OT: 2016 Red Sox/MLB Regular Season V - "And down the stretch they come!"

[CharasLazyWrister]

As much of a "disgrace" as Tebow jerseys flying off the shelves appears, it's just a joke at this point.

No one is buying a Tebow New York Mets jersey who actually "believes" in his ability. The whole things is a sideshow at this point, and stupid as it may be, I could see why some would find it worthwhile to buy a baseball jersey with his name foolishly written on the back over some everyday, normal player.

 

[Johnnyduke]

People say to me they say, "EverettMike, do you ever get tired of being right?"

And I say I say, "Nope. Just like I don't get tired of being handsome."

What are you right about here?

 

[Johnnyduke]

And what did machado do?

 

[Mr Cartmenez]

At this point it's gotta be Porcellos award to lose. He's got the advanced stats AND traditional wins. I don't hold wins against a pitcher, but you don't win 21 by accident. What a year he is having. I thought he was going to rebound from last year obviously, but I never thought he could dominate like that.

Great game! This win takes some pressure off the guys. It's enough to stay in 1st place after the O's series, even if they take the next 3. But they should just take care of business and win 2 more...that would be the dagger for Baltimore.

 

[CharasLazyWrister]

And what did machado do?

A pitch got away from Porcello when he had a perfect game going and it hit Machado. Machado felt the need to hover at the plate, stare down Porcello, and talk **** going up the first base line.

He then stared him down again after he crossed the plate with one of the two Orioles' runs.

He then did nothing for the rest of the night and the Red Sox scored three runs the inning after his shenanigans.

I'd say "maybe he learned to keep his mouth shut", but if that was going to happen, he would have learned that lessons many times ago where he pulled this exact same stuff. Guy is a straight up punk. And a dick.

 

[Johnnyduke]

Porcello has been feisty this year so i hope he gave it right back to him

 

[KesselBuiltMyHotrod]

 

[PB37]

A pitch got away from Porcello when he had a perfect game going and it hit Machado. Machado felt the need to hover at the plate, stare down Porcello, and talk **** going up the first base line.

He then stared him down again after he crossed the plate with one of the two Orioles' runs.

He then did nothing for the rest of the night and the Red Sox scored three runs the inning after his shenanigans.

I'd say "maybe he learned to keep his mouth shut", but if that was going to happen, he would have learned that lessons many times ago where he pulled this exact same stuff. Guy is a straight up punk. And a dick.

So the guy doesn't like getting hit? Cmon, this is all of a big stretch. I've seen Ortiz pull this act before. We see pitchers like Porcello and Pedro yell at guys, point at their heads and we call them feisty. They're in the big leagues and they all have type A personalities; they're gonna get pissed off every now and then. I'd love to see Machado on the Red Sox.

 

[Johnnyduke]

Man i love this version of porcello

 

[DKH]

I was 8 in 1967 and followed the Red Sox every game. Jim Lonborg won the Cy Young and 22 games. He was tall, threw right, handsome, and led the league in hit batsman. He was a good pitcher going into the season but nothing special but basically came out of nowhere. Rick Porcello is replicating this.

Porcello is Lonborg.

 

[Fenway]

The Magic Number is

 

[CharasLazyWrister]

So the guy doesn't like getting hit? Cmon, this is all of a big stretch. I've seen Ortiz pull this act before. We see pitchers like Porcello and Pedro yell at guys, point at their heads and we call them feisty. They're in the big leagues and they all have type A personalities; they're gonna get pissed off every now and then. I'd love to see Machado on the Red Sox.

Take note of what Ortiz hit when HE got hit by a pitch tonight. He didn't do anything. I am sure Ortiz has gotten pissed off before when there is an indication that it could be intentional. Actually, yes, I've seen it. Machado got hit with a pitch and Porcello (though only through four innings) was pitching a perfect game. I've never seen a guy act like that after getting hit so obviously unintentionally. And yes, if one guy was going to do it, there's no surprise it was Machado.

I'm not trying to insult, but if given the circumstances, you think that what I am saying is a "big stretch", it sounds like you just don't watch much baseball.

 

[Marley]

So the guy doesn't like getting hit? Cmon, this is all of a big stretch. I've seen Ortiz pull this act before. We see pitchers like Porcello and Pedro yell at guys, point at their heads and we call them feisty. They're in the big leagues and they all have type A personalities; they're gonna get pissed off every now and then. I'd love to see Machado on the Red Sox.

I like Machado but that crap tonight was bush-league. I think he was trying to energize his team by acting like it was intentional but everyone knew it was just a bad pitch.

 

[PB37]

Take note of what Ortiz hit when HE got hit by a pitch tonight. He didn't do anything. I am sure Ortiz has gotten pissed off before when there is an indication that it could be intentional. Actually, yes, I've seen it. Machado got hit with a pitch and Porcello (though only through four innings) was pitching a perfect game. I've never seen a guy act like that after getting hit so obviously unintentionally. And yes, if one guy was going to do it, there's no surprise it was Machado.

I'm not trying to insult, but if given the circumstances, you think that what I am saying is a "big stretch", it sounds like you just don't watch much baseball.

I've been watching baseball for 30 years. Getting pissed off after being hit by a pitch and jawing with a pitcher isn't in the realm of being a dick or punk. Players act out all the time, especially so late in the year with standings on the line. We've all seen Ortiz smash a phone with his bat dangerously close to teammates.

If you seen a batter get pissed off after getting hit by a pitch that was unintentional and jawing at the pitcher afterwards, then I would venture to say that it would be you that hasn't watched much of baseball. This kind of **** happens all the time.

