WJC: 2017 Canada Roster Talk - Part 1

[Stizzle]

Konecny is in Philly for the whole year. Hextall will not release him for the tournament. He has made that clear. Once a Jr aged kid makes the Flyers, he is here all year. You guys can stop speculating.

 

[JackSlater]

OHL rosters for the CIBC Canada/Russia series are to be announced tomorrow so I wonder if they'll be able to put him on the roster. If not I would hope he's the first on the list for reserve forwards.

The group of players from the OHL is not very strong this year. It would be very strange to see him not selected. I didn't know the rosters would be announced so soon though... that is interesting.

 

[Gigantor The Goalie]

The group of players from the OHL is not very strong this year. It would be very strange to see him not selected. I didn't know the rosters would be announced so soon though... that is interesting.

WHL roster has already been announced and I'm not knocking Speers, I just don't know if he was released early enough for the roster or if the people that put the roster together can make room for him this close to releasing it.

 

[Dodospice]

This is 100% dependent on some guys getting released from the NHL (Crouse, Barzal, Chabot and maybe Strome are the only ones with a realistic chance). The roster/my roster would look something like this.

Jost- Strome "A"- Gauthier
Dubois- Barzal- Patrick
Crouse "A" - McLeod- Stephens "C"
Howden- Roy- Speers
Senyshyn

Chabot- Juulsen
Lauzon- Myers
Hague- Fabbro
Girard

Hart
Ingram
Booth

The only other guys I seriously considered were: Benson, Kyrou, Mascherin, Raddysh up front. Clague, Foote, Meloche, Roy on defence and Fitzpatrick in net.

 

[Gigantor The Goalie]

Cal Foote can't play this year. He'll have to wait until next years WJC to play for Team Canada.

 

[wishywashy19]

This is 100% dependent on some guys getting released from the NHL (Crouse, Barzal, Chabot and maybe Strome are the only ones with a realistic chance). The roster/my roster would look something like this.

Jost- Strome "A"- Gauthier
Dubois- Barzal- Patrick
Crouse "A" - McLeod- Stephens "C"
Howden- Roy- Speers
Senyshyn

Chabot- Juulsen
Lauzon- Myers
Hague- Fabbro
Girard

Hart
Ingram
Booth

The only other guys I seriously considered were: Benson, Kyrou, Mascherin, Raddysh up front. Clague, Foote, Meloche, Roy on defence and Fitzpatrick in net.

that's about a good a team as you can expect.
I like Mathieu Joseph( long shot) instead of Howden or someone with a bit of size and grit

 

[1Gold Standard]

The group of players from the OHL is not very strong this year. It would be very strange to see him not selected. I didn't know the rosters would be announced so soon though... that is interesting.

crickets. not much action going on in this thread lately. Not that surprised really... can't say I'm all that jazzed for this year's tournament...and I haven't miss one since '87 and the infamous Piestany Punch up.

 

[UsernameWasTaken]

The group of players from the OHL is not very strong this year. It would be very strange to see him not selected. I didn't know the rosters would be announced so soon though... that is interesting.

These are the OHL players playing in the Canada/Russia series:

Team OHL Roster – North Bay – November 10

*players competing in both games

Goaltenders (2):
Evan Cormier (Saginaw Spirit)*
Dylan Wells (Peterborough Petes)

Defencemen (5):
Kyle Capobianco (Sudbury Wolves)
Nicolas Hague (Mississauga Steelheads)*
Matt Spencer (Peterborough Petes)
Logan Stanley (Windsor Spitfires)
Mitchell Vande Sompel (Oshawa Generals)

Forwards‎ (11):
Will Bitten (Hamilton Bulldogs)*
Anthony Cirelli (Oshawa Generals)
Jordan Kyrou (Sarnia Sting)*
Adam Mascherin (Kitchener Rangers)*
Brett McKenzie (North Bay Battalion)*
Michael McLeod (Mississauga Steelheads)*
Zachary Senyshyn (Sault Ste. Marie Greyhounds)*
Givani Smith (Guelph Storm)*
Blake Speers (Sault Ste. Marie Greyhounds)*
Mitchell Stephens (Saginaw Spirit)*
Gabriel Vilardi (Windsor Spitfires)

Staff:
Head Coach – Kris Knoblauch (Erie Otters)
Assistant Coach – Stan Butler (North Bay Battalion)
Athletic Therapist/Equipment Manager – James Borrelli (North Bay Battalion)
Assistant Equipment Manager – Daryl Ashenden

