2017 NHL Draft Part III (June 23-24)
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I don't know. I feel like we're so far away from contending status at this point that getting someone who's ready in 1 or 2 years is almost irrelevant in the grand scheme of things. I'd rather get a potentially better player who takes longer to arrive than to get a player who's much closer but has a lower ceiling.
Pavels Dog
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No one we draft at #9 should be 4 years away if they actually develop well.
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Last year it was done just like that. Hope Holland had learn from previous mistake
Just finished my part of a 2 round mock draft. I drafted Pettersson at 9 and Chytil at 38. I'd be thrilled if this is how the draft unfolded for the Wings
That's all i want
With a top ten pick and our first in thirty years I hope we don't blow it with a long term project
A kid who will remain in college or Europe for another three years then needing at least a year in grand rapids
They can play where ever next season but after that, one in GR and then the NHL.
Pavels Dog
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Well last year we made our first pick at #20, and even at #16 we're unlikely to have taken Chychrun but rather a 2-4 year project. #9 is different, there should be some guys available that are ready in 1-2 years. Personally I think we should draft based on potential and not so much how close to the NHL they are, but in the top 10 you can get a bit of both.
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Wow, didn't even realize the draft was next Friday. That's so exciting.
That would be pretty sweet.
I think Petterson would fall into that kind of time frame. But I'd be ok with that.
What if that long term project becomes a great player? Or we pass on the long term project who becomes a great player?
That would be pretty sweet.
I think Petterson would fall into that kind of time frame. But I'd be ok with that.
What if that long term project becomes a great player? Or we pass on the long term project who becomes a great player?
Frk It
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If follow this as a guide, would hope for something like
#9- Glass/Necas
#38 - Joseph/Lipanov
#72 - Morand/Samorukov
I would say based on historical trends for players drafted in the 8-10 range, those who went on to meaningful long nhl careers made the show in under four years post draft whereas those who didn't were busts
I am comfortable with my thoughts/hopes for this draft.
Frk It
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Only other players this light I can think of that went top 10 were Kane and Marner. Who were 160 something lbs at 5'11", not 6'2".
So this is kind of unprecedented. But there are going to be a lot of unprecedented things that happen in this draft.
Just understand if you pass on him for this, there is the potential for you to look really dumb in 5 years. That's probably why he is going to be off the board by the time we pick at #9.
I am not gonna lie and say he isnt skilled and intriguing but nor will I not say that his slight frame and euro background (birth AND where he plays) dosent scare me for a team desperate for a young impact player sooner rather than later (2 full seasons post draft then NHL)
If he can do that(if that's the thinking) then alright sign me up..
It looks like Rasmussen has been gathering some momentum the past couple of months. I don't really like him for a high first round pick, but I'm hoping someone ahead of us reaches for on him and helps push someone else down to us.
HisNoodliness
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Honestly I'm not too worried about anyone having close to a 4+ years window without them just busting to begin with. No one projected to go in our range should take longer than 3 (with the reasonable expectation being 1 year wherever they already are, 1 year with the Griffins then the show).
Petterson is the guy who should take the longest and I'd say at the longest he's two years in Sweden, a year in the AHL, then he'll be in the NHL. And that'd be the uber-conservative Ken Holland timeframe. When he gets snatched up by Vegas I expect a year in Sweden, most of a season in the AHL before making the team for the last ten games of the season and sticking there after that. It won't take him more than 2 years to add 15-25 pounds.
HisNoodliness
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If we take Rasmussen at 9 I won't watch another Wings game through a legitimate source (only streams) or buy any merchandise until Holland is gone.
Frk It
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Think he's ranked about the same or actually lower than where he was 6 months ago.
At any rate, not what I am looking for at #9.
Frk It
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Wow, that's intense lol. I wouldn't like the pick, but not sure it's even the pick I would hate most.
I think I'd be more unhappy if we were to take Vesalainen or Tolvanen. Although those options seem less likely.
HisNoodliness
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Yeah it's perhaps a bit intense but it's not even as much that I would absolutely hate the pick as much as it would be the straw breaking my back. It would feel like another hard indication of committing to safe, mediocre play instead of trying to ever actualy compete.
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I hope McKenzie is wrong, because if the top 8 ends up like that, the Wings aren't going to have much of that top tier to choose from. Hopefully Necas is still on the board. It'll be bad news if he's not.
Boomhower
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Just to be clear these are not MacKenzie's personal rankings, He does not compile a list based on his own rankings/opinion.
From last years final rankings;
But yes, if those players go top 8 it would be a kick in the nuts.. I agree.
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