 

[BostonBob]

A pitch got away from Porcello when he had a perfect game going and it hit Machado. Machado felt the need to hover at the plate, stare down Porcello, and talk **** going up the first base line.

That might be the dumbest reaction by a hitter since Gerald Williams went after Pedro back in 2000:

 

[BostonBob]

If you seen a batter get pissed off after getting hit by a pitch that was unintentional and jawing at the pitcher afterwards, then I would venture to say that it would be you that hasn't watched much of baseball. This kind of **** happens all the time.

But not when a guy has a perfect game going.

 

[KesselBuiltMyHotrod]

Pedro was the best.

 

[CharasLazyWrister]

I've been watching baseball for 30 years. Getting pissed off after being hit by a pitch and jawing with a pitcher isn't in the realm of being a dick or punk. Players act out all the time, especially so late in the year with standings on the line. We've all seen Ortiz smash a phone with his bat dangerously close to teammates.

If you seen a batter get pissed off after getting hit by a pitch that was unintentional and jawing at the pitcher afterwards, then I would venture to say that it would be you that hasn't watched much of baseball. This kind of **** happens all the time.

I don't know if you've just got a contrarian thing going or what. But, you're purposely generalizing and deflecting from the point I'm trying to make in some desperate attempt to appear right.

I never said players don't act out. I never said Ortiz didn't act out. As a matter of fact, I said he had. WHAT I DID SAY was that Machado talked **** to a pitcher and gave him the eye after he got hit by an accidental 86 mph pitch while the guy had a perfect game going. You keep talking about how "guys act out" as if that has anything to do with my argument.

As I also said, Ortiz got hit with a pitch (seemingly by accident) after Machado got hit. What did he do? Walked to first base. Like pretty much any guy would do in that situation. That pitch that hit Ortiz was 100000x more likely to be intentional than the one that hit Manny Machado.

If your entire argument is going to be based around arguing against points that I am not even making, don't bother responding. If you think what Machado did is "cool", okay that is your opinion, but don't be as foolish to turn this into a "Ortiz acts out all the time" argument. That is so far from any point I am trying to make. If you ever read my posts on this board pertaining to the Bruins, or any other team I am a fan of, you'll see I am far from the "fanboy" you seem to want to make me out to be by bringing up Ortiz hitting a telephone (again...has nothing to do with what we're talking about).

 

[CharasLazyWrister]

That might be the dumbest reaction by a hitter since Gerald Williams went after Pedro back in 2000:

As dumb as it was, at least you could say Pedro had a "reputation".

Still...first ****ing batter of the game...

 

[bruins309]

David Ortiz: never seen a called strike he didn't complain about for 20 minutes afterward.

I'm kind of embarrassed as an O's fan that they pitch to Betts the way they do. Here's an idea: knock him down, like what used to be done. If you hit him, whatever.

 

[jgatie]

Pedro was the best.

5'9" and a buck fifty-five soaking wet in his cleats* and he stood right there and waited for him to charge the mound. He had the biggest balls in baseball.

I love the way Williams suddenly lost his anger when Big Jim Ed got ahold of him.


* Wiki has him at 5'11" and 195! LOL! He's not even 195 in his current post-athletic fat days!

 

[GloryDaze4877]

So the guy doesn't like getting hit? Cmon, this is all of a big stretch. I've seen Ortiz pull this act before. We see pitchers like Porcello and Pedro yell at guys, point at their heads and we call them feisty. They're in the big leagues and they all have type A personalities; they're gonna get pissed off every now and then. I'd love to see Machado on the Red Sox.

Of course getting hit isn't fun, and if it was just this one time (even occasionally), I would give Machado the benefit of the doubt, but every time I turn on SportsCenter or MLB, I seem to see him pulling this crap, many times when it's pretty obvious it wasn't intentional.

David Ortiz: never seen a called strike he didn't complain about for 20 minutes afterward.

I'm kind of embarrassed as an O's fan that they pitch to Betts the way they do. Here's an idea: knock him down, like what used to be done. If you hit him, whatever.

Personally, I dislike it when Ortiz argues everything.

As far as Betts goes, you want to knock him down, or hit him, because your manager is too ******* stupid to stop trying to throw inside fastballs by him? Good plan

 

[DKH]

It's April 1 and you get a peak at September 20 stats

Rate the shock factor in order from this list (not my order btw)

Curious what you think

Pedroia
Porcello
Ortiz
Ramirez
JBJ
Betts

 

[jgatie]

It's April 1 and you get a peak at September 20 stats

Rate the shock factor in order from this list (not my order btw)

Curious what you think

Pedroia
Porcello
Ortiz
Ramirez
JBJ
Betts

From most shocking to the least:

1) Porcello - never thought he'd be an ace, never mind a Cy Young candidate
2) Pedroia - Thought he was too banged up and his best was behind him
4) Ramirez - Thought he was disgruntled and overpaid
5) Betz - Who thought he'd be an MVP candidate?
6) JBJ - Not that he's having a bad year, but the others are more shocking
7) Ortiz - Nothing this man does surprises me. If he walked across the Charles in front of a Duck Boat carrying the WS trophy, I'd just go "Oh well, that's Papi for you."

 

[Donnie Shulzhoffer]

It's April 1 and you get a peak at September 20 stats

Rate the shock factor in order from this list (not my order btw)

Curious what you think

Pedroia
Porcello
Ortiz
Ramirez
JBJ
Betts

Porcello
Ramirez
Pedroia
Ortiz
JBJ
Betts