WC: 2016 Team Canada

[Bear12Good]

Here's what I believe could be TC's roster at the World Championships this May: (rosters made according to NHL standings ATM + with consideration to what players were/weren't named to World Cup teams)

(Price), Mason, Bernier

Giordano - Brodie
Rielly - Subban
Ceci - Myers
D.Hamilton

I think the TOP4 is a lock and all will go. Cody Ceci and D.Hamilton (and maybe D.Nurse) are most likely in the bubble for NAU24 team, so I can see HC giving them a shot here to show themselves. I'm not sure about Hamhuis, given his situation in VAN. Murray may be on the team if someone is injured. He already made the U24 team and there are probably better option available, so I left him out for now.


Hall - Giroux - Duchene
O'Reilly - McDavid - MacKinnon
Monahan - Nugent-Hopkins - Stone
Jenner - Scheifele - Gallagher

The top-nine is a lock IMO and I believe they will all go to this tournament. Yes, very optimistic, but I have no reason to believe otherwise. I don't know what the last 4 players would be, but from the same reason as naming Ceci and D.Hamilton to my team, I think Scheifele and especially Jenner have a chance to make it. Gallagher imo deserves a spot, even if just as a 13 forward; to show what he can do internationally. And so does Brayden Schenn, who's having a great season and could be ideal 4th-line player.

I left out forwards Couturier, Eberle, Simmonds, Little, Kadri, Domi, Bennett, Ennis, Hoffman, Cammalleri, J.Staal, Henrique, and others, because 1) the roster is just too deep and 2) they are not really competing for their respective World Cup teams imo.

Overall, I'm absolutely confident that at least 15 players out of those 22 I named into my team will actually be on the official roster.

With such a team can fail

It is necessary to take the stars of the world of hockey rather than youngsters

 

[therealdeal]

Canada is stacked as always, unfair man

The tournament will be awesome. No bad teams, all best players, small ice etc.

Of topic, but I just cant understand people who say that this tournament is a joke and the Olympics is the only real best on best tournament, REALLY!?!?!? Are you a hockey fan or what!! Not once has there been a more competitive tournament in hockey, not once. Do people really like watching Russia wreck Italy 11-1 more than the epicness that this tournament will provide?

Just remember though, last year Canada had to ask 72 players in order to fill their 24 (or maybe 23) man roster. There are always a LOT of turndowns. You never know what type of team you're going to get.

 

[tade]

Just remember though, last year Canada had to ask 72 players in order to fill their 24 (or maybe 23) man roster. There are always a LOT of turndowns. You never know what type of team you're going to get.

Really? What's the source for this?

With such a team can fail

It is necessary to take the stars of the world of hockey rather than youngsters

Do you even know Canadian players besides obvious ones like Crosby or Stamkos? Because it doesn't seem so. That would be damn good team, and easily the best team on the tournament, just like last year.

 

[CaptainBenn]

agreed, rumblings always about being a problem in the room, never been a big game player, no thanks, not on Team Canada anyways..


outside of Montreal, I think most would agree...Pietrangelo all day over Subban....

he is a big game player... hes been the most useful canadiens player this year with price absence
he has more points than all the habs forward
hes playing on one of the most ****** team in the league and hes still impressive

you guys are so biased
what is it about subban?
if you put doughty in montreal with how therrien treats his player and bench them all the time or even with the media pressure and fans (the same fans that booed Price in the preseason!) Im not even sure he would perform like Subban
hes playing in one of the most difficult market in the league but still succeeding
hes under media scrunity, coach scrunity but still performs
hes the guy you trust if that game meant your life, because you know he will give his best

yes hes creative and takes risks, but thats because he wants his ****y team to win and no one is doing anything on that team except him, he gotta do something, the fans pay to watch an entertaining team not a ****y team with no one doing anything
his spinoramas? dude thats why people pay and go watch hockey
you really think he would play risky playing with the best players in the world? GIVE ME A BREAK

now you say hes not a big game man, thats the most ridiculous thing Ive read, even as a ROOOOOOOOOKIE his first game ever in the playoffs he was the most performant player
he is the man when there is lot of pressure you want him on the ice because he will not disappoint and if he makes a mistake he finds a way to correct it




Now tell me again, why why why the man whos playing on one of the worst team in the league with no support, in the most difficult city to play in (pressure every single second), this year he has more points than any forward on his team and is the most used player, tell me why he isnt worthy of Team Canada when hes clearly one of the best dman in Canada?

