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A lot of the stuff i've read about this class is that it lacks the Top 2 or 3 players that they've had in recent years (McDavid, Matthews, Eichel, Ekblad etc), but outside the Top 5 it's average, so I think this is a good opportunity for teams that have a full compliment of picks as the Kings do to add some talent across the board.
 
Ziggy Stardust said:
The Kings are picking tenth in the second round and every round thereafter in which they have their own selection.

The lottery results only impact the first round, which resulted in the Kings dropping from 10 to 11.
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Thank you for summarizing it more succintly than I was going to!
 
Basilisk said:
If Rasmussen goes top 10, one of those guys falls into the 11 slot. Book it!!!
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Devils- Patrick Nolan
Flyers- Nico Hischier
Stars- Miro Heiskanen - D
Avs- Timothy Liljegren - D
Canucks- Gabriel Vilardi

Knights- Casey Middelstadt
Coyotes- Cale Makar - D
Sabres- Juuso Valimaki - D... they desperately need defensemen so they may reach here...
Red Wings- Cody Glass
Panthers- Nicholas Suzuki

Kings- Owen Tippett
 
Basilisk said:
If Rasmussen goes top 10, one of those guys falls into the 11 slot. Book it!!!
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After researching Rasmussen more, I would be fine if the he falls to 11 and the Kings deem he is BPA there. I didn't know he was leading the OHL in goals with 17, when he got injured. From reading reports, he skates / moves well, has playmaking skills and always goes to the net. A lot to like there, besides his size. One wonders what his numbers may have been, without the injury. More than one of: Necas, Tippett, Rasmussen, Pettersson, Suzuki will be there at 11 and hoping for one of them. Unless Glass or Liljegren fall that far.
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Michael Rasmussen's Player Profile

ISS Hockey - Mar. 8th: "Out of lineup with lower body injury – almost impossible to move once parked in front of the net."

Jeff Marek of Sportsnet - Mar. 8th: "A wrist injury will cost him three months, but scouts still rave. Rasmussen can score goals and for a 6-foot-5 player, scouts are impressed at how well he gets around the ice. Has been great on the PP."

Mike Morreale of NHL.com - Feb. 16th: "[Rasmussen] has either the best natural instinct or willingness to get to the net and go around the net," Tri-City coach Mike Williamson said. "And it sounds simple, but a lot of guys play on the perimeter, are not willing to go there, or just are off to the side enough to make it easy for a goalie. But his natural first instinct when he gets over the blue line is to get around the net."

ISS Hockey - Feb. 7th: "Skilled big man w/the size that scouts fawn over & the best is yet to come from him."

Mike Morreale NHL.com - Jan. 20th: "He knows how to use his 6-foot-6, 215-pound frame to his fullest advantage. He has shown more confidence this season with 51 points (30 goals, 21 assists) in 46 games. Does a fine job getting to the dirty areas to provide screens and get deflections, and knows how to protect the puck with his reach."

Dennis Schellenberg Hockey Prospectus - Nov. 9th: "A big kid with strong puck protection skills. Works hard all over the ice and has good playmaking skills. Uses his good vision and passing skills to distribute the puck effectively. "
 
Peter James Bond II said:
After researching Rasmussen more, I would be fine if the he falls to 11 and the Kings deem he is BPA there. I didn't know he was leading the OHL in goals with 17, when he got injured. From reading reports, he skates / moves well, has playmaking skills and always goes to the net. A lot to like there, besides his size. One wonders what his numbers may have been, without the injury. More than one of: Necas, Tippett, Rasmussen, Pettersson, Suzuki will be there at 11 and hoping for one of them. Unless Glass or Liljegren fall that far.
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Michael Rasmussen's Player Profile

ISS Hockey - Mar. 8th: "Out of lineup with lower body injury – almost impossible to move once parked in front of the net."

Jeff Marek of Sportsnet - Mar. 8th: "A wrist injury will cost him three months, but scouts still rave. Rasmussen can score goals and for a 6-foot-5 player, scouts are impressed at how well he gets around the ice. Has been great on the PP."

Mike Morreale of NHL.com - Feb. 16th: "[Rasmussen] has either the best natural instinct or willingness to get to the net and go around the net," Tri-City coach Mike Williamson said. "And it sounds simple, but a lot of guys play on the perimeter, are not willing to go there, or just are off to the side enough to make it easy for a goalie. But his natural first instinct when he gets over the blue line is to get around the net."

ISS Hockey - Feb. 7th: "Skilled big man w/the size that scouts fawn over & the best is yet to come from him."

Mike Morreale NHL.com - Jan. 20th: "He knows how to use his 6-foot-6, 215-pound frame to his fullest advantage. He has shown more confidence this season with 51 points (30 goals, 21 assists) in 46 games. Does a fine job getting to the dirty areas to provide screens and get deflections, and knows how to protect the puck with his reach."

Dennis Schellenberg Hockey Prospectus - Nov. 9th: "A big kid with strong puck protection skills. Works hard all over the ice and has good playmaking skills. Uses his good vision and passing skills to distribute the puck effectively. "
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Here's another quote and I honestly think I've underestimated the kid....