Team OHL Roster – Hamilton – November 14

*players competing in both games

Goaltenders (2):
Evan Cormier (Saginaw Spirit)*
Michael McNiven (Owen Sound Attack)

Defencemen (5):
Jacob Friend (Owen Sound Attack)
Nicolas Hague (Mississauga Steelheads)*
Garrett McFadden (Guelph Storm)
Victor Mete (London Knights)
Markus Phillips (Owen Sound Attack)

Forwards (11):
Will Bitten (Hamilton Bulldogs)*
Graham Knott (Niagara IceDogs)
Jordan Kyrou (Sarnia Sting)*
Adam Mascherin (Kitchener Rangers)*
Brett McKenzie (North Bay Battalion)*
Michael McLeod (Mississauga Steelheads)*
Taylor Raddysh (Erie Otters)
Zachary Senyshyn (Sault Ste. Marie Greyhounds)*
Givani Smith (Guelph Storm)*
Blake Speers (Sault Ste. Marie Greyhounds)*
Mitchell Stephens (Saginaw Spirit)*

Staff:
Head Coach – Dominique Ducharme (Drummondville Voltigeurs)
Assistant Coach – Kris Knoblauch (Erie Otters)
Athletic Therapist – JP Laciak (Hamilton Bulldogs)
Equipment Manager – Kasey LaMorre (Hamilton Bulldogs)

http://chl.ca/article/team-ohl-roster-announced-for-2016-cibc-canada-russia-series

 

[JackSlater]

crickets. not much action going on in this thread lately. Not that surprised really... can't say I'm all that jazzed for this year's tournament...and I haven't miss one since '87 and the infamous Piestany Punch up.

It may just be me, but I can't remember a team that seemed more wide open than this one. Other than the returning players I don't know if I could name a single lock to make the team, outside of maybe Patrick and Dubois. Even Dubois is off to a slow start though.

 

[tfantasy]

This is 100% dependent on some guys getting released from the NHL (Crouse, Barzal, Chabot and maybe Strome are the only ones with a realistic chance). The roster/my roster would look something like this.

Jost- Strome "A"- Gauthier
Dubois- Barzal- Patrick
Crouse "A" - McLeod- Stephens "C"
Howden- Roy- Speers
Senyshyn

Chabot- Juulsen
Lauzon- Myers
Hague- Fabbro
Girard

Hart
Ingram
Booth

The only other guys I seriously considered were: Benson, Kyrou, Mascherin, Raddysh up front. Clague, Foote, Meloche, Roy on defence and Fitzpatrick in net.

Very nice. I can see something line this come tournament time.

 

[Get North]

Here's the QMJHL's roster for the Super Series:

Goaltenders (2):
Callum Booth (Quebec Remparts)
Evan Fitzpatrick (Sherbrooke Phoenix)

Defencemen (8):
Frederic Allard (Chicoutimi Sagueneens)
Simon Bourque (Rimouski Oceanic)
Guillaume Brisebois (Charlottetown Islanders)
Samuel Girard (Shawinigan Cataractes)
Jeremy Lauzon (Rouyn-Noranda Huskies)
Nicolas Meloche (Gatineau Olympiques)
Philippe Myers (Rouyn-Noranda Huskies)
Jeremy Roy (Blainville-Boisbriand Armada)

Forwards (12):
Alex Barre-Boulet (Drummondville Voltigeurs)
Jean-Christophe Beaudin (Rouyn-Noranda Huskies)
Maxime Comtois (Victoriaville Tigres)
Alex Dostie (Gatineau Olympiques)
Pierre-Luc Dubois (Cape Breton Screaming Eagles)
Gabriel Fontaine (Rouyn-Noranda Huskies)
Alexandre Fortin (Rouyn-Noranda Huskies)
Julien Gauthier (Val-d’Or Foreurs)
Brandon Gignac (Shawinigan Cataractes)
Pascal Laberge (Victoriaville Tigres)
Mathieu Joseph (Saint John Sea Dogs)
Nicolas Roy (Chicoutimi Sagueneens)

It may just be me, but I can't remember a team that seemed more wide open than this one. Other than the returning players I don't know if I could name a single lock to make the team, outside of maybe Patrick and Dubois. Even Dubois is off to a slow start though.

It does feel like there is a lot more depth and a lot of names who can take spots on the team. A guy like Lucas Johansen didn't get named to the WHL Super Series. I think a lot of the roster spots will be decided in the Super Series and the camp. A lot of kids on the similar level, the one is playing the smoothest and best closest to the tournament will be the better choice in my opinion.

 

[UsernameWasTaken]

Here are all the rosters for the Canada/Russia series (I started a thread for it on the prospects board if anyone wants to discuss in more detail).