 

[CaptainBenn]

and you talk about problems in the room
oh so Im sure you dont want crosby on that team
I heard some rumblings about problems in the room (hello Malkin)

You see how ridiculous you sound?

 

[snowrunner*]

Not denying Subban is not a great player...Canada has many of them, just don't see him being in the top 8 defenseman available for Canada

Obviously Babcock and Ken Holland feel the same way, as fans we always over rate our own players, I get it, it's natural

 

[CaptainBenn]

Not denying Subban is not a great player...Canada has many of them, just don't see him being in the top 8 defenseman available for Canada

Obviously Babcock and Ken Holland feel the same way, as fans we always over rate our own players, I get it, it's natural

you said any GM would pick pietrangelo over subban, its not true

 

[417]

What is the general consensus about PK? I am horribly biasd but to me it makes sense for him not to be on Team Canada. Sure PK can get points but Canada has a ton of skilled forwards for that. What Canada needs on defense are responsible and dependable players and PK is not that. Without question.

But as I said I am horribly biased, I really don't want PK on Team Canada.

PK isn't responsible defensively?

Is that why he leads the Habs in TOI?

plays against every teams top line?

Is among the best possession players on D in the league?

is one of the best penalty kill dmen in the league?

There's a HUGE misconception about the type of player Subban is, which isn't all that surprising, people prefer to believe fabricated perceptions about him for whatever reason.

If you think Subban isnt responsible or dependable, then you just don't watch hockey.

What a joke

 

[417]

Not denying Subban is not a great player...Canada has many of them, just don't see him being in the top 8 defenseman available for Canada

Obviously Babcock and Ken Holland feel the same way, as fans we always over rate our own players, I get it, it's natural

Judging on the opinions of Subban in this thread....

It can be argued that he's actually underrated

Not responsible or dependable?

Man....the guy just can't get any respect. The bar is always set higher for him, the standards are always higher

It's not enough that's he's one of the most productive Dmen in the NHL the last 4 years, not enough that he's one of the very top 2 way Dmen in the league, not enough that he won a Norris and was nominated for another...it's just never going to be enough lol the goalposts will just continue to move

 

[xxxx]

Not denying Subban is not a great player...Canada has many of them, just don't see him being in the top 8 defenseman available for Canada

Obviously Babcock and Ken Holland feel the same way, as fans we always over rate our own players, I get it, it's natural

Canada has many great players, and could go to this tournament without Toews, Crosby, Doughty, Keith, and Seguin and it wouldn't change a thing. See, we left Stamkos, St.Louis, B.Richards, Lecavalier, Smyth, Green, Phaneuf, Bouwmeester, and others off in 2010. Stamkos, B.Richards, and St.Louis had all over 90 points that year and all were in TOP10 scoring. Subban not making this team would be very debatable, but still understandable given the enormous talent we have. Still, I would be quite surprised if he didn't make the team at the end.

 

[FrankMTL]

For anybody with any lingering hope that Price will play in the IIHF World Championships, he just confirmed that he won't be there.

 

[Bear12Good]

For anybody with any lingering hope that Price will play in the IIHF World Championships, he just confirmed that he won't be there.

a source? site?

 

[1Gold Standard]

For anybody with any lingering hope that Price will play in the IIHF World Championships, he just confirmed that he won't be there.

If uninjured and available and wanted to, then of course he has the open invitation...but he gets to make the call and not Hockey Canada sending out an invite for him to either accept or reject. Price never ever ever has to play in that tournament. For other mere mortal players, it behooves them to take call on April 10 when Hockey Canada comes calling.

 

[Habsawce]

a source? site?

