KingsHockey24
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2017 Offseason Thread 5.0 Summer Doldrums
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KINGS17
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Cammalleri is gong to be huge for the Kings? Okay.
He must have been making a short joke, right?
deeshamrock
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Two of the Kings prospects are on opposing rosters tonight on the World Junior Summer showcase tonight at 7 pm EST on NHL Network (but they replay the games later if you miss is live)
Kale Clague (Team Canada) AND Mikey Anderson (TEAM USA)
Vilardi was invited but unable to attend.
Kale Clague (Team Canada) AND Mikey Anderson (TEAM USA)
Vilardi was invited but unable to attend.
deeshamrock
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http://www.timescolonist.com/sports/victoria-royals-phillips-chases-world-junior-dream-1.21542269
according to the above article, it was due to injury.
KopitarFAN
Reno Sucks!
Vilardi not playing is probably related to last years injuries, he got hurt playing in this event last year.
Don't think, the Kings are a bad team. They can reach the Playoffs and who knows from there on?
They should try to get a little more deep on some positions.
1. Try to trade for John Merrill. His value isn't very high and Vegas needs to get rid of some defenders, otherwise they loose them trough waivers. I would offer something like Mersch and a 6th round pick. Merrill was always a dependable player when he found some self-confidence while playing a longer streak without injuries (didn't happen to often). He is something between a number 4 and number 6 defender (much like Folin) and would give us deep, if someone is injuried or Gravel and LaDue falter. Both are waiver extemd, so no real harm there.
2. Try to upgrade on RW. Jagr! I know, he's old, but better than everything out there. Sign him for 1 year (we don't know if Gaborik will play a lot of games next season) at around 3.75. He's worth it and could be (if everything goes wrong) a trade chip in March.
3. What about Sheahan? Detroit desperatly needs to shed some salary. His numbers last year where awful - but let's face it - nobody played well last year in Detroit. Since Babcock is gone, nearly every players numbers went down. Send them Dowd or Nolan and a late pick. Sheahan had 36 points two years ago and could be a perfect 3. line center.
They should try to get a little more deep on some positions.
1. Try to trade for John Merrill. His value isn't very high and Vegas needs to get rid of some defenders, otherwise they loose them trough waivers. I would offer something like Mersch and a 6th round pick. Merrill was always a dependable player when he found some self-confidence while playing a longer streak without injuries (didn't happen to often). He is something between a number 4 and number 6 defender (much like Folin) and would give us deep, if someone is injuried or Gravel and LaDue falter. Both are waiver extemd, so no real harm there.
2. Try to upgrade on RW. Jagr! I know, he's old, but better than everything out there. Sign him for 1 year (we don't know if Gaborik will play a lot of games next season) at around 3.75. He's worth it and could be (if everything goes wrong) a trade chip in March.
3. What about Sheahan? Detroit desperatly needs to shed some salary. His numbers last year where awful - but let's face it - nobody played well last year in Detroit. Since Babcock is gone, nearly every players numbers went down. Send them Dowd or Nolan and a late pick. Sheahan had 36 points two years ago and could be a perfect 3. line center.
deeshamrock
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1. Kings d wasn't the issue last year and their young trio of d will progress fine with more minutes. If anything, Luc and Blake might opt to move AMart or Muzzin to upgrade the top 6. Saw quite a bit of Merril as a Devil and he was inconsistent, lacks a physical game and has no offensive inclinations. There's a reason Shero exposed him. He's replaceable.
2. Jagr- no thanks, if Luc or Blake wanted him, he'd have been signed and not Cammy. Much better to bring one of the kids up and give them the minutes they need to develop.
3. Sheahan- I like him, but he's had a bit of issues with consistency. He was very good his first 2 years in the league and not so good (last year he was awful, was well into March with 0 goals ) the last 2 yrs. So I'm not sure who the real Sheahan is but right now, given his fall off, it shouldn't cost much and Wings need cap space, even 2M helps.
I've heard /read that the Pens (who want to upgrade their bottom 9 centers) are very interested in him. Holland does have to move somebody out to be CAP compliant by the start of the year and the names I've heard are Ericcson, whose pulling in 4.25M per and barely a 3rd pairing d and Nyquist (4.75) are the contracts he wants to move out. I'm sure they'd love to trade Green (6M ) but that will be hard to move, his contract expires after this year (as does Mrazek's 4M) and they will then have (counting Sheahan's 2M) 12 M if they want to chase JT. (But I can't see him signing there)
Sheahan could had cheap and maybe the change of scenery would bring his game back. He might be a solid 3rd iiner.
