2017 Offseason Thread: Changes Incoming 2.0

[Reclamation Project]

Getting an extra draft pick out of Bishop would be a good move.

A third would be awesome!

 

[Bandit]

Losing out on an NCAA UFA to an eastern team? Mind blown!

What is interesting is the tweet makes it sound like Fantenberg was contingent on missing out on Pionk. You'd think Fantenberg would have other offers if he is any good.

Yeah but Blake is going to make a "big splash" in the UFA market... Even Kids just trying to break into the league don't want to come to LA if they have a choice...

 

[LAKings88]

Guessing it had to do more with LA being better stocked on the d side for prospects.

 

[BigKing]

Guessing it had to do more with LA being better stocked on the d side for prospects.

The Rangers seem to get the most hyped NCAA UDFAs every year.

Make no mistake: geography plays a huge role in these decisions.

 

[LAKings88]

The Rangers seem to get the most hyped NCAA UDFAs every year.

Make no mistake: geography plays a huge role in these decisions.

Granted, but I think it is a number of factors. would have been nice but I'm not shocked either.

 

[BigKing]

Granted, but I think it is a number of factors. would have been nice but I'm not shocked either.

It's only shocking at this point when they do sign an UDFA as opposed to getting passed over.

No surprise though that Blake seems more interested in this and the KHL route. Kings need to get some immediate help on ELCs and/or low cap hits.

 

[LAKings88]

It's only shocking at this point when they do sign an UDFA as opposed to getting passed over.

No surprise though that Blake seems more interested in this and the KHL route. Kings need to get some immediate help on ELCs and/or low cap hits.

I'm ok with it. Free adds are free.

 

[Reaper45]

Honestly, I think they felt it was handled after the McNabb fight as far as Tkachuk goes. Then they hit Kopitar, Iginla immediately responds and they go on to play some of their better hockey of the season--or at least the end of the season--for the rest of the game.

The main issue is not doing anything immediately after the elbow in the first place and then not even sneezing in Tkachuk's direction the rest of the game. So Tkachuk answers the bell by fighting McNabb and these guys decide it is settled as far as fighting him goes. Then he takes the huge run at Doughty and nothing of consequence happens as the Kings still have playoff hopes at that point, although Andreoff half-assed his way to a game misconduct.

So, for me, it is not settled as Tkachuk wants to keep picking the scab. Sets up for a home game where the Kings are already eliminated. Sutter scratches Clifford so Clifford doesn't even get a chance to do anything.

Andreoff played in that game though, I guess. I see a number under "GP" on his stat page but it is hard to recall him actually doing anything this season. I'm not sure anyone showed up on LA that night. Perfect time to just go full hog on Tkachuk and a division rival and the whole team mailed it in because they don't care enough about each other.

It's hard for me to get upset at Clifford for not fighting Tkachuk because, well, Tkachuk won't fight him anyways and the Kings were trying to win the game. I have no patience for what happened immediately following the elbow because--while they were still trying to win--every player on the ice should just lose their mind right there and riot. Very disappointed in giant Forbort not jumping Tkachuk at that moment.

I also didn't like Andreoff clowning his way to putting the Kings shorthanded on two occasions while getting thrown out while never even throwing a punch. The run on Doughty should of caused a riot in the moment. They did the old park and ride though: hope that **** is over with as far as retribution and physical play goes.

Would Clifford have done anything in Game 80 at home against Calgary? Probably not, but I can't hold it against him since he didn't play. Andreoff did play in that game though and had a chance to do something and did squat, just like his zero goals scored this season.

This team has problems but Clifford still stood up for this team on multiple occasions, just like he has for years. I'll give AA a little benefit of the doubt of being neutered by Sutter hockey (very few brawls and revenge things during Sutter's tenure...park and ride), but that has to be applied to Clifford then as well since he had the same coach.

If you are done with Clifford for any reason other than contract, then you have to be done with Andreoff and Nolan as well since he does the job better than both of these guys. If so, that's fair. I just don't believe the Clifford "replacement" is currently on the roster.

Oh for sure, I hated the lack of response by Nolan and the lame ass attempt by Andreoff. I'd honestly clean house and bring in a Haley or McLeod type. Where's a Jeff Odgers when you need one?

 

[BigKing]

I'm ok with it. Free adds are free.

Oh, sorry for any confusion but I'm way on board as well. It's been frustrating to not see anything in the way of NCAA/Europe/KHL etc. the last few years.