He did an interview in MTL today. He said that he won't be going because his wife is due to give birth in April.

 

[xxxx]

For anybody with any lingering hope that Price will play in the IIHF World Championships, he just confirmed that he won't be there.

That's fine it would help the team, but he doesn't need to prove anything, so what. and yes, sometimes personal life is more important, especially when having a child on the way that's awesome for him.

 

[Grandrift145]

Weber being picked over Subban is rediculous

Subban is a lot better than webber

 

[Orfieus]

PK isn't responsible defensively?

Is that why he leads the Habs in TOI?

plays against every teams top line?

Is among the best possession players on D in the league?

is one of the best penalty kill dmen in the league?

There's a HUGE misconception about the type of player Subban is, which isn't all that surprising, people prefer to believe fabricated perceptions about him for whatever reason.

If you think Subban isnt responsible or dependable, then you just don't watch hockey.

What a joke

Weber being picked over Subban is rediculous

Subban is a lot better than webber

lol

Did you just see the goal PK gave up to LA? Pretty much sums up why PK shouldn't be on Team Canada, he isn't dependable.

 

[chaosrevolver]

lol

Did you just see the goal PK gave up to LA? Pretty much sums up why PK shouldn't be on Team Canada, he isn't dependable.

Guess Doughty isn't dependable either. It happens. He also had a goal, an assist and carried the team the whole night.

 

[xxreact9]

Corey Perry with 8 points in 3 games since being left off team Canada. Someone is motivated. Thanks!!

 

[1Gold Standard]

Corey Perry with 8 points in 3 games since being left off team Canada. Someone is motivated. Thanks!!

He wasn't left off Team Canada, only 16 players were named to a 23 man roster. Tune in sometime in early to mid June for the remaining players to be named. And those 16 players were only named on Wednesday, so you're telling us that between Wednesday afternoon and Thursday evening Perry played 3 games? Wow. I know the NHL schedule is compacted, but I had no idea to this extent. Somebody call the NHLPA, these guys are getting abused. Where do people come up with this stuff?

And this is the World Championship roster thread, not the World Cup thread. you are aware of that, right?

 

[skolgoar]

Guess Doughty isn't dependable either. It happens. He also had a goal, an assist and carried the team the whole night.

It's nice that you had to go back a year to find that mistake. Regehr retired last year and hasn't played at all this year ...

 

[Bourne Endeavor]

lol

Did you just see the goal PK gave up to LA? Pretty much sums up why PK shouldn't be on Team Canada, he isn't dependable.

By that logic, Weber shouldn't have been at the Olympics after Kesler humiliated him.

It's nice that you had to go back a year to find that mistake. Regehr retired last year and hasn't played at all this year ...

This is just moving the goal posters. Great players make risky plays. Karlsson is an equally high risk, high reward defenseman. If he were Canadian, you would be moronic not to want him on your roster.

 

[Orfieus]

Guess Doughty isn't dependable either. It happens. He also had a goal, an assist and carried the team the whole night.

By that logic, Weber shouldn't have been at the Olympics after Kesler humiliated him.



This is just moving the goal posters. Great players make risky plays. Karlsson is an equally high risk, high reward defenseman. If he were Canadian, you would be moronic not to want him on your roster.

That is just one example of many for PK. Sure you can go back years to find mistakes but when it happens on a consistent basis that is when there is a issue.

PK had the puck with 1min left in the game with no goalie in net and instead of making a smart play he tries to go around a LA player (i honestly forget who) and gets stripped of the puck and almost causes a empty net goal. That is PK, you get a high scoring, high risk defenceman and Team Canada doesn't need that.

 

[therealdeal]

Really? What's the source for this?



Do you even know Canadian players besides obvious ones like Crosby or Stamkos? Because it doesn't seem so. That would be damn good team, and easily the best team on the tournament, just like last year.

I recall reading or seeing it in an interview last year after we won, can't recall the source.

 

[tade]

I recall reading or seeing it in an interview last year after we won, can't recall the source.

Alright, no problem, thanks. It is just really interesting number. I have never heard about this information before.