2017 Bruins Playoffs Odds II - Currently 74.1% chance of qualifying

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zaYG

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I really hope the Bruins do make it. I'm starting to come around to the idea that they could make some noise in the playoffs. This team has 3 legitimately elite forwards in 63/88/37 that can definitely take over a series. Rask has been solid. If these guys continue to play at an extremely high level and make up for the lack of depth then anything could happen.
 

Jean_Jacket41

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Had the league not given out loser points, they wouldn't be close to the Bruins in the standing though.

There no such things as a loser point. These are not real loss.

There is a false winning point tough awarded to teams ''winning'' the gimmick...

Toronto is 1-8 in the Mickey Mouse shoutout. A chance cause that's 8pts they left on the table losing the gimmick.

Had they been 5-4 instead of 1-8, they would be tied with the Bruins with two games in hands.

These OTL points aren't a good thing for these teams. It's a bad thing. They could have gotten so many more points.
 

Jean_Jacket41

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With Cassidy:

9-3-0

Only 1 bad game against Ott. Bruins totally dominated the Rangers and were minutes from OT against Ana.

45 GF
26 GA

15 games to go.

4pts over Tor.
7pts over TB and Flo.

The tie-breaker over all of them.

Driver seat in total control.
 

Lobster57

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With Cassidy:

9-3-0

Only 1 bad game against Ott. Bruins totally dominated the Rangers and were minutes from OT against Ana.

45 GF
26 GA

15 games to go.

4pts over Tor.
7pts over TB and Flo.

The tie-breaker over all of them.

Driver seat in total control.

Time for the wheels to fall off.
 

Glove Malfunction

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Had the league not given out loser points, they wouldn't be close to the Bruins in the standing though.

This shows a gross misunderstanding of the history of the NHL points system works. The league has been giving out "loser points" as a single point to each team for a tie, for decades now. What has changed is the NHL giving out an extra point for winning in OT/SO. The "loser point" has always been a part of the points structure, you only used to see them under the head of "T" in the standings. Toronto would be just about as close under the old system, but would just have a **** ton of ties on their record.
 

Mpasta

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This shows a gross misunderstanding of the history of the NHL points system works. The league has been giving out "loser points" as a single point to each team for a tie, for decades now. What has changed is the NHL giving out an extra point for winning in OT/SO. The "loser point" has always been a part of the points structure, you only used to see them under the head of "T" in the standings. Toronto would be just about as close under the old system, but would just have a **** ton of ties on their record.

You people are taking my comment a little too serious. I was more pointing out the facts that we shouldn't use "what ifs".
 

Glove Malfunction

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You people are taking my comment a little too serious. I was more pointing out the facts that we shouldn't use "what ifs".

If that's what you were trying to say, then say that. And don't come back after saying one thing and try to say you were really saying something different. And especially don't complain about people taking your words at face value.
 

Dellstrom

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Tough two game stretch before last night, but they've been playing incredible. Play anywhere near this level and they'll make it no problem... We have a lot of division games, all of them must-wins.
 

Alberta_OReilly_Fan

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Had the league not given out loser points, they wouldn't be close to the Bruins in the standing though.

its just frustrating when fans complain about things without understanding what they cimplain about

the other night craig button goes on a rant complaining how pittsbugh and washington are the 2 best teams and will meet before the finals.

couple years ago he probably complained about La and chicago

fans are like this... complain complain complain.

i remember when it was 1 vrs 16... fans complained then too... there was a balanced schedule. fans complained i dont want games against pittsburgh or washington or chicago or LA those teams suck. give me games vrs calgary and winnipeg

we want divisional rivals...

but now fans want to complain because washington and pittsburg will meet

THERE IS NO PERFECT SYSTEM but the system is equal to all teams.

will the 'loser' point hurt us this year? will it help us next year? will washington get their path blocked this year? will next year be better when minnesota and edmonton are in the other conference?

did the offside call go against us next game or for us?

fan complaints carry more weight if they scream even when its their home team getting the bump. if the nhl ever went to a 3 point system i can already hear the complaints if it cost the home team the playoffs
 

DKH

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Shouldn't it say Bruins have 23.4 % chance of missing playoffs
 

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its just frustrating when fans complain about things without understanding what they cimplain about

the other night craig button goes on a rant complaining how pittsbugh and washington are the 2 best teams and will meet before the finals.

couple years ago he probably complained about La and chicago

fans are like this... complain complain complain.

i remember when it was 1 vrs 16... fans complained then too... there was a balanced schedule. fans complained i dont want games against pittsburgh or washington or chicago or LA those teams suck. give me games vrs calgary and winnipeg

we want divisional rivals...

but now fans want to complain because washington and pittsburg will meet

THERE IS NO PERFECT SYSTEM but the system is equal to all teams.

will the 'loser' point hurt us this year? will it help us next year? will washington get their path blocked this year? will next year be better when minnesota and edmonton are in the other conference?

did the offside call go against us next game or for us?

fan complaints carry more weight if they scream even when its their home team getting the bump. if the nhl ever went to a 3 point system i can already hear the complaints if it cost the home team the playoffs

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Very nice post. One of the best I 've read hear.... now let's complain;)
 

Tampbear

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its just frustrating when fans complain about things without understanding what they cimplain about

the other night craig button goes on a rant complaining how pittsbugh and washington are the 2 best teams and will meet before the finals.

couple years ago he probably complained about La and chicago

fans are like this... complain complain complain.

i remember when it was 1 vrs 16... fans complained then too... there was a balanced schedule. fans complained i dont want games against pittsburgh or washington or chicago or LA those teams suck. give me games vrs calgary and winnipeg

we want divisional rivals...

