World Cup: 2016 World Cup — Team Sweden Part II

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I just realized that ulvvf is the same guy who wrote that "Klingberg is MUCH better than Hedman" on Flashback. He must be related to Klingberg or something.
 
Hold on right there, OEL is one of the premier D in the league. Klingberg is great and all, but he is not on OELs level. Steen is another premier hockeyplayer, not sure how you think he is overrated. He didnt have his best showing in the olympics but to be fair, not many did. Lots of players contributed (including Steen) and no one was dominating really.

And Klingberg is not? He is even better. OEL has a lot to prove in the national shirt, and even if he has looked better in this games than he did in WHC and olympics so far, it still far away from the same bossy OEL i am use to see in NHL. While Klingberg was dominating like crazy in whc and have had a better year than OEL in NHL. Replacing OEL with Klingberg would be a improvment.

But Steen has never been as good in NHL, not even close to, as he was when the olympics played, but still he just felt like a complementary player there, no difference maker at all. I do not know what people base on that he would be a impact player?

Karlsson was dominating, him and Bäckström was the main reason why we did make it to final. Without them we would not have reach semifinal. The most of the rest including steen felt very medicore.
 
And Klingberg is not? He is even better. OEL has a lot to prove in the national shirt, and even if he has looked better in this games than he did in WHC and olympics so far, it still far away from the same bossy OEL i am use to see in NHL. While Klingberg was dominating like crazy in whc and have had a better year than OEL in NHL. Replacing OEL with Klingberg would be a improvment.

But Steen has never been as good in NHL, not even close to, as he was when the olympics played, but still he just felt like a complementary player there, no difference maker at all. I do not know what people base on that he would be a impact player?

Karlsson was dominating, him and Bäckström was the main reason why we did make it to final. Without them we would not have reach semifinal. The most of the rest including steen felt very medicore.

Yeah...no.
 
Grönborg doing the opposite what i want. Just like wjc so i am not surprised.

Not me. If it keeps him healthy and weakens his contract negotiation standing then I'm all for him not playing another game in this tournament.

But that's my selfish reason :p
 
Ekholm simply outplayed him against Finland.

I don't really agree I thought that once Lindholm and Karlsson found their groove it looked much smoother than it ever did with Ekholm. While Ekholm is a good defender I don't think he has the hockey-sense to work as well with Karlsson as Lindholm did towards the end of the game
 
But Steen has never been as good in NHL, not even close to, as he was when the olympics played, but still he just felt like a complementary player there, no difference maker at all. I do not know what people base on that he would be a impact player?

You can't have watched many Blues games. Among Swedish forwards this year Steen was only behind Forsberg and Bäckström in P/GP while finishing 15th in Selke voting. He would definitely be one of our most important players.
 
Small sample size. In nhl lindholm > ekholm

Last season Ekholm was probably just as good as Lindholm and he pretty much always plays great on the national team.

It's a short tournament, playing well is key and Lindholm didnt play that well when he had the chance to do so.
 
I don't really agree I thought that once Lindholm and Karlsson found their groove it looked much smoother than it ever did with Ekholm. While Ekholm is a good defender I don't think he has the hockey-sense to work as well with Karlsson as Lindholm did towards the end of the game
Agree. Karlsson had better game with lindholm than ekholm.
 
Last season Ekholm was probably just as good as Lindholm and he pretty much always plays great on the national team.

It's a short tournament, playing well is key and Lindholm didnt play that well when he had the chance to do so.
As i said. Karlsson looked better with lindholm.

Besides ekholm was bad in 0-6 loss against canada
 
But Steen has never been as good in NHL, not even close to, as he was when the olympics played, but still he just felt like a complementary player there, no difference maker at all. I do not know what people base on that he would be a impact player?

You can't be serious.

Alex Steen is a top-10 LW in the NHL. Excells in every situation. Plays the point on the PP etc. Him going down with an injury was a huge loss for team Sweden.


And btw, OEL is a much better all around defenceman than Klingberg.
 
I posted some D-man adv.stats comparision graph in this thread earlier. It support those who say that Klinberg is more like Karlsson but without finish. Not that bad but certainly not that good either for an offensive D-man.
 
I wish we had an exciting young player to cheer for in sweden like nylander. But there is none. Berglund was as useless as i thought.
 
It's been painfully obvious that Bäckström and Forsberg doesn't work. Too late now to try something different before the tournament starts.

Sedins and Loui are doing all our offense right now.
 
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It's been so obvious Bäckström and Forsberg doesn't work. Too late now to try something different before the tournament starts.

Sedins and Loui are doing all our offense right now.
And grönborg never changes his lines no matter how bad they are.
 
And grönborg never changes his lines no matter how bad they are.

Bäckström needs someone who's able to work the cycle down low. That line just can't sustain pressure in the offensive zone, Forsberg and Hörnqvist just keeps losing the puck. I'd try Bäckström with two of Söderberg, Silfverberg and Landeskog, who I think should have bigger roles on this team. Then put Forsberg and Hörnqvist on a line with Backlund/Berglund as their center.
 
And grönborg never changes his lines no matter how bad they are.

All swedish coaches seem to have this problem honestly. Why don't we start looking elsewhere at some point. Especially on tournies on small ice, we should hire a canadian or american coach.
 
All swedish coaches seem to have this problem honestly. Why don't we start looking elsewhere at some point. Especially on tournies on small ice, we should hire a canadian or american coach.

I dont get how you can be called a coach if you dont even juggle the lines.

Best coach we ever had was conny evensson.
 
Yeah...no.

Often you are a good poster, but sometimes your level is very low, this is one of them. If you are a intelligent person you argue against in a good maner if you do not agree with the opinion. But maybe I expect to much from a hockey forum. The general level here is very low.

If you do not think Klingberg was many levels above OEL in the big games in whc, I would love to go through the game shift by shift with you. Because it was huge different between them 2 there.

No matter if you go by personal stats or team success, Klingberg have had a better year than OEL in NHL. He has more points, much better +/-, plus he has made Dallas going from a non playoff team to a top team. So how have he has not have a better year? The only thing OEL has on Klingberg is goalscoring.
 
You can't be serious.

Alex Steen is a top-10 LW in the NHL. Excells in every situation. Plays the point on the PP etc. Him going down with an injury was a huge loss for team Sweden.


And btw, OEL is a much better all around defenceman than Klingberg.

Steen is a player that is good in everything, but not great at anything. We already have to many of those kinds of player.

Why would he be a loss now when he was on the verge to be bad in olympics and then he was in much better form?

I do not agree, the only aspect OEL is better is goalscoring.
 
A real lackluster performance. I think the offence can do better when the real games begin, but its worrying that Sweden let in so many goals. That have to stop or it'll be a short tournament.
 
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