Rasmussen placed fifth in the on-ice portion of testing conducted at the 2017 CHL/NHL Top Prospects Game in Quebec City on Jan. 29. He finished first in the 30-meter backwards skating drill and third in the reaction with puck exercise.:amazed:
 
Martin Necas
“Plays a very confident two-way game. Defensively responsible, has a great engine and doesn’t tire.” – Jeff Marek, Sportsnet.com

“Necas (6-0, 167) is an excellent skater with a fine set of tools. He was captain for the Czech Republic at the 2016 Ivan Hlinka Memorial Cup in August and had two goals and four assists in four games. He’s fast, has great balance and has confidence in his ability to score and create opportunities. ” – Mike Morreale, NHL.com

“A rather smallish-sized energy player with great offensive upside and creativity. A lightning-quick skater who likes to handle the puck and creates scoring chances. Can distribute the puck with accuracy and likes to set up teammates.” – Dennis Schellenberg

Necas will need to work on gaining weight and refining his game if he wants to make an impact at the NHL level. His high offensive upside bode for his chances at succeeding, but he’ll need to add to his frame if he wants to last through the rigorous NHL schedule. His elite-level speed, skating and ability to make plays offensively, defensively and in the faceoff circle make him a strong candidate to become a dynamic top-six playmaking center.
 
Nick Suzuki
“A smart offensive center that thinks the game at a fast pace and makes very good decisions on a consistent basis. Though he may not be the biggest player on the ice, Suzuki plays a thick, sturdy game and is hard to knock off the puck, especially when he has his feet moving. He’s an excellent skater that knows his own game well. Skilled with the puck and has a high level of hockey sense. This blend of talent and work ethic is hard to come by, invaluable in the long run.” –Elite Prospects

“One of the most likable players in this draft class because of his hustle and consistency. Dating back to last year, he’s been one of the most impressive 99’s in the OHL. Does everything for the Attack and projects as a very well rounded NHL player too. I think the scary thing about Suzuki though is that he’s still pretty physically immature. He’s one of the youngest players available in the draft, with room to grow in his puck protection ability and skating strength. Perhaps there’s even a late growth spurt in there too. With a strong performance in the OHL playoffs and/or the Under 18’s, Suzuki is a guy who I could see sneaking into the lottery.” – Brock Otten, OHL Prospects

“Suzuki is an undersized dynamic offensive player who uses his speed and playmaking ability to impact the game. While slightly undersized he is not shy to play physically and go to the net or dig for pucks in the corner. Suzuki thinks the game fast and has the hands and feet to match which makes him a projectable NHL player. Suzuki has a motor that won’t quit on plays and he is a reliable back checker as well making him an effective two-way player. Suzuki made a strong impression as a rookie year scoring 20 goals for the Owen Sound Attack and had a strong showing to start his draft year at the Ivan Hlinka Tournament for Canada with a goal and three points in four games, this season his offensive totals have exploded with 45 goals and 95 points. Despite being a short player, he is strong on the puck, has speed and skill to burn and is a smart player, he will play in a top six role in the NHL when he is ready.” – Peter Harling

Suzuki projects as a top-six forward with the upside of a number-one center. He does need to fill out but that’s just a matter of time. He makes his linemates better thanks to the skill he brings. If you need a goal, he’ll get that for you. If you need dynamic playmaking, he can do that too. If you need a defensive stop, he’s good for that as well. His total package makes his floor very high.
 
Timothy Liljegren- D
Cody Glass- C
Owen Tippett- W
Martin Necas- C
Nick Suzuki- C
Ryan Poehling- C
Michael Rasmussen- C

They guys i would want/love/make a trade for.... and in that exact order...
 
kings11 said:
Timothy Liljegren- D
Cody Glass- C
Owen Tippett- W
Martin Necas- C
Nick Suzuki- C
Ryan Poehling- C
Michael Rasmussen- C

They guys i would want/love/make a trade for.... and in that exact order...
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Kind of similar, but shocked you don't list Pettersson. If I was forced to pick potentially realistic names (So no Patrick, Hischier, Mittlestadt, Heiskanen, Vilardi):
1. Pettersson
2. Liljegren
3. Glass
4. Tippett
Small gap
5. Necas
6. Makar
7. Suzuki
8. Rasmussen

bigger drop to whoever else realistically would be there. I'd be pissed off if we went Poehling at #11. #20 sure, but #11 no way. The latter four I'd put in that order yet have them as identical.
 
AnThGrt said:
Kind of similar, but shocked you don't list Pettersson. If I was forced to pick potentially realistic names (So no Patrick, Hischier, Mittlestadt, Heiskanen, Vilardi):
1. Pettersson
2. Liljegren
3. Glass
4. Tippett
Small gap
5. Necas
6. Makar
7. Suzuki
8. Rasmussen

bigger drop to whoever else realistically would be there. I'd be pissed off if we went Poehling at #11. #20 sure, but #11 no way. The latter four I'd put in that order yet have them as identical.
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Of the 8 you have listed, I would rank them:
1. Glass
2. Suzuki
3. Petterson
4. Liljegren
5. Necas
6. Tippett
7. Rasmussen
8. Makar

Of course, this is subject to change based on more I read and see.
 
No matter who they pick, with this being their highest draft selection since Brayden Schenn at 5th overall in 2009, the Kings need to draft and develop a player who can be a fixture in the top six for a long time. They need to bring in more talent internally until the cap situation is resolved, which likely won't happen until Gaborik and/or Brown are gone.
 
Ziggy Stardust said:
No matter who they pick, with this being their highest draft selection since Brayden Schenn at 5th overall in 2009, the Kings need to draft and develop a player who can be a fixture in the top six for a long time. They need to bring in more talent internally until the cap situation is resolved, which likely won't happen until Gaborik and/or Brown are gone.
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totally agree this pick needs to be in our top six asap
 
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