WHL Roster

OHL Roster

QMJHL Roster

Get North and I have already posted the OHL, Q rosters. I'm too lazy to copy/paste the WHL one. You can click the link.

 

[1Gold Standard]

It may just be me, but I can't remember a team that seemed more wide open than this one. Other than the returning players I don't know if I could name a single lock to make the team, outside of maybe Patrick and Dubois. Even Dubois is off to a slow start though.

NHL GMs are ruining the tournament for me...but perhaps my interest in it will pick up once I can smell Christmas around the corner.

The good news is that my Paris team is shaping up and looking good for this spring. Still early, but some promising junior age players + a few A team players look to be available. I'm not counting on players who played in the WCoH aside from a few obvious exceptions, Tavares and a rink rat like O'Reilly. And if PK wants back on to the big boys' team, he'd be wise not to decline an invite this time.

but we'll deal with that after Christmas.

 

[JackSlater]

It does feel like there is a lot more depth and a lot of names who can take spots on the team. A guy like Lucas Johansen didn't get named to the WHL Super Series. I think a lot of the roster spots will be decided in the Super Series and the camp. A lot of kids on the similar level, the one is playing the smoothest and best closest to the tournament will be the better choice in my opinion.

I also think that these games and the camp will have increased significance this year. Glancing a how some of the players are doing this year, not many stand out at the moment.

NHL GMs are ruining the tournament for me...but perhaps my interest in it will pick up once I can smell Christmas around the corner.

The good news is that my Paris team is shaping up and looking good for this spring. Still early, but some promising junior age players + a few A team players look to be available. I'm not counting on players who played in the WCoH aside from a few obvious exceptions, Tavares and a rink rat like O'Reilly. And if PK wants back on to the big boys' team, he'd be wise not to decline an invite this time.

but we'll deal with that after Christmas.

Canada shouldn't be missing more players than was the case at the beginning of this decade. The possibility of Strome and Barzal returning exists as well, and that would be huge.

As for the other tournament, who knows. If the NHL participates in the Olympics, that helps. If not, then it may be a very weak entry. Also, a ton of Canadian players already have extended seasons due to the NHL's gimmick tournament. Throw in guys who may be upset about being left out of the gimmick team and it could be a bad team. Way too unpredictable right now.

 

[Ryder Halak 2nd]

A friend Brett asked me to post this here..

After careful consideration and analysis, I've assessed the junior eligible players at the National Hockey League level and forecasted the ones who I maintain will be released for the tournament. In a player like Matt Barzal's case, a release is inevitable as their's a high probability he'll be back in junior within the next two weeks. The tougher calls involved the likes of Anthony Beauviller and Travis Konecny. Judging from what General Manager Hextall has insinuated, I'm sensing he will NOT be returned however I expect Beauviller will be afforded the opportunity to play in the tournament. The Arizona Coyotes, who seemingly have an entire team filled with juniors but can you blame them when realizing they employ Luke Schenn in their defensive core. Depth is not a strong suit and is an attributing factor for why so many juniors remain up. I've decided with Chychrun's early play and role with the Coyotes, he will not be sent back. Lawson Crouse very much like Barzal will be returned to junior(Kingston) shortly and with Dylan Strome I anticipate a Beauviller situtation where he is returned just in time for selection camp. I've heard some suggest he has nothing left to prove at the junior level and while that holds true, his '16 World Junior Performance was dissapointing to say the least so Hockey Canada and the Coyotes would like to see what Dylan can do on the world stage. Mitch Marner being as how he's been the Leafs second most effective forward, I give no chance of donning the red and white. Defensively, the only one really in question aside from Chychrun is Ottawa's Thomas Chabot but truthfully I foresee no scenario where he isn't made available.
Based off the fact that for the 2016 tournament, three goaltenders, twelve defenceman and seventeen forwards, these are the numbers I'm choosing to use although I am fully aware a new coaching regime may invite a different amount. Additionally, for the NHL players I'm choosing to include, I will in asterisks notate replacements if said player isn't sent back.
Alphabetical

Goaltenders:
Callum Booth(Halifax QMJHL)
Carter Hart(Everett WHL)
Conor Ingram(Kamloops WHL)

Defenceman:
Frederic Allard(Chicoutimi QMJHL)
Kyle Capobianco(Sudbury OHL)
Thomas Chabot(Ottawa/Saint John QMJHL)*
Dante Fabbro(Boston U NCAA)*
Samuel Girard(Shawinigan QMJHL)*
Brendan Guhle(Prince Albert WHL)*
Nicolas Hague(Mississauga OHL)
Noah Juulsen(Everett WHL)*
Jeremy Lauzon(Rouyn-Noranda QMJHL)*
Victor Mete(London OHL)*
Garrett McFadden(Guelph OHL)
Phillipe Myers(Rouyn-Noranda QMJHL)

