlström
Hännikäinen - Sallinen - Osala

And if nothing comes of it, they could always go back to the previous setup for the game of death.

But it's obviously not gonna happen. We now have lines that can at least play the kind of hockey that doesn't look like tarred porridge, so most likely the Canada game will be spent fine-tuning the current lineup.
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So no more games for Pulju?
 
sooni said:
Well actually when Tami was here in Vaasa he coached in the games only. He kinda just gave all training stuff to other coaches like Mikko Manner who is btw. Marjamäkis assistant Coach... and ofc. all our players already thinks that he is a clown.

I have to say it might be delicious to watch him ****ing up everything and laughing for him, but yeah... no thanks.
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Yes I agree. In this reality I can't see the Tami thing happen. I'm just toying around and relaxing the mood. Try to create some positive relaxed mood towards team Finland, at least in our thoughts. If we can't support this team but instead just bash them, then find ways to be positive. I'm actually getting that tired of the negativity. But obv personally I can just choose not to follow this stuff. And yes I think they've played horribly, but let's find ways to support them regardless, even if it's taking a toll on your energy watching them crap over. :)

Hope they get their stuff together, there would be an epic story there. And it's just one Skoda cup so far and well, one gimmick world cup. This current play will not define finnish hockey forever.
 
Sure, not an impressive team - but we have also before stumbled badly in the round robin but still made a deep run in the games that matter. I bet that in the qf we will have a very coherent, well skating and well defending Finland (that might not be able to score though...) A tough opponent to any team.
 
How does the group-system work? Norway lost to Finland so Finland is safe even if the countries gets the same amounts of points in the group?
 
LiveeviL said:
How does the group-system work? Norway lost to Finland so Finland is safe even if the countries gets the same amounts of points in the group?
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From http://www.iihfworlds2017.com/en/info/
Tie breaking formula

The tie-breaking system for two teams with the same number of points in a standing will be the game between the two teams, the winner of the game taking precedence.
Due to the fact that the three-point system does not allow a game to end in a tie, then the following tie breaking procedure is applicable when three or more teams are tied in points in a Championship standing.

Should three or more teams be tied on points, then a tie breaking formula will be applied as follows, creating a sub-group amongst the tied teams. This process will continue until only two or none of the teams remain tied. In the case of two tied teams remaining, the game between the two would then be the determining tie-breaker as the game could not end as a tie. In the case of none of the teams being tied, the criteria specified in the respective step applies.

Step 1: Taking into consideration the games between each of the tied teams, a sub-group is created applying the points awarded in the direct games amongst the tied teams from which the teams are then ranked accordingly.
Step 2: Should three or more teams still remain tied in points then the better goal difference in the direct games amongst the tied teams will be decisive.
Step 3: Should three or more teams still remain tied in points and goal difference then the highest number of goals scored by these teams in their direct games will be decisive
Step 4: Should three or more teams still remain tied in points, goal difference and goals scored then the results between each of the three teams and the closest best-ranked team outside the sub-group will be applied. In this case the tied team with the best result (1. points, 2. goal difference, 3. more goals scored) against the closest best ranked-team will take precedence
Step 5: Should the teams still remain tied, then the results between each of the three teams and the next highest best-ranked team outside the sub-group will be applied.
Step 6: Should the teams still remain tied after these five steps have been exercised then Sport considerations will be applied and the teams will be ranked by their positions coming into the Championship (seeding).
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So Finland is safe even if the teams would end up with same number of points because Norway lost the game against Finland.
 
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I don't know if I am the only one, but last few games have been much better from Finland. We have controlled the puck and if we could sometimes use our scoring chances we would have won Norway and Switzerland without overtime.

Match against Canada today is going to show much to us. If we can challenge Canada and have a solid defence I think that we have a chance against any team (maybe not Sweden) in quarterfinals.
 
Finland loves putting themselves in an underdog position. Qf "upset" + medal incoming. Especially if they face Russia in the quarters. Sochi all over again.

Edit: Honestly the best thing Finland could do is probably to loose against Canada with 0-10 to make the Russians underestimate them even more!
 
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