He missed the workout at the combine, missed this, and fell in the draft. People can deny an injury, but something is going on there
Merrill was the perpetual "maybe this is the year" player. Looked so good as a freshman at Michigan but suspension/injury stymied his next two years. Posted this on the Vegas board when he got selected in the Expansion Draft:
When the Devils had no other options but to play Merrill heavy minutes last year, he performed pretty well. But when Andy Greene came back, Merrill reverted back.
KingsOfCali25
Start up the Tank!
I've talked to a couple of Detroit fans that would be ok trading...
Nyquist + Sheahan for Martinez + Dowd/Shore
Cammalleri--Kopitar--Nyquist
Pearson--Carter--Toffoli
Brown--Sheahan--Brodz
Clifford--Shore/Dowd--Lewis
Mersch, Nolan, Gaborik (LTIR)
Forbort--Doughty
Muzzin--LaDue
Gravel--Frolin
XXX
Quick
Kuemper/Campbell
The Tikkanen
Pest
The fans that think it's a given that Gaborik starts the season on LTIR need to take themselves over to Instagram and look at his account. He's ready right now.
AlphaBravo
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That is what is anticipated as of now. Rosen even said so in his recent blog post that Gaborik wont be at training camp and will likely miss the beginning of the season. Ridding a bike and playing around with your girlfriend is not the same as playing full contact NHL games.
Do you have something from Rosen less than a week old? If not, you're conveying incorrect information.
The Tikkanen
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Are you just a mouthpiece for Rosen or can you form your own opinion based on new information?
King'sPawn
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So you're calling him a mouthpiece for saying what information was given to us by Rosen but you're more qualified to assess the readiness and be a mouthpiece for Gaborik... because you look at his Instagram account?
Am I missing out on a joke somewhere?
Axl Rhoadz
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I follow him on Instagram, and I don't see anything that says he's ready. Doing rope exercises doesn't necessarily mean he's ready to play NHL hockey. Or does it?
The Tikkanen
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What injury would you possibly be cleared for to do that exercise? The other guy said he was riding a bike and won't be ready which is completely made up. There are perfectly healthy Kings fans who can't do that exercise right now. Well, perfectly healthy isn't accurate, somewhat healthy maybe.
I can see the kings being a better team next year. Not because of Camm (although I do think if he can stay healthy he will fit in nicely), but because of law of averages. LA was one of the best Corsi teams last year with terrible PDO number do to sub par shooting %.
I am more of a sutter fan than most but the offence needed to change. The players were not getting to the high danger scoring areas. If that changes the shooting percent will go up.
Also I think a full year of LaDue and Forbort with a year of seasoning will help the defense. Especially LaDue should make LA's transition game better.
I don't have expectations for the Kings to be a cup contender but definitely a playoff team.
I am more of a sutter fan than most but the offence needed to change. The players were not getting to the high danger scoring areas. If that changes the shooting percent will go up.
Also I think a full year of LaDue and Forbort with a year of seasoning will help the defense. Especially LaDue should make LA's transition game better.
I don't have expectations for the Kings to be a cup contender but definitely a playoff team.
Raccoon Jesus
We were right there
Wasn't it a lower-body injury? I'm no doctor, but battle ropes seem like the perfect exercise to stay remotely conditioned while not overly stressing lower body.
Ziggy Stardust
Master Debater
Think he hobbled into his newly bought Ferrari? I wouldn't be surprised if Gaborik was on the ice on the first day of camp. I also wouldn't be surprised if he wound up on IR after appearing in a preseason game.
AlphaBravo
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This is the dumbest comment I have read on this board. No fan here has inside knowledge regarding Gaborik's health. Unless you are Gaborik's doctor or his best friend and he confided in you that he will be ready day 1 of training camp or day 1 of the season, then the best source to rely on is the guy who actually talks to the players, coaches, GM etc., i.e., Rosen.
I didn't realize looking at photos qualifies you to formulate an opinion that Gaborik is fully healthy and will be ready to play an intense physical contact game of NHL hockey in a few months.
deeshamrock
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From last week:
http://lakingsinsider.com/2017/08/02/player-evaluation-gaborik-3/
described as a 'chronic issue associated with his knee'