*IF Chabot is a no-show, insert Parker Wotherspoon(Tri-City WHL)

Forwards:

Matt Barzal(New York Islanders/Seattle)*
Anthony Beauvillier(New York Islanders/Shawinigan)*
Lawson Crouse(Arizona/Kingston)*
Pierre-Luc Dubois(Cape Breton QMJHL)
Julien Gauthier(Val'dor Foreurs)*
Mathieu Joseph(Saint John QMJHL)*
Tyson Jost(North Dakota NCAA)*
Jordan Kyrou(Sarnia OHL)*
Pascal Laberge(Victoriaville QMJHL)*
Adam Mascherin(Kitchener OHL)*
Nolan Patrick(Brandon WHL)*
Nicholas Roy(Chicoutimi QMJHL)
Tyler Soy(Victoria WHL)
Blake Speers(Sault Ste.Marie OHL)*
Sam Steel(Regina WHL)
Mitchell Stephens(Saginaw OHL)*
Dylan Strome(Arizona/Erie)*

Replacement #1: Austin Wagner(Regina WHL)
Replacement #2:Michael McLeod(Mississauga OHL)
Replacement #3:Zach Senyshyn(Sault Ste.Marie OHL)
Replacement #4:Nick Merkley(Kelowna WHL)

My Projected Lineup:

LW C RW
Jost Barzal Strome
Mascherin Beauvillier Patrick
Crouse Stephens Kyrou
Gauthier Laberge Speers
Joseph


LD RD
Juulsen Chabot
Lauzon Guhle
Fabbro Girard
Mete

Goaltenders:

1.Hart
2.Booth

 

[Dodospice]

Very nice. I can see something line this come tournament time.

Hockey Canada will to a different route, they always do from the team I project but it's what I'd do at this moment.

 

[1Gold Standard]

I also think that these games and the camp will have increased significance this year. Glancing a how some of the players are doing this year, not many stand out at the moment.



Canada shouldn't be missing more players than was the case at the beginning of this decade. The possibility of Strome and Barzal returning exists as well, and that would be huge.

As for the other tournament, who knows. If the NHL participates in the Olympics, that helps. If not, then it may be a very weak entry. Also, a ton of Canadian players already have extended seasons due to the NHL's gimmick tournament. Throw in guys who may be upset about being left out of the gimmick team and it could be a bad team. Way too unpredictable right now.

the difference being that most of those players, with a few exceptions - Seguin's rookie year, deserved their spot on their NHL teams and played well. You're referring to players like Duchene, O'Reilly, Hall, Skinner etc etc...I have no issue with those players progressing on and missing out on a junior tournament...However when a GM takes the approach ELC contract > player development - that I have an issue with...and that's what I'm seeing more of this year than in the years that kicked off this decade.

Barzal, Crouse and Strome were all sitting in the pressbox last night eating popcorn and watching. That is ridiculous. At least Marner is playing lights out. I'd rather have Marner on the team at Christmas than Strome, but it looks as though Strome has to be sent back, in which case I hope Toronto doesn't release Marner, or releases him with the order and understanding that Strome and Marner won't be paired on the same line. I won't be able to handle a full month of TSN/Hockey Canada marketing BS on this imagined Strome-Marner chemistry since they were kids in the neighborhood playing street hockey. I just may lose another TV to a flying vase just like Torino '06.

 

[JackSlater]

the difference being that most of those players, with a few exceptions - Seguin's rookie year, deserved their spot on their NHL teams and played well. You're referring to players like Duchene, O'Reilly, Hall, Skinner etc etc...I have no issue with those players progressing on and missing out on a junior tournament...However when a GM takes the approach ELC contract > player development - that I have an issue with...and that's what I'm seeing more of this year than in the years that kicked off this decade.

Barzal, Crouse and Strome were all sitting in the pressbox last night eating popcorn and watching. That is ridiculous. At least Marner is playing lights out. I'd rather have Marner on the team at Christmas than Strome, but it looks as though Strome has to be sent back, in which case I hope Toronto doesn't release Marner, or releases him with the order and understanding that Strome and Marner won't be paired on the same line. I won't be able to handle a full month of TSN/Hockey Canada marketing BS on this imagined Strome-Marner chemistry since they were kids in the neighborhood playing street hockey. I just may lose another TV to a flying vase just like Torino '06.