but now fans want to complain because washington and pittsburg will meet

THERE IS NO PERFECT SYSTEM but the system is equal to all teams.

will the 'loser' point hurt us this year? will it help us next year? will washington get their path blocked this year? will next year be better when minnesota and edmonton are in the other conference?

did the offside call go against us next game or for us?

fan complaints carry more weight if they scream even when its their home team getting the bump. if the nhl ever went to a 3 point system i can already hear the complaints if it cost the home team the playoffs

I don't care about the playoff format, but a 3 point system would be more fair than the current one which gives teams incentive to head to overtime. Everyone gets atleast one point and the winner gets the same they would in regulation. A 3 point system would weight things more appropriately and teams that don't require the extra time games to win would be rewarded. This system would better rank the good from bad. The standings would probably look similar in order but with more separation between teams, which makes the end of the season less interesting, but is more fair.
 

BsEuphoria

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I don't care about the playoff format, but a 3 point system would be more fair than the current one which gives teams incentive to head to overtime. Everyone gets atleast one point and the winner gets the same they would in regulation. A 3 point system would weight things more appropriately and teams that don't require the extra time games to win would be rewarded. This system would better rank the good from bad. The standings would probably look similar in order but with more separation between teams, which makes the end of the season less interesting, but is more fair.

I'm all for it to, but no way the NHL does it just because of bolded. NHL loves the parity, even if it benefits the teams that can turtle their way to OT better then others.
 

Alberta_OReilly_Fan

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I'm all for it to, but no way the NHL does it just because of bolded. NHL loves the parity, even if it benefits the teams that can turtle their way to OT better then others.

alot of times a team is staging a great comeback and in the dying seconds scores to force overtime.

or a team simply is hapless protecting their lead... blowing it...

i guess bruin fans for years accussed Claude of sitting on close games

fans complain this system benefits bad teams but there is NO EVIDENCE OF THIS. ive done studies trying to find a pattern without any luck. ive never seen anyone draw any conclusive proof who benefits from 'loser points'

its random

the winner point in theory should more often get won by the better team... but again i cant prove it

some teams are better at 3 on 3... some are better in shootout...

but is this just luck? will teams be better year after year after year? i see no proof

does it make it harder for a team to catchup when teams ahead in standings get 3 points? remember you too might get 3 points. maybe you get more... maybe it helps you catch up... maybe

but if the argument is against bad teams... then why make it easier for them to catch up?

this entire argument boils down to complaint for the sake of complaint. there is no proof this system brnefits bad teams. an equal case can be made it benefits good teams

but ultimately its random. some teams will benefit.

the system was put in because everyone complained about ties. now there are no ties but there are still complaints. if we went to a 3 point system there will still be complaints
 

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alot of times a team is staging a great comeback and in the dying seconds scores to force overtime.

or a team simply is hapless protecting their lead... blowing it...

i guess bruin fans for years accussed Claude of sitting on close games

fans complain this system benefits bad teams but there is NO EVIDENCE OF THIS. ive done studies trying to find a pattern without any luck. ive never seen anyone draw any conclusive proof who benefits from 'loser points'

its random

the winner point in theory should more often get won by the better team... but again i cant prove it

some teams are better at 3 on 3... some are better in shootout...

but is this just luck? will teams be better year after year after year? i see no proof

does it make it harder for a team to catchup when teams ahead in standings get 3 points? remember you too might get 3 points. maybe you get more... maybe it helps you catch up... maybe

but if the argument is against bad teams... then why make it easier for them to catch up?

this entire argument boils down to complaint for the sake of complaint. there is no proof this system brnefits bad teams. an equal case can be made it benefits good teams

but ultimately its random. some teams will benefit.

the system was put in because everyone complained about ties. now there are no ties but there are still complaints. if we went to a 3 point system there will still be complaints

With all due respect to you and the effort you've put into your argument, you're entirely wide of the point.
 

Tampbear

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alot of times a team is staging a great comeback and in the dying seconds scores to force overtime.

or a team simply is hapless protecting their lead... blowing it...

i guess bruin fans for years accussed Claude of sitting on close games

fans complain this system benefits bad teams but there is NO EVIDENCE OF THIS. ive done studies trying to find a pattern without any luck. ive never seen anyone draw any conclusive proof who benefits from 'loser points'

its random

the winner point in theory should more often get won by the better team... but again i cant prove it

some teams are better at 3 on 3... some are better in shootout...

but is this just luck? will teams be better year after year after year? i see no proof

does it make it harder for a team to catchup when teams ahead in standings get 3 points? remember you too might get 3 points. maybe you get more... maybe it helps you catch up... maybe

but if the argument is against bad teams... then why make it easier for them to catch up?

this entire argument boils down to complaint for the sake of complaint. there is no proof this system brnefits bad teams. an equal case can be made it benefits good teams

but ultimately its random. some teams will benefit.

the system was put in because everyone complained about ties. now there are no ties but there are still complaints. if we went to a 3 point system there will still be complaints

The issue is awarding a win in a shootout or a 3 on 3 the same as a regulation win. It is more of a skills competition and doesn't necessarily reflect the ability of the team to win a game. For this reason the 3 point system is more fair. It wouldn't make for as interesting an end to the season so we continue with the system we have, but the system was chosen not because it was fair but because it will create tight finishes to the season.
 

BsEuphoria

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Another bad night for us with everyone that matters winning. At least the Habs got blown out. Really expected Minny to hand it to the Bolts to...
 
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