Doesn't mean they didn't try, but I also think you don't necessarily scour the KHL for Lombardi/Sutter type guys.

RP-

Odgers may be the only player in the NHL to get KO'd/TKO'd by three separate Kings tough guys in the 90s. Love his moxie though.

 

[Reaper45]

Oh, sorry for any confusion but I'm way on board as well. It's been frustrating to not see anything in the way of NCAA/Europe/KHL etc. the last few years.

Doesn't mean they didn't try, but I also think you don't necessarily scour the KHL for Lombardi/Sutter type guys.

RP-

Odgers may be the only player in the NHL to get KO'd/TKO'd by three separate Kings tough guys in the 90s. Love his moxie though.

Yeah, he was always game. And the stache...

 

[BigKing]

Yeah, he was always game. And the stache...

I wasn't a fan of the breathe right strip though. Like, if you are already a punching bag, don't wear something on your face that can get knocked off and flap around during the fight on top of everything else.

McSorley's KO of him is way up there--IMO--as one of the greatest Kings fights ever. San Jose was really pushing it physically and Odgers really wanted Marty. Well, he got him.

 

[Reaper45]

I wasn't a fan of the breathe right strip though. Like, if you are already a punching bag, don't wear something on your face that can get knocked off and flap around during the fight on top of everything else.

McSorley's KO of him is way up there--IMO--as one of the greatest Kings fights ever. San Jose was really pushing it physically and Odgers really wanted Marty. Well, he got him.

Always a beaut.

You ever going to throw those fight dvds together?

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

That reminded me of some other memorable knockouts... like when Kip Brennan and Brad Norton both dummied Kevin Sawyer in the same game.





Of course, how could we forget the legend, Ryan Flinn?


And probably one of my favorite KO punches due to karma. Reid Simpson was asking for it, and The Grim Reaper delivered.

 

[Fingolfin]

That reminded me of some other memorable knockouts... like when Kip Brennan and Brad Norton both dummied Kevin Sawyer in the same game.

If I'm not mistaken, that game ended Sawyer's career.

 

[Vamos Rafa]

You know things are not going right when the Kings are Snapping videos from Reign games instead of Kings games in May.

 

[KingTrouty]

Great fight vids, guys! This is turning into a Fried-Chicken.com (they still around?) sub

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

If I'm not mistaken, that game ended Sawyer's career.

You are correct, that was the last game of Sawyer's career.

 

[kings11]

Would love to see McD get the call from Ontario just to slobberknock punks

 

[Fishhead]

You are correct, that was the last game of Sawyer's career.

It was smart of him to not continue after that, but I think Sawyer was a guy with his priorities in the right place. I think he was coaching for his junior team a few years later and stepped down to spend more time with his family. I know he's a single dad with 2 kids.

 

[Reaper45]

Great fight vids, guys! This is turning into a Fried-Chicken.com (they still around?) sub

Still around. Some of us still post there occasionally.



Here's another great Brennan scrap.

 

[Matt13]

The stroll down memory lane and desire for a Kings team that stood up for one another, makes me think back fondly to Kings vs Senators from 2001.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Sigh... this team could really use a leader like Deadmarsh. Short lived career here, but he is still fondly remembered to this day. Ian Laperriere was another unselfish player who sacrificed his body for his team. Kelly Buchberger as well, despite being a punching bag.

 

[Matt13]

Kelly Buchberger as well, despite being a punching bag.

The rumor mill once said that Buchy challenged a guy by saying "Hey, you want to win a fight". That's hilarious if true.

 

[BigKing]

Always a beaut.

You ever going to throw those fight dvds together?

The Kings put all my stuff on to DVDs back in 2010 but I never did make the "Best Of" compilation I was talking about doing.

I stopped making my season fight tape in maybe 2008 or '09 since everything was online at that point and there aren't many fights anymore. Think my 2006 and '07 seasons are in a DVD/DVR machine and I never transferred it over to a disc. Haven't hooked that machine up since 2011 so hopefully it works whenever I hook it back up.

What I should do is upload my stuff to Youtube but I don't ever see myself taking the time to do it. Maybe in my early 20s but not now.

 

[The Tikkanen]

The rumor mill once said that Buchy challenged a guy by saying "Hey, you want to win a fight". That's hilarious if true.

Nobody could accept punches to the face better than Buchberger.