I agree about the way GMs are using (or not using) these players. If they make the team, that's fine. If they can't make the team outright, send them to junior. It's simply idiotic what has gone on thus far with Barzal, Strome and Chabot.

 

[93LEAFS]

I agree about the way GMs are using (or not using) these players. If they make the team, that's fine. If they can't make the team outright, send them to junior. It's simply idiotic what has gone on thus far with Barzal, Strome and Chabot.

It happened last year with Virtanen. I have no idea what these teams are thinking. Chabot is the most confusing, he's got like 7 minutes in 2 weeks, while his team sent Logan Brown back after 1 preseason game. Maybe they'll keep them up til mid-November, try to conditioning stint them in the AHL for 2 weeks, then release them to the WJC camp and back to junior.

 

[1Gold Standard]

I agree about the way GMs are using (or not using) these players. If they make the team, that's fine. If they can't make the team outright, send them to junior. It's simply idiotic what has gone on thus far with Barzal, Strome and Chabot.

players that won't be on the team and deservedly so

C MCDAVID T KONECNY M MARNER A BEAUVILLIER J CHYCHRUN

I'd really love to have the 3 highlighted players though. Not going to happen though. Chychrun is more of a loss for next year's team. We don't have the depth in the 98s to cover many players lost to the NHL.

The 4 players that should be back in junior ASAP

L CROUSE M BARZAL D STROME T CHABOT

I really want those 2 on the team.

 

[UsernameWasTaken]

I agree about the way GMs are using (or not using) these players. If they make the team, that's fine. If they can't make the team outright, send them to junior. It's simply idiotic what has gone on thus far with Barzal, Strome and Chabot.

I agree. I have no idea what they're thinking. It's idiotic.

 

[86Habs]

I agree about the way GMs are using (or not using) these players. If they make the team, that's fine. If they can't make the team outright, send them to junior. It's simply idiotic what has gone on thus far with Barzal, Strome and Chabot.

The GMs are basically saying that practice reps with the big boys and game action ~once/week is better for their development than lighting up the CHL. I can kind of buy it in Strome's case, as running roughshod over the OHL for the 3rd year in a row isn't going to do him a lot of good and, in my personal opinion, potentially ingrain some bad habits that are already pretty visible - the 2 second wind-ups on his wristers and mediocre motor to name two. But still, game action even if you're a cut above the competition is the better option. Barzal and Chabot should be sent back to Junior ASAP. Presumably all three should be available come Christmastime, in addition to Crouse.

 

[Zaddy]

The GMs are basically saying that practice reps with the big boys and game action ~once/week is better for their development than lighting up the CHL. I can kind of buy it in Strome's case, as running roughshod over the OHL for the 3rd year in a row isn't going to do him a lot of good and, in my personal opinion, potentially ingrain some bad habits that are already pretty visible - the 2 second wind-ups on his wristers and mediocre motor to name two. But still, game action even if you're a cut above the competition is the better option. Barzal and Chabot should be sent back to Junior ASAP. Presumably all three should be available come Christmastime, in addition to Crouse.

Agreed, with Strome you can kinda see the reason for him staying up but Barzal and Chabot should for sure be sent back, probably Crouse too. Not sure what the GM's are thinking here, these kids need to play.

 

[1Gold Standard]

The GMs are basically saying that practice reps with the big boys and game action ~once/week is better for their development than lighting up the CHL. I can kind of buy it in Strome's case, as running roughshod over the OHL for the 3rd year in a row isn't going to do him a lot of good and, in my personal opinion, potentially ingrain some bad habits that are already pretty visible - the 2 second wind-ups on his wristers and mediocre motor to name two. But still, game action even if you're a cut above the competition is the better option. Barzal and Chabot should be sent back to Junior ASAP. Presumably all three should be available come Christmastime, in addition to Crouse.

nah, I don't buy that argument for a minute. That's an NHL GM framing it as a "player development" decision when it's not.

This is the 1 area though where I agree that a change in the NHL-CHL agreement would be helpful. There should be more liberal recall rules for 19 year old CHL players to shuttle back and forth from NHL to CHL teams instead.

 

[jj cale]

This will have to be a chip on their shoulder underdog team this year if we are to win. Those type of teams rely on good coaching, team spirit, willingness to battle hard on each and every shift and just enough skill to take advantage of hard fought for opportunities when they come. Of course the backbone of these types of teams is always great goaltending but the problem is when is the last time we have gotten that at the WJC?, it seems like an eternity.

We need a Gavle 